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NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:04 pm

Here's the cup entry list: http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2007/15/data/entry_list.html

Winners this year:

Daytona: Kevin Harvick
California: Matt Kenseth
Las Vegas: Jimmie Johnson
Atlanta: Jimmie Johnson
Bristol: Kyle Busch
Martinsville: Jimmie Johnson
Texas: Jeff Burton
Phoenix: Jeff Gordon
Talladega: Jeff Gordon
Richmond: Jimmie Johnson
Darlington: Jeff Gordon
Lowe's: Casey Mears
Dover: Martin Truex Jr.
Pocono: Jeff Gordon

Previous threads: NASCAR: Pocono 14/36 (by AllegiantAir Jun 8 2007 in Non Aviation) NASCAR: Dover 13/36 (by AllegiantAir May 31 2007 in Non Aviation) NASCAR: Charlotte(Lowe's) 12/36 (by AllegiantAir May 25 2007 in Non Aviation) NASCAR: All-Star Weekend! (by AllegiantAir May 17 2007 in Non Aviation) NASCAR: Darlington 11/36 (by AllegiantAir May 11 2007 in Non Aviation) NASCAR: Richmond 10/36 (by AllegiantAir May 3 2007 in Non Aviation) NASCAR: Talladega 4/07 (by AllegiantAir Apr 28 2007 in Non Aviation)

Kreg

Mods, you can lock the Pocono thread.

P.S. This is just an idea, but what if next race we start something like we guess who gets the pole and who wins the race, and then we keep track of points by how many winners you picked, and how many polesitters you picked? Like 15 points if the driver you picked won, 10 pts if he finished 2-10, 8 pts if he finished 11-20, 6 pts if he finished 21-30, 4 pts if he finished 31-40, and 2 pts if he finished 41-43. And the same thing for poles too, but we'll have two separate standings for points and poles. What do you guys think about it?
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:49 pm

What a surprise! Yeley got the pole! Truex, Mears, and Yeley have been doing good the last few weeks. Hopefully now we can get JJ into victory lane for another first time winner this year.  Smile

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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:20 pm

Yeley got the pole? Who the hell is Yeley? LOL

Anyway, I'll be watching the race in Chicago . . . visiting Mom and my Daughter . . . it's too damn hot here to do anything . . .
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:04 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Yeley got the pole? Who the hell is Yeley?

LOL

I see that Stephen Leicht got his first Busch series win, but the funny thing about that is, if you go to this link, http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/head...cky.busch.results.ap.ap/index.html , it shows his car with two cases of Busch beer on top, but he's only 20 y/o so he can't even drink it! LOL!

Here's the link for the Busch results: http://www.nascar.com/races/bg/2007/16/data/results_unofficial.html

Could someone clear this up for me please?... if you look at the results, it shows Mike Bliss finished 9th in the number 22 Supercuts car. But if you look at the 43rd finisher, you have Carlos Contreras who raced in the number 22 Supercuts car also. How does that work out????
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:40 am

I know I'm a week early for this, but I've heard some rumors about road course ringers that will be racing in Infinion.

#99 P.J. Jones will be taking over for David Reutimann
#49 Klaus Graf will be taking over for Mike Bliss
#55 Terry Labonte will be taking over form Michael Waltrip
#47 Marcos Ambrose will be driving the 47 car
#96 Ron Fellows will be taking over for Tony Raines
#60 Boris Said will be driving the 60 car
#91 Marc Goossens will be driving the 91 car

Possibilities:

Brandon Ash in the 02 car

Scott Pruett in the ? car

Tom Hubert (Bill Davis Racing) in the 23? car

Brian Simo in the ? car
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:51 am

We got 20 to go with Edwards in the lead and Truex on his trail! This is starting to be an exciting race now!

Go Martin!

By the way, does anyone want to give me some feed back on my idea?

Quoting AllegiantAir (Thread starter):
This is just an idea, but what if next race we start something like we guess who gets the pole and who wins the race, and then we keep track of points by how many winners you picked, and how many polesitters you picked? Like 15 points if the driver you picked won, 10 pts if he finished 2-10, 8 pts if he finished 11-20, 6 pts if he finished 21-30, 4 pts if he finished 31-40, and 2 pts if he finished 41-43. And the same thing for poles too, but we'll have two separate standings for points and poles. What do you guys think about it?
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:55 am

Go Carl. Represent Roush. Just anyone but DEI.

New broadcast crew on TNT, but same old commercial rate. Even though it's not too much higher than Fox's, but they take them all under green rather than caution.
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:57 am

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 4):
Scott Pruett in the ? car

If he's not subbing for Stremme in the #40 or Sorenson in the #41, it'll be #39

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 4):
#99 P.J. Jones will be taking over for David Reutimann
#49 Klaus Graf will be taking over for Mike Bliss
#55 Terry Labonte will be taking over form Michael Waltrip
#47 Marcos Ambrose will be driving the 47 car
#96 Ron Fellows will be taking over for Tony Raines
#60 Boris Said will be driving the 60 car
#91 Marc Goossens will be driving the 91 car

Mark Martin may fill in for Jeff Gordon in the #24 if Jeff stays in NC, as he and the Mrs are expecting their daughter any day now.

