dl021
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Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:29 am

The University has evidently moved fast with millions to make it up to the three primary players who were indicted. However what are they going to do with the team they canceled, the coach they fired, or the faculty who got together to destroy the students falsely accused?

Will this "Gang of 88" apologize in the same manner as they accused? They demanded justice and then said specifically what their justice meant. They were wrong and are now not commenting..... probably because they've been told to shut up by the administration, but that doesn't slow them down when they feel like they're right about something.

I'm waiting for them to apologize publicly with the same force as they condemned without trial or hearing.
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:32 am

hey, Farmer Bounce, did you ever The Fantastic Mr. Fox by Roald Dahl?  Wink
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:06 am

Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

You know the answer to that. Of course not. These radical leftist are quick to talk about justice and equality when it suits them but have no notion that justice and equality before the law means that they themselves cannot rush to justice.

I for one hope that these players got a really nice pay day from Duke.
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:15 am

Quoting STLGph (Reply 1):
did you ever The Fantastic Mr. Fox by Roald Dahl?

Excellent book; one of my favourite childhood stories.
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:18 am

Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
I'm waiting for them to apologize publicly with the same force as they condemned without trial or hearing.

Me too, but.....

Quoting Pope (Reply 2):
You know the answer to that.

Along with them, there are a couple of media whores I'd like to hear an apology from as well.
 
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:25 am

What university, and what "group of 88" is this?
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:37 am

Quoting Flyorski (Reply 5):
What university, and what "group of 88" is this?

A group of professors and other people affiliated with Duke University called themselves the Group of 88 and took out full page ad's in newspapers immediately after the arrest of the 3 lacross players who were indicited on rape charges. Those rape charges were eventually dismissed by the State's Attorney general after he took the case over from the local prosecuter who was accused of misconduct. The AG eventually declared the players "totally innocent" of the charges and the local district attorney was disbarred this past weekend.

The Group of 88 condemned the players without any knowledge of the facts and have now been very silent since they were exhonorated.
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:38 am

Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
Will this "Gang of 88" apologize in the same manner as they accused?

Sure they will when


Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton stop being hypocrites.
The media researches their stories before throwing them out to the world.
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:40 am

Quoting Pope (Reply 6):
The Group of 88 condemned the players without any knowledge of the facts and have now been very silent since they were exhonorated.

Thanks for filling me in. Very interesting, but I find it hard to imagin that they could blame people for a crime as serious as rape without any facts. Some people amaze me.  Wow!
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:46 am

Quoting Flyorski (Reply 8):
Very interesting, but I find it hard to imagin that they could blame people for a crime as serious as rape without any facts. Some people amaze me.

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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:47 am

Quoting Flyorski (Reply 8):
Very interesting, but I find it hard to imagin that they could blame people for a crime as serious as rape without any facts. Some people amaze me.

There is a giant rush to condemn a certain category of citizen here in this country for any crime of which they are accused of committing. The protected academic class which is generally unfettered by discretion or decency often takes it upon themselves to throw their "intellectual might and capital" behind whatever cause suits their hippie/socialist bent and doesn't always take little things like facts and due process into account.

I'm overgeneralizing....we're not talking about all professors or academics.....just most of the ones that get attention or media coverage. And seemingly by the lack of dissension most of the silent ones too.
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:38 am

Quoting Flyorski (Reply 8):
Thanks for filling me in. Very interesting, but I find it hard to imagin that they could blame people for a crime as serious as rape without any facts. Some people amaze me.

The players were white and rich, the strippers were black and/or not rich. In some people little minds that formula results in the white kids automatically being guilty, how could it be otherwise? We will never know the whole truth, but what we do know is that there is nothing at all to even base questioning on, muchless levy charges.

Sometimes being white can really suck, those guys found that out the hard way.
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:54 am

Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
Will this "Gang of 88" apologize in the same manner as they accused?

You could probably look up all their names and email them at their Duke addresses....that's the best you're gonna get.
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:06 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 12):
You could probably look up all their names and email them at their Duke addresses....that's the best you're gonna get.

