lincoln
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Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:41 pm

Anyone have tips on ways to start conversations with complete strangers, for example the hot female who happened to sit next to you -- or even the just a random guy in the seat next to you on a 2 hour flight?

I can usually judge from the "Hi how are you doing?" weather the person is open to conversation or not, but I don't have the slightest clue how to turn that into a real conversation. Once the conversation gets moving, it's not a problem it's just that initial 'hump' -- I've have some really great conversations with people next to me on flights but either they instigated it or somehow we just stated talking.

I'm becoming desperate in my singleness, and I've come to the conclusion that a large part of my problem is the fact that I can't just walk up to a person, esp. of the opposite gender, and start a conversation.

Tips appreciated, flames unnecessary -- and be aware that I failed "Hidden Curriculum 101" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_curriculum) so I just don't get (yet) some of the subtleties of human interaction...

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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:07 pm

Quoting Lincoln (Thread starter):
I'm becoming desperate in my singleness, and I've come to the conclusion that a large part of my problem is the fact that I can't just walk up to a person, esp. of the opposite gender, and start

I have the exact same problem...
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:13 pm

I always start by just greeting them with a "how are you?" 'how ya doin?" sort of thing.
then I just lead the conversation on from there. Ask them where they are from, what they are doing wherever your at, and so on.
I've met some really interesting people doing just that.
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:30 pm

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 2):
I always start by just greeting them with a "How are you?" "How ya doin?" sort of thing. Then I just lead the conversation on from there. Ask them where they are from, what they are doing wherever you're at, and so on.

Copaair nailed it: The trick to getting anyone talking is to get them talking about their self.
The trick to keeping them talking is paying attention to what they say and asking pertinant questions about it while never giving a dissenting opinion of your own.  Smile
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:33 pm

Quoting TSS (Reply 3):
The trick to getting anyone talking is to get them talking about their self.
The trick to keeping them talking is paying attention to what they say and asking pertinant questions about it while never giving a dissenting opinion of your own.

I must try that when i call my roommate for the 1st time sometime. If you ever try riding long-distance trains and eating in the diner by yourself, you have a plenty of opportunity to learn how to, although I have always sucked at it and I guess never did it right.
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:35 pm

Quoting Lincoln (Thread starter):
Anyone have tips on ways to start conversations with complete strangers, for example the hot female who happened to sit next to you -- or even the just a random guy in the seat next to you on a 2 hour flight?

Easiest way for me is to find some common ground to comment on, saying something funny about it, or asking an open ended question that doesn't require a yes or no answer, such as asking for their opinion. A lot of people are put off by asking personal questions right off, so finding something going on around you to get the conversation going will make you appear less like you're just being nosey.

For instance, the last time I was on a red-eye, I was in the window seat and there was a guy in the aisle seat with no one in the middle, even though the flight was nearly full. As the door closed, we both kind of glanced at each other with that "aren't we the lucky ones" look, and he actually started the conversation by asking if I was just going to Atlanta or further on. He turned out to be an interesting guy who was flying on to South Africa where he had business.

If the only reason you want to talk to someone is to tell them all about yourself or rant about something, they'll get bored quickly. Remember that it's conversation, so you shouldn't just be asking question after question, without offering up something of your own. If you're at ease with yourself, the other person will usually be at ease with you as well.

Some people just don't want to talk, and that should be respected.
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:46 pm

My advice?

1. NEVER start with "hello, how are you doing"

2. if interjecting or stating something, state a fact, not an opinion or an observation.

3. if starting a question by asking a question, such as asking for directions or something, ask the question but then state something about the area you -might- be familiar with. that they they know they are not dealing with a total idiot.

4. don't stumble on words.

5. never ask anything personal ... such as are you married, are you single, is this your boyrfriend. never volunteer that information about yourself, either.

6. don't go out of the way to compliment. starting a cheesy conversation and then going for a stupid compliment is a good way to come off as a douche or a tool.

7. bend the truth if ncessary. or lie. completely come across as someone with a clue and that you are an "interesting" person to talk to. if you're just a college student, you're here on a "uh, research assignment" for class. if you can get away with it, it's your first time going somewhere, or you "just moved to the area."

8. leave out the dweeb details. (not to sound harsh) don't tell someone you're "on a mileage run" or you're "here on a layover specifically so you can go spottiong." don't offer technical performance specifications on the airplane you're on.

9. if it gets to "that point," you were in a long term relationship for a while, and that ended, but you were dating someone for a bit and that casually ended about ... two months ago (that's a good number).

10. avoid sports, politics, and religion. in that order.