Jeff can miss the race at Sears Point and will still have at least a 69 point lead heading into New Hampshire in two weeks, and that's assuming Denny Hamlin wins and leads the most laps.

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 4):
Brian Simo in the ? car

I think he's driven the #4 Morgan-McClure car before, so that might be it.
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:07 am

Didn't get to see the race, but ngot 42 text messages out on Lake Michigan from my g/f as the race progressed.

Glad Stewart recovered from his Practice Crash.

Decent run by Edwards.

Interesting the hendricks cars didn't do as well this week. And Johnson ran out of fuel? WTF?
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:02 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 8):
Interesting the hendricks cars didn't do as well this week.

Mears was 4th, Kyle Busch was 6th, and Gordon was 9th, with Gordon and Johnson leading significant laps

That's not exactly awful...

That said, good runs for Truex (2nd), Junior (5th), Mikey Waltrip (10th!!!! HOLY SH*T), and Bill Elliott (11th)

Brian Vickers had another strong run ruined by the fact Jeff Green is a dumb ass who can't control his racecar if he tried... but Green took out Kenseth in the process so I can't complain too much
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:24 am

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 9):
That's not exactly awful...

Like I said . . . . I didn't get to see the race and relyed on the Text Messages from my girlfiend, who is a DIEHARD 24 fan . . . hell man, it ain't safe in our house when it's race time . . . LOL  box  fight  grumpy 

As an aside, we have Tony crap on one side and Jeff crap on the other side of her TV Room . . . I'm waiting to stop by for a visit one day and find the Tony crap out in the yard.  rotfl 
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:28 am

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 4):
#99 P.J. Jones will be taking over for David Reutimann

I found a typo I made, and just wanted to point it out so I don't confuse anyone. I accidentally put #99 P.J. Jones will be taking over for David Reutimann while it's supposed to be #00. I was thinking of Reutimann's Busch car.
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:42 am

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 9):
Mears was 4th



Quoting Duff44 (Reply 9):
Truex (2nd),

Those two are improving every week!  bigthumbsup 

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 9):
Brian Vickers had another strong run ruined by the fact Jeff Green

Ya, Vickers, IMO, has the best Toyota out there and was sort of hoping he would win since he was hangin' in the top 10 the whole race until Mr. Green wrecked him.  Angry

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 9):
Mikey Waltrip (10th!!!!

Almost halfway through the season and his crew is just figuring out how to qualify for the race? Uh-oh. Good for Mikey anyway, that's just what he needed.
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:04 am

Missed the race yesterday as I was busy all afternoon. Caught the highlights on ESPN, though. Another top 10 for Gordon & a 3rd for Smoke, so I'm happy. Too bad my Yahoo fantasy team got killed. Some thoughts:

-Edwards' win was good for his coach driver...anybody see how nasty looking that beard had gotten? (The one he & Carl agreed that he would grow until he won another Cup race).

-I feel good for Mikey getting a top 10, but how did he pull that off? Pit strategy, or was the car decent all day?

-It looks like Rick Hendrick is going to have some sentimental issues if he decides to pick up the #8 for Jr- give up the #5 (which has been HMS's since their start), or the #25 (the number of the team owned by Rick's dad & after his death, given to Ricky, who also died).

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 3):
Could someone clear this up for me please?... if you look at the results, it shows Mike Bliss finished 9th in the number 22 Supercuts car. But if you look at the 43rd finisher, you have Carlos Contreras who raced in the number 22 Supercuts car also. How does that work out????

Contreras ran the #44, which was a second Fitz Racing entry. Why NASCAR.com (or wherever you found the results) has him in the 22 is beyond me.
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:37 am

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 13):
Contreras ran the #44

Thanks!

Sorry to bug you guys, but could you give me some feedback on my idea I stated in the thread opener? I think it would make these threads a little bit funner. Your opinions?


This is just an idea, but what if next race we start something like we guess who gets the pole and who wins the race, and then we keep track of points by how many winners you picked, and how many polesitters you picked? Like 15 points if the driver you picked won, 10 pts if he finished 2-10, 8 pts if he finished 11-20, 6 pts if he finished 21-30, 4 pts if he finished 31-40, and 2 pts if he finished 41-43. And the same thing for poles too, but we'll have two separate standings for points and poles. What do you guys think about it?
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:23 am

Quoting AllegiantAir (Thread starter):
P.S. This is just an idea, but what if next race we start something like we guess who gets the pole and who wins the race, and then we keep track of points by how many winners you picked, and how many polesitters you picked? Like 15 points if the driver you picked won, 10 pts if he finished 2-10, 8 pts if he finished 11-20, 6 pts if he finished 21-30, 4 pts if he finished 31-40, and 2 pts if he finished 41-43. And the same thing for poles too, but we'll have two separate standings for points and poles. What do you guys think about it?

