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"growing Humans As Mere Spare Parts Depots"

Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:59 pm

The following was mentionned at the Noble Prize Seminar at the Vienna University:


APA, 29/Aug/2007, Vienna - Three Nobel laureates voiced incomprehension on Thursday about restrictive laws on embryonic research in Austria and other Central European countries. Tim Hunt and Richard Roberts of Britain, and Roger Kornberg of the United States, were commenting at a press conference during their stay in the Austrian capital for the 2nd Vienna Nobel Prize Seminar organized by Vienna University. Roberts, who won the 1993 prize for medicine and physiology, said he could not see why it was forbidden to take cells from an embryo, which would have to be destroyed anyway, in order to help many people later on. Worries of misuse of such techniques, for instance "growing" humans as mere spare parts depots for others, were an issue for society in general, rather than science. Hunt, the 2001 prize winner for medicine and physiology, also had nothing in principle against cloning, saying it was not "a nightmare scenario as such". Roberts said that in the production of "evil things" such as catalysts of diseases, nature was still leagues ahead of any laboratory.

Wachyallthink? quite a touchy subject.

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RE: "growing Humans As Mere Spare Parts Depots"

Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:17 am

There was a Sci-Fi film that came out a couple of years ago that delt with the subject of clones for spare parts. I usually don't like those films, but it was a good movie. It was called "The Island", check it out.

You know it is total fiction because they tried to pass off parts of Detroit as 30 years from now LA.  

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Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:28 am

Human skin is currently grown. I don't see why we can't do the same with other parts.
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RE: "growing Humans As Mere Spare Parts Depots"

Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:35 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 2):
I don't see why we can't do the same with other parts.

I don't have a problem with growing spare parts. Cloning people I don't like but parts are ok. I wonder if it will be like remanufactured auto parts. I will have to turn my old parts in for the core charge.  idea 
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RE: "growing Humans As Mere Spare Parts Depots"

Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:44 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 2):
Human skin is currently grown. I don't see why we can't do the same with other parts.

You mean it is grown in labs, separate from the rest of the body? Or is there a bloke who is the test bed and provides skin?

(not pro or against, just asking)
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Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:51 am

Quoting Kay (Reply 4):
You mean it is grown in labs, separate from the rest of the body?

Yes, but you may not like what it's grown from.
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Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:59 am

Quoting TSS (Reply 5):
Yes, but you may not like what it's grown from.

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RE: "growing Humans As Mere Spare Parts Depots"

Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:59 am

What these scientists are basically saying is that, in the pursuit of scientific knowledge, the ends justify the means - that if they can do it, they should.

Dr. Joseph Mengele also thought that way.
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RE: "growing Humans As Mere Spare Parts Depots"

Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:05 am

Quoting TSS (Reply 5):
Yes, but you may not like what it's grown from.

Thanks for the warning, I'll remember that!!  yuck   faint 


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RE: "growing Humans As Mere Spare Parts Depots"

Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:14 am

I think Phillip Dick saw this one coming.

Now starts the debate on who is less than human.
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RE: "growing Humans As Mere Spare Parts Depots"

Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:22 am

Could they grow a body without a brain? Use a computer to reproduce the central nervous system and send the correct commands to the particular body parts and organs?

THat may make cloning ethical.
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RE: "growing Humans As Mere Spare Parts Depots"

Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:54 pm

Quoting DL021 (Reply 10):


Could they grow a body without a brain?

I refer you to GWB.
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