11. be prepared at any time to get nasty and throw down if it becomes a failed attempt at any time. remember, you have the power of being a strong black woman.
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:46 pm

What about in situations where you aren't there that long? I was away on business and I was purchasing something at the mall, and while the cashier was assisting another customer her computer crashed. I asked what happened, --blue screen of death? She said yeah come over and look. So I did and then when she rebooted, it crashed again so I made a little (and dumb joke)--she giggled and in the end I got my item and I left. When I got back in the car I realised I should of asked her out for drinks. Or something, but she was still assisting another customer (since she checked me out after her computer came up rather than the other people that were there first).

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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:48 pm

Quoting CaptainJon (Reply 7):
When I got back in the car I realised I should of asked her out for drinks.

no. you shouldn't have.


you have been handed, though, what is called a "Gawk Pass." next time you are at the mall, you are more than welcome to walk by and intently stare in, see if she even recognizes you. if she waves at you, then you're fully entitled to stop in on your own accord and strike up a conversation. but even then, don't even ask her out for drinks. you have to do your homework first. she could be 17 for all you know.

the rule of any Mall Crawl is five visits/run-ins before asking someone out unless they ask you out first.

[Edited 2007-06-20 06:50:36]
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:51 pm

Quoting STLGph (Reply 8):
no. you shouldn't have.

Hmm... Why not? At least grab a bite for dinner or something? I know of people that asked girls out like that and got married.
 
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:53 pm

Quoting CaptainJon (Reply 9):

as mentioned above, there are rules to the Mall Crawl.
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:55 pm

Quoting STLGph (Reply 10):
as mentioned above, there are rules to the Mall Crawl.

ah... thanks... i feel better now.

Quoting STLGph (Reply 8):
she could be 17 for all you know.

and damn good point too.
 
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:58 pm

Quoting CaptainJon (Reply 11):
and damn good point too.

yes, btw, if you ever hear the words from a female of "well, my last job was at the Baby Gap...."

red flags should go up immediately.
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:01 pm

If gavin were straight he'd be mackin' broads 24-7.
he'd be collecting more cherries than Ms. Pac Man
great advice my friend.

[Edited 2007-06-20 07:02:17]
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:21 pm

Quoting CaptainJon (Reply 7):
When I got back in the car I realised I should of asked her out for drinks.

Craigslist's "Missed Connections" section  Wink
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:23 pm

Quoting USAFHummer (Reply 14):
Craigslist's "Missed Connections" section Wink

The Rants and Raves section on Craigslist is the best.
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:30 pm

Quoting STLGph (Reply 6):
is this your boyrfriend

If you are trying to chat up a woman who is with someone you have more balls (and less brains) than me!
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:33 pm

Quoting Andz (Reply 16):
If you are trying to chat up a woman who is with someone you have more balls (and less brains) than me!

I walked up to some guy and his girl one time and told him his girlfriend had a nice ass. He just stared at me. He wasn't willing to do anything, but it was funny.
I've done a lot of crazy things come to think about it.
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:36 pm

If you're doing this to meet a girl, just ask

"Hey there sweetie, do you swallow?"

or perhaps go "Well hello lips, legs, breast, and ass!" (Quagmire)







If she gives you a disgusting look, slaps you, or calls the police, I'm sorry, but it was never meant to be.

Quoting USAFHummer (Reply 14):
Craigslist's "Missed Connections" section

There's always some very interesting stuff on that site.




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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:39 pm

Or you could walk up to a woman with big breasts standing alone and say "how are you guys doing?"
That one always works.
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:39 pm

I missed out on a great opportunity last October...

I'm Lebanese and I was invited to this cultural party/event/whatever you want to call it on campus by some friends, so I went to it. I'm not much of a dancer, but when the dancing started, these two beautiful Arab girls were standing around near me for an extended amount of time. They were pondering what to do just like I was, until this Arabic song they recognized started playing and that's when they walked away.

Now that I look back, I wonder if they were trying to get my attention...

I must say, I really regret that I didn't talk to them. I could at least have struck up a conversation when they recognized the song...
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:40 pm

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 19):
Or you could walk up to a woman with big breasts standing alone and say "how are you guys doing?"
That one always works.

 rotfl 

Now that I've heard this, I'm going to try it just for fun.




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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:42 pm

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 21):

Now that I've heard this, I'm going to try it just for fun.

There's more like that. You'd just have to drive around town with me for a while.
It'd rub off on you.
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RE: Starting Conversations W/ Strangers

Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:46 pm

Quoting Lincoln (Thread starter):
I'm becoming desperate in my singleness, and I've come to the conclusion that a large part of my problem is the fact that I can't just walk up to a person, esp. of the opposite gender, and start a conversation.

Welcome to my world. Shyness sucks unless there's a third-party icebreaker.

However, I'm reminded of the classic TV series "Night Court," in which Judge Harry Stone would often introduce himself: "Hi, I'm Harry ... but, aren't we all?"  Big grin

What a way to introduce yourself, lol.
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