DC10extender
Topic Author
Posts: 573
Joined: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:09 am

Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:51 am

I am going to Europe for 2 weeks next Thursday and I am not sure exactly what to do. I am going to Barcelona, Paris, Munich, and Vienna. I have three to four days in each city and would like to hear from you about where to go and what to see. Any advice would be really appreciated. Thanks.
Did you ever read on your birth certificate that life is fair? Thats cause its not there.
 
EMA747
Posts: 997
Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:01 am

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:31 am

I have never been to Barcelona, have only been to Vienna train station and Munich airport so can't comment on them.

Paris is an amazing city and you will have no trouble finding things to do there. If your into art then there are more galleries/museums than you could want. Eiffel tower is worth a trip but not if your afraid of heights!  Wink A trip on the river is also a good idea when your feet get a bit tired.
My advice would be to get to a central location (use the metro as its really good) and then just walk. You will come across loads of things be it shops, museums, parks and gardens etc. If you get tired hop on the metro and go to another bit of the city. I really like Montmartre. All the parks are nice for a bit of chilling in.

If you want any info on plane spotting/photography at CDG or any other Paris info PM me and I'll see what I can do.

Have a good trip.  Smile

Andy S
Failing doesn’t make you a failure. Giving up and refusing to try again does!
 
nosedive
Posts: 2176
Joined: Sun May 23, 2004 2:18 pm

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:25 am

Quoting EMA747 (Reply 1):
Eiffel tower is worth a trip but not if your afraid of heights!

Get there early, or be prepared to wait for a long ass time. The tower puts on a cool light display at night. I watched it at 2am drunk a few weeks ago. Was pretty cool.

Quoting EMA747 (Reply 1):
Montmartre

 checkmark 

Also check out the Military museum/Napoleon's grave. The Louvre is great.

Quoting DC10extender (Thread starter):
Munich

Hofbrauhaus! Olympic Stadium, Neuschwanstein, BMW, Glockenspeil, German History Museum, beer gardens

Quoting DC10extender (Thread starter):
Vienna

Mozart's house, Schonbrunn, Freud museum, more beer gardens

Get a multi-day transportation ticket for each city. It's cheaper. Leave your hotel aroun 10am and don't come back until 7pm, if only to drop off some things and go out for dinner. Paris tourism Munich Vienna

You're in the 16-20 group, as per your profile. If you're traveling alone, and you're not hosteling it up, I'd say you're missing out. You'll meet some characters in hostels, makes for some fun nights... sometimes for all the right reasons.
 
IFEMaster
Posts: 4164
Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:17 am

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:29 am

Remember that when you eat in restaurants, you don't and won't get free refills of your drink. You want another coke, you gotta buy another coke.
Delivering Anecdotes of Dubious Relevance Since 1978
 
Charles79
Posts: 1117
Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:35 pm

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:28 pm

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 3):
Remember that when you eat in restaurants, you don't and won't get free refills of your drink. You want another coke, you gotta buy another coke

That's true, yet most Americans aren't aware of that fact. Or the fact that in supermarkets in Germany they don't bag your groceries...or give you free bags at all! I once watched an American couple get into a fight in Heidelberg cause no one came to bag their stuff.

Have fun, Europe is certainly an amazing place to visit or live. My only advice is not to try and cram everything in one vacation...the European countries have been there for many years, and you'll probably get a chance to go back many times. Draft a rough schedule of what to do each day, but don't get down if it doesn't work out the way you planned. And do try the local cuisine!

Cheers!

Charles
 
eelonghorn
Posts: 42
Joined: Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:52 am

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:34 pm

In Munich, I spent an entire day here.
http://www.deutsches-museum.de/en
 
SJCRRPAX
Posts: 961
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:29 am

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:34 pm

Quoting Charles79 (Reply 4):
That's true, yet most Americans aren't aware of that fact. Or the fact that in supermarkets in Germany they don't bag your groceries...or give you free bags at all! I once watched an American couple get into a fight in Heidelberg cause no one came to bag their stuff.

Wow, I guess I should be embarrased by this... but when I was in Germany the store I would go to would put the groceries in a plastic bag for me, and as far as I know, they didn't charge me. I guess they just liked me. Or maybe it helps if you can't speak a word of German. I think San Francisco charges for plastic bags, maybe I should go there and see how it works in Superflys hometown.
 
RichPhitzwell
Posts: 1285
Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:19 am

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:44 pm

Drink Absinthe in Paris, just because its illegal here  Big grin
Nonav.com kinda like Whiners except the lights are on and the pimps been paid
 
waterpolodan
Posts: 1605
Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:46 pm

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:18 pm

Quoting DC10extender (Thread starter):
Barcelona

Go to Gaudí's Parc Guel and the Sagrada Familia... both amazing in their own ways. Also, the food is mind blowing wherever you go, and there is a fantastic nightlife! Love that city.
 