I think this is a great idea, Kreg, however I think it would work best if implemented at the beginning of the season, though it would work now as well. Separate threads form these NASCAR discussions should be used, which would make it that much easier, otherwise it would just be hard to keep track of.

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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:20 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 10):
I'm waiting to stop by for a visit one day and find the Tony crap out in the yard.

And me turning it into a bonfire...
 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 13):
I feel good for Mikey getting a top 10, but how did he pull that off? Pit strategy, or was the car decent all day?

He was decent all day... kept creeping up the leader board, and managed to get a top-10 out of the deal.

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 14):
Sorry to bug you guys, but could you give me some feedback on my idea I stated in the thread opener? I think it would make these threads a little bit funner. Your opinions?

Can we wager?  Big grin

Seriously... if I can remember to get here every week [sarcasm](it's a HUGE effort)[/sarcasm], I'm in.

Format suggestion: All picks have to be in before qualifying. Pick one driver in the top 15 in points, one from 16-30, and one from 31st or worse. Add up their finishing positions from the race, low score wins. If your driver doesn't qualify, he's credited with finishing 44th. (TIEBREAKERS: Whoever has the highest finisher overall, then 3nd highest, 3rd highest, etc. If two picks are exactly the same, whoever picked it first wins)
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:26 am

Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 15):



Quoting Duff44 (Reply 16):

Thanks for the ideas guys, I appreciate it. I'll be sure to add the info on the Infineon thread on Thursday.

Thanks to Duff44, we have an idea on how we're going to do the pole section, but what about the actual race? Should we choose two drivers then use the NASCAR points system to do the points? (i.e. You pick Edwards and Truex and they finish 1st and 2nd, which would mean for Edwards you would get 185 + 10 (bonus pts for leading the most laps) and 170 + 5 (bonus pts for leading at least one lap, but not the most) for Truex bringing your total to 370 points for that race)

[Edited 2007-06-19 03:32:26]

[Edited 2007-06-19 03:33:48]
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:27 am

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 14):
This is just an idea, but what if next race we start something like we guess who gets the pole and who wins the race, and then we keep track of points by how many winners you picked, and how many polesitters you picked? Like 15 points if the driver you picked won, 10 pts if he finished 2-10, 8 pts if he finished 11-20, 6 pts if he finished 21-30, 4 pts if he finished 31-40, and 2 pts if he finished 41-43. And the same thing for poles too, but we'll have two separate standings for points and poles. What do you guys think about it?

Sounds good...let's start it for the second half of the year, though.

Should be a pretty easy week for those of you playing the Yahoo game. Not hard to pick the contenders on all 3 lists this week.  Wink
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:42 am

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 17):
Thanks to Duff44, we have an idea on how we're going to do the pole section, but what about the actual race? Should we choose two drivers then use the NASCAR points system to do the points? (i.e. You pick Edwards and Truex and they finish 1st and 2nd, which would mean for Edwards you would get 185 + 10 (bonus pts for leading the most laps) and 170 + 5 (bonus pts for leading at least one lap, but not the most) for Truex bringing your total to 370 points for that race)

I meant that for the race, not qualifying (although I suppose it would work for both)... If somebody picks a go-or-go-homer for their 31+ pick, and they don't qualify, they are credited with a 44th place finish for the race.

Either that, or limit it to the top 35 (The chasers 1-12, 13-25, 26-35 or some split like that), so that everyone's drivers are guaranteed to be in...

I'm starting to think this will be REALLY complicated once everyone jumps in.... I'm still working on format ideas.
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:12 pm

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 19):

Thanks for the help Duff44, but I'm still thinking it would just be easier if everyone picked one driver for the pole and one for the race then use the NASCAR point system for the race (ie 1st place gets 185 points, 2nd gets 170 points, etc)

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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:13 am

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 20):

WoW.. of the 20 entries...50% come from AllegiantAir... the thread starter...and the same has held true with most of the weekly nascar threads he's started. Kid..it's summer time. Go outside and do something, play baseball, go to the park, go fishing, chase girls. There is more to life then nascar.
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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:31 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 21):
chase girls.

Hmmmmmmmm Not a bad idea........  scratchchin 

I think I'll go on a good trip based on that this summer......... better than chasing cars in this thread.  Wink


As long as Allegiant keeps track of the whole points system, I'm in!

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RE: NASCAR: Michigan 15/36

Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:35 am

Updated list, normal driver in parentheses:

#00 P.J. Jones (David Reutimann)
#02 Brandon Ash
#23 Butch Leitzinger (Jeremy Mayfield), number changed from 36 to 23 & CAT will sponsor.
#37 Brian Simo
#49 Klaus Graf (Mike Bliss)
#55 Terry Labonte (Michael Waltrip)
#60 Boris Said
#91 Marc Goossens
#96 Ron Fellows (Tony Raines)

The only drivers of this list guaranteed a start are Terry Labonte (Past Champ Provisional) & Ron Fellows (top 35 in owner points).

Marcos Ambrose voluntarily skips the race to focus on the Busch Series, will run at the Glen.

Scott Pruett has a schedule conflict and will not race.
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