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U-20 World Cup

Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:44 pm

I'm surprised nothing has been posted with regards to the U-20 World Cup currently being played in Canada.

http://www.fifa.com/u20worldcup/index.html

I have seen several games thus far and have been very entertained by Brazil, Japan, Korea and the US. There are lots of goals being scored, some classic especially from Freddy Adu.

Anybody have any comments about the teams, players, any predictions, anything about the artificial turf?
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U-20 World Cup

Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:41 am

This tournament has seen some good games and nice goals.

I just finished watching the re-run of the USA-Poland game which ended 6-1. Awsome game with some amazing goals.

Quoting YooYoo (Thread starter):
anything about the artificial turf?

Are all games being played on artificial turf?
 
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U-20 World Cup

Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:01 am

The three eastern stadi are Turf and the three west are Grass. I am disappointed that the "National Soccer Stadium" went carpet instead of grass. Some quite entertaining games so far.

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RE: U-20 World Cup

Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:38 am

First, FIFA should ban artifical turf for tournament games! All tournaments organised by FIFA should be played in stadiums that have a grass pitch.

That being said, I haven't had a chance to pay lots of attention to the U-20 WC. I'm more interested in watching the Copa América right now.
 
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:48 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 3):
First, FIFA should ban artifical turf for tournament games

This turf is apparently FIFA approved. I'm still old school though, i would like to see grass in all cities.

I've not had a chance to play on it, but it looks nice and the players are not complaining..... yet. They're sliding and falling on it no problems. I did hear that the turf does wear down the calf muscles quicker and cramping sets in earlier. I noticed a few Polish players cramping in the their first game.

I've secured quarter final game tickets in Toronto and possibly final tickets as well. Maybe i can sneak in a run on the turf and let you know more.  Wink
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:31 am

What's there to talk about? Argentina will win it... again  Wink
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Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:20 am

And we will lose it... again  Wink
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:23 am

Well to be brutally honest, I'd trade a couple of the U-20 trophies since won since 2001 for one one of the trophies with the guys holding the globe...  dopey 
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:02 am

Interesting tournament....Some great games......Dos Santos has played really well...too bad he is Barca property.....much more interested in Copa America...Viva Argentina ( for the timebeing)......
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:11 am

Quoting LH477 (Reply 8):
Interesting tournament....Some great games......Dos Santos has played really well...too bad he is Barca property.....much more interested in Copa America...Viva Argentina ( for the timebeing)......

Boca having won the Libertadores continental club championship, if Argentina repeats as champs in the U-20 and wins the Copa, it would go a long way to restoring the dignity of Argentine football.
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:50 am

Maybe the US should have sent the U-20s to Copa America. Hopefully they can get a good result against Brazil and win the group. Everyone should keep an eye on Josmer Altidore. Right now the best US hope for a breakout star in the 2010 World Cup.
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:32 pm

A little article about the turf.

btw, Canada, if you don't score a goal, you can't win a game. Just thought i'd mention that to you. Very disappointed in their play.

http://www.torontosun.com/Sports/U20/2007/07/06/4317750-sun.html
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:41 pm

Yes, a lot of people in Argentina were very surprised by the poor quality of the so-called 'turf' in Canadian stadiums.

I'm sure Argentina has been among the biggest complainers, but you can't have a pitch that disintegrates into 1000 little pebbles at the slightest pressure or rough play, or even when the ball lands hard on it (I saw this on TV).

You could see by the 2nd half ARG-CZE the field looked like it had rained for three days and two matches had been played. That hurt Argentina a lot because it's football style is known for oustanding team play and passing, and individual dribbling and skill of it's players. To be honest, a 2nd division team in Argentina may have had a better field than those with that turf.
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:44 pm

My family has been watching some games in Victoria, and they say it was great. I'm sad I'm missing it!
 
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:45 am

Quoting Derico (Reply 12):
so-called 'turf' in Canadian stadiums.

Please be specific, it's only the eastern stadiums that have that shit, Swangaurd (Burnaby), Royal Athletic (Victoria) and Commonwealth (Edmonton) are all real grass. Commonwealth is probaly the best field in Canada to play on (for any sport).
I hate the artificial surfaces but 'FieldTurf' is better than the old 'Astro Turf' and it is sanctioned by FIFA.

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Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:52 am

Quoting WrenchBender (Reply 14):
Commonwealth is probaly the best field in Canada to play on

Did you see the Canada game? The ball was all over the place. To me, it seemed the field was not 100%.

oh well, both teams were playing on the same field.

I can recall the World Cup last year in Germany, their fields were pieces of art.  smile 
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:12 am

Time to bring this thread back to life since the knockout stages are set to begin tommorow.

The US couldn't have asked for a better path to the finals, with Mexico and Argentina on the other side of the bracket. They go up against Uruguay tommorow, and if they win, get the winner of Gambia vs. Austria.

Rough draw for Mexico. They are probably the best team in the tournament, fielding most of the same players that won the U-17 world cup two years ago. Their present for being pretty much perfect so far is a potential matchup with Argentina in the quarterfinals.
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:06 pm

Quoting YooYoo (Reply 11):
if you don't score a goal, you can't win a game.

I'm just a tad embarassed that the hometown kids were the only team to not score a goal.

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 16):
They go up against Uruguay tommorow, and if they win, get the winner of Gambia vs. Austria.