In fact you can find that list, as well as the original ad, here:
http://www.concerneddukefaculty.org/
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:07 am

Just remember this saying: "There were no adults in charge" It applies to top management at Duke University for not offering this gang of 88 the option of publicly apologizing as loudly and vociferously as they trumpeted their charges, or joining their hero, Mike Nifong, in his new job as assistant bumper wiper at the famous Happy Bubbles car wash. I understand that Mikey was booted out of office today, since he wanted to stay in office until sometime in July.

That saying may also apply to any number of other situations where no logic prevails,
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:16 am

This topic came up on MSNBC last night. Dan Abrams brought a couple of the commentators on who'd condemned the lacrosse players initially. Susan Filan, an MSNBC legal analyst, apologized for the statements she made.

Will apologies solve anything? Not much, I don't think, we already know people are fallible--perhaps it'll make them think twice in the future, but the damage has already been done.
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:19 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 3):
Quoting STLGph (Reply 1):
did you ever The Fantastic Mr. Fox by Roald Dahl?

Excellent book; one of my favourite childhood stories.

....and as far as we know....they're *still* waiting....
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:01 am

Will Nancy Grace apologize?
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:06 am

Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 17):
Will Nancy Grace apologize?

Nancy Grace is worse than the entire Fox News staff put together, then some. She is SO annoying.
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:09 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 7):
Hell freezes over



One down....

Anyway, it will happen when S12PPL apologizes for being a tool.....and when FLAIRPORT stops buying snowglobes....and I learn how to ride a bike.....etc. etc.

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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:59 pm

Are the accused Duke players filing any sort of lawsuit? This is a rare case where I think it's actually justified.

Speaking of Nancy Grace and CNN. Do you yanks get BBC world on regular cable down there? In my city BBC world is channel 28 and CNN is 29. It's amazing to compare the two. The differences are vast. BBC has real world news, has segments for all parts of the globe, flip to CNN and it's Nancy Grace screaming into the camera telling you if you let your kids play outside they'll die from something, or Larry King interviewing Judge Judy about the Paris Hilton story  Yeah sure

CNN blows. Hot female anchors though. Big grin

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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:45 pm

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 13):
In fact you can find that list, as well as the original ad, here:
http://www.concerneddukefaculty.org/

I'm unimpressed by the grammar given this ad/letter came from university professors. The use of the word 'this' without ever defining what it means or stands for is just bush league.

Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 20):
Are the accused Duke players filing any sort of lawsuit? This is a rare case where I think it's actually justified.

They reached an out of court settlement with the university that I would assume keeps them from suing at a later time.

Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 20):
The differences are vast. BBC has real world news, has segments for all parts of the globe, flip to CNN and it's Nancy Grace screaming into the camera

Try CNN Headline News instead and you don't get Nancy Grace. It's still crappy stories but at least no Nancy Grace or Larry "The Cryptkeeper" King.
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:08 pm

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 7):
Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
Will this "Gang of 88" apologize in the same manner as they accused?

Sure they will when


Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton stop being hypocrites.
The media researches their stories before throwing them out to the world.
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Nuf said right here.
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RE: Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:51 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 7):
Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):Will this "Gang of 88" apologize in the same manner as they accused?
Sure they will when

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton stop being hypocrites.
The media researches their stories before throwing them out to the world.
Pigs fly
Hell freezes over

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Quoting DL021 (Reply 10):
Quoting Flyorski (Reply 8):Very interesting, but I find it hard to imagin that they could blame people for a crime as serious as rape without any facts. Some people amaze me.
There is a giant rush to condemn a certain category of citizen here in this country for any crime of which they are accused of committing. The protected academic class which is generally unfettered by discretion or decency often takes it upon themselves to throw their "intellectual might and capital" behind whatever cause suits their hippie/socialist bent and doesn't always take little things like facts and due process into account.

I wonder how many of those professors were on the law faculty. They must be really embarrassed.
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