NoUFO
Posts: 7397
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2001 7:40 am

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:42 pm

Great itinerary!

Vienna:
The entire old town within Ringbahn. It's small enough to explore it by foot.
Naschmarkt at Linke Wiener Zeile. It's a farmer's market with a strong Oriental influence. Come early in the morning!
Have a Sacher Torte (chocolate cake) and a "Großer Brauner" (coffee) or "Melange" (coffee with more milk) at a typical Vienna styled coffeehouse.
Go to a "Heuriger" (a combination of pub and restaurant) to have dinner. The prezels and sausages on your table are not free, which shouldn't stop you from having one or two.


Paris:
The main sights: Champs Elysee, Tour D'Eiffel, Place de la Concorde, Arc de Triomphe, Notre Dame ...
Walk along the banks of the river Seine. You could start at Notre Dame.
Montmartre - best to be seen in the evening. Go up to Sacré Cœur to enjoy a beautiful view over the city.
Quartier Latin


Barcelona:
Las Ramblas
Walk off from Las Ramblas into any sidestreet!
Sagrada Familia
Parc Güell by Gaudí - it's north of the city but provides a great view. Clearly a must see, even better than Parc de la Ciutadella in my book.
Barcelona's nightlife is vibrant. Enjoy it.


Munich:
Being from Berlin, I must say that's probably the weak part of your travel itinerary.  Wink
Seriously, Munich can of course not compete with the other three cities, but you could visit
Englischer Garten
The BMW museum if you are into cars
Deutsches Museum
a beergarden, of course - the Hofbräuhaus is a tourist trap!
Marienplatz (together with the nearby shopping street the only place in Germany, where you are not allowed to drink alcohol in the public).
Dachau - the former concentration camp


Have fun.
I support the right to arm bears
 
nosedive
Posts: 2176
Joined: Sun May 23, 2004 2:18 pm

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:04 pm

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 9):
Being from Berlin, I must say that's probably the weak part of your travel itinerary

Hehe, I may have to agree with you here  Wink

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 9):
the Hofbräuhaus is a tourist trap!

Still worth it for us American tourists! But yeah, go to a "proper beer garden" and drink you litre beers  yummy 

Pay as much as you can in coins. If your bill is like 13.63€, at least put in 3 cents, 13 or 63 cents is better. Your pockets will thank you later. Be prepared to be paying for most things in cash, esp in Germany. Why oh why can't this country learn to love the debit card!? In some places, I've noticed neither my credit card nor my debit card will work, case in point: Parisian metro stations. Oh well.
Speaking of subways, Paris and Vienna (I believe) have museum-subway ticket packs. Look into them; they may save you a buck or 2. If not, I found Paris's 10 card subway pack a better deal than a 3 day ticket. It depends on how much you will be walking.

By the way, if you're flying around, make sure you know about how much time you'll need to get to/from the airport. RER trains from the middle of Paris will take you anywhere from 25-45 minutes, depending on how many stops you make. From the Hauptbahnhof in Munich, MUC is about 45 minutes out there on the S-bahn. On the CAT in Vienna, I think it took about 20 minutes from the Hauptbahnhof to the airport.
As for check-in times, in each airport, I was off the train and at the gate in under 30 minutes in each airport. Of course, not having any checked luggage and self service check-in kiosks will do wonders.  Silly I'd still try to be at the airport 90 mins. before your flight, just in case things get hairy you've got some time.

Oh, and don't expect passport stamps, save the ones you'll get when you enter "fortress Europe" and leave it. Here's why-Schengen Agreement
 
A342
Posts: 4017
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:05 pm

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:34 pm

Quoting EELonghorn (Reply 5):
In Munich, I spent an entire day here.
http://www.deutsches-museum.de/en

 checkmark  For an aviation geek, this is a must. While they also have some nice aircraft (like a Ju-52 and HFB-320), the collection of aircraft engines there is simply unbelievable.
Oh yes, there are also other things to see (and hear!) there!
Exceptions confirm the rule.
 
NoUFO
Posts: 7397
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2001 7:40 am

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:58 am

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 10):
Why oh why can't this country learn to love the debit card!? In some places, I've noticed neither my credit card nor my debit card will work,

Was it that the clerk or the waitress didn't accept your card or didn't your card work when using an ATM? ATM machines should always accept foreign debit and credit cards. Some people told me it's a good idea to let your bank know that you are going to to travel to Europe. When they notice that your card is used in Paris one day and the next in Vienna, they could assume a fraud or that your card was stolen.