What a game the former was, with bodies flying all over the place. I think the Americans rallied around Adu with their other power forward gone and that's how they puilled it out. I was very unimpressed with the Uruguay forward Mathias Cardaccio, who tried to conclude the feisty game with a brawl. Not too smart of some of the American kids either to stay in there bickering and shouting either; they now have something to lose since five of them got yellows, while their opposition is going home.
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:57 pm

The US was very lucky to survive today. They controlled the posession, but didn't show any real ambition like they did against Poland and Brazil. They made a couple of good moves, but generally played safe, boring soccer for 70 minutes. Finally they were forced to get adventureous after getting scored on, and looked much better from that point on.

The injury to Altidore is a big concern to me. He is the best striker on the team. A good target man, kinda like a young Ronaldo or Didier Drogba. The US has never really had one of those at any level before. He has the size and skill to hold off his defender and either make a move for goal, or distribute the ball to his teammates. If he isn't back for the next match, he will be sorely missed.

Quoting Acey (Reply 17):
I was very unimpressed with the Uruguay forward Mathias Cardaccio, who tried to conclude the feisty game with a brawl. Not too smart of some of the American kids either to stay in there bickering and shouting either; they now have something to lose since five of them got yellows, while their opposition is going home.

Agreed, that brawl was just stupid. The American players needed to get out of there ASAP. Now the US has five players on a yellow card, who could be out for a potential match up with either Brazil or Spain.
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:02 am

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 18):
The US was very lucky to survive today

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I watched the first half of the Brazil/Spain match, very good football, surprising result though.
I would have liked to see the Japan/Czech game, again a surprising result.

Tonights matches are a more decent time for viewing.

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Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:54 am

I was just watching the Chile vs Nigeria match, and what a weird game. 0:0 after regulation, and only in Extra Time does Chile lash out with four goals. So it's now 4:0 after Extra Time but still, "La Rojita" plays much better football than "La Roja" or the Chilean A-Squad.
 
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:38 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 20):
I was just watching the Chile vs Nigeria match, and what a weird game. 0:0 after regulation, and only in Extra Time does Chile lash out with four goals. So it's now 4:0 after Extra Time but still, "La Rojita" plays much better football than "La Roja" or the Chilean A-Squad.

We got our asses whooped in that game. When it was 1-0, I still had hope that we could equalise and take it to penalties but as soon as the referee blew the foul in the box, I knew it was game over for us. I simply turned off my TV before the spot kick was taken and went to have a shower. By the time I was out to see what the final score was, I was absolutely gutted.

All in all it was a good game and congratulations to Chile. I hope they go all the way to win the tournament itself. Those guys play good football and I see them as worthy winners.
 
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:30 am

Who the f^#k is that asshole in the yellow shirt? He has no idea how to referee a football match. He's throwing out cards for shit that doesn't even deserve a whistle.
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:37 am

Damn. I haven't watched anything on the U-20, but I was hoping for Austria to get through to play against Argentina. Oh well, the Czech Republic is also a very dangerous rival, more dangerous than Austria (though Austria still had a great run in this U-20 WM), regardless of whether it's the U-20 or A-Squad playing.
 
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:46 pm

Quoting WrenchBender (Reply 22):
Who the f^#k is that asshole in the yellow shirt?

i just got back from the Arg Vs. Chl game. What a sham, the German ref was an embarrassment.
The game was pitiful, thank goodness for the fans and atmosphere to have the night not be a complete loss.
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:01 pm

Quoting YooYoo (Thread starter):
There are lots of goals being scored, some classic especially from Freddy Adu.

He is really playing a bit below his level for the U-20. He could easily be a first reserve on the US senior team

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 3):
First, FIFA should ban artifical turf for tournament games!

Absolutely. Soccer is a grass sport.

Quoting LH477 (Reply 8):
much more interested in Copa America...

Unfortunately, the USSF wasn't. Too bad, considering that the garbage team we sent was still competitive.

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 10):
Maybe the US should have sent the U-20s to Copa America.

Would have been a better team. Honestly, I really don't know why FIFA allowed the clubs to hold back players for the CA

Quoting YooYoo (Reply 15):

I can recall the World Cup last year in Germany, their fields were pieces of art.

The US has excellent grass pitches, particularly in places like Home Depot and Dick's in Denver

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 18):
The US has never really had one of those at any level before.

I don't know. McBride is a pretty damn good target man. One of the US' problems was not parring him with an Henry-type tweener like Donovan or Beasley at the start of matches.
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:02 am

I watched the Argentina vs Chile game last night and was totally disgusted by the Argentinians. The sheers amount of diving, and rolling around was pathetic. A sad, sad display. They may have won but they really did disgrace their country.

Just for last night, I hope the Czechs win the final.

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RE: U-20 World Cup

Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:40 am

Quoting YOWza (Reply 26):
I watched the Argentina vs Chile game last night and was totally disgusted by the Argentinians. The sheers amount of diving, and rolling around was pathetic. A sad, sad display. They may have won but they really did disgrace their country.

Just for last night, I hope the Czechs win the final.

 checkmark  checkmark  checkmark  I agree entirely with what you said. The first red card was a complete disgrace. The player just grabbed his face pretending to be kicked, causing the other guy to get sent off. It's garbage like this that makes Americans hate soccer.
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:17 am

Quoting YOWza (Reply 26):
The sheers amount of diving, and rolling around was pathetic

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Quoting YOWza (Reply 26):
I hope the Czechs win the final.

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Quoting Acey (Reply 27):
The first red card was a complete disgrace

i felt it was a yellow card. From what i saw, the play was "dead" but yet he intentional drilled the ball into his midsection. Intent to injure? But, the Argentine player took a swipe at his opponent while going down. So, both players should have been booked. Red was harsh. More yellow cards to the Argentines for flopping around like pansies, pathetic.
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RE: U-20 World Cup

Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:14 am

Congrats Argentina! U-20 World Champions 2007!  champagne 

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