Most places accept EC debit cards, but credit cards are indeed not as widely accepted as they are in the U.S. The good thing is that this helps to keep prices some 5% lower.
I support the right to arm bears
 
RichPhitzwell
Posts: 1285
Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:19 am

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:55 am

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 12):
Some people told me it's a good idea to let your bank know that you are going to to travel to Europe

Correct you are sir. They need to know when and where you will be. Also check with your bank on fees. My credit card had no fees to use it, but my debit when used as a credit card added little fees for every transaction. Even when using my debit card as a debit they would add not only the normal fee for withdrawls but the additional fee per transaction.
I caught this a couple of days into my trip otherwise I would have had to pay a good couple hundred in this silly fee.
Nonav.com kinda like Whiners except the lights are on and the pimps been paid
 
nosedive
Posts: 2176
Joined: Sun May 23, 2004 2:18 pm

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:13 pm

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 12):

Was it that the clerk or the waitress didn't accept your card or didn't your card work when using an ATM?

My debit card works in pretty much all ATMs; it's damn shame Wells Fargo doesn't have a partner bank here in Germany, though. Places like grocery stores, convenience stores, some electronic stores (Saturn and Media Markt), book stores, etc. usually do not like credit cards, and an EC card is not the same as an American debit card. Some of my non-German European friends also like to gripe that Germany is a bit weary of credit cards. Either that, or something is getting lost in translation.

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 12):
ATM machines should always accept foreign debit and credit cards

That's pretty much the case. Talk to your bank about partner banks in Europe so you don't get slammed with processing and conversion fees.
 
pelican
Posts: 2429
Joined: Mon Apr 05, 2004 9:51 pm

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:38 pm

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 14):
Some of my non-German European friends also like to gripe that Germany is a bit weary of credit cards.

Well, although I'm German I would like to use my credit cards more often.

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 14):
and an EC card is not the same as an American debit card.

And? Who cares what kind of debit card it is? The fact is, debit cards are widely excepted.
Why Germans don't use them more often I can't say. I use it for every purchase over 10€ and wonder why most people use cash to buy stuff at the grocery. I seems just silly to me - first you have to get money at the ATM -using your debit card, than you have to count your money at the cashpoint unless you want a ton small money... why not skip the ATM and use a debit card at the cashpoint?  banghead   banghead 


pelican
 
OHLHD
Posts: 2903
Joined: Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:02 am

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:55 pm

Vienna: Start by walking around the Ring. It is called so and you will get to Townhall, Burgtheather ( opposite of Townhall) Parliament, 2 museums ( cultural and natural historic museum) with Maria Theresia ( former emperor) sitting in the middle and pointing towards the arts museum. She is famous for declaring that all children have to go to school! She was also the one who received a kiss by Mozart when he was really young. Opposite of the museum is the last remaining city gate and inside is the Hofburg. From there the emperors ruled the country. If you walk on you will reach the street " Graben". It will lead you to the St. Stephans Cathedreal. From there walk the Kaertner Strasse which is big shopping street to the Opera.

From there take the metro U4 in direction Huetteldorf ( my favourite football club is there btw Big grin ) and get of at Schoenbrunn. This is the fantastic castle that was built by the royals. Make sure you get to the bag side which is even more impressive!

I hope it helps a bit and can easily be done in 4 hours.  Smile

As mentioned before the Sacher Tart can be bought any were but the original flair is at the Opera house as the Hotel Sacher is right there behind it.

Make sure you eat a Schnitzel. Big grin
 
DC10extender
Topic Author
Posts: 573
Joined: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:09 am

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:06 am

Thanks for all of the advice. I will take some notes. Trip report to follow my return.
Did you ever read on your birth certificate that life is fair? Thats cause its not there.
 
BREmer
Posts: 498
Joined: Fri May 14, 2004 7:50 pm

RE: Trip To Europe, Advice Please.

Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:30 am

advice on Munich...

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 9):
a beergarden, of course - the Hofbräuhaus is a tourist trap!

Agreed, don't go there unless you wanna meet dozens of other Americans and Japanese. If the weather is good, the beer garden is a MUST. The biggest beer garden is the 'Chinesischer Turm' (Chinese tower), just take the U6 subway to Giselastr. station and then bus 54 or 154 to the Chinesischer Turm stop or just walk from the city center.

If the weather sucks, have your beer at the X-club. Granted, it's no Bavarian folklore, but the ultimate bar tip of the young locals. It's located Clemensstr. 71, you can look it up on Google Maps, the nearest bus/tram stop is 'Kurfürstenplatz'. Be careful, that thing is such a secret tip it doesn't even have a sign on the outside.  Wink

Since you have several days to spend, you could also consider a trip to the Lake of Starnberg and Andechs monastery (famous for its beer and food), which are both easily accessible by suburban rail ('S-Bahn'). Neuschwanstein castle is also not too far, two hours by train (town of Fuessen).

Other things in Munich: Olympic Stadium, Nymphenburg Castle, Deutsches Museum, BMW.... think it's all been mentioned so far.

Lukas

[Edited 2007-07-09 21:33:25]

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Baidu [Spider], kasimir, mad99, mdisco, TheSonntag, Tugger and 16 guests