sandrozrh
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Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:15 am

Just in on CNN.

Explosion in central Manhattan. People are running from the scene.

Please tell me this aint true?

[Edited 2007-07-19 00:15:53]
 
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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:17 am

Heres hoping for no casualties...  Sad
 
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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:17 am

MSNBC.com has a banner, but no story yet.
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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:18 am

Sounds like the sewer blew up.

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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:20 am

Yup, apparently it was a transformer explosion.

At least it's not what i first thought it was.
 
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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:54 am

It was a steam pipe that exploded. I just saw it on The CBS Evening news. It was not a terrorist attack.


Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/18/national/main3072634.shtml
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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:15 am

"Some people covered in sludge" -- CNN

Sounds like they've been slimed. We know who to call now!

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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:19 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 9):
Sounds like they've been slimed. We know who to call now!

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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:20 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 8):
Quoting Confuscius (Reply 7):
No word if Rudy Guiliani is on the way help?

Oh, my hero!

where's the appeltini?
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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:01 am

MSNBC reporting one fatality.
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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:21 am

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070718/ap_on_re_us/manhattan_explosion

The steam pipes are sometimes prone to rupture, however. In 1989, a gigantic steam explosion ripped through a street, killing three people and sending mud and debris several stories into the air.

That explosion was caused by a condition known as "water hammer," the result of condensation of water inside a steam pipe.
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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:28 am

I was flipping through the channels.
It was pretty sad that BBC news was the first ones i saw reporting it. It was a full 30min later when CNN mentioned it on " situation room" I guess Lou Dobbs wouldn't stand to be interrupted while going on about foreigners
 
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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:49 am

Some news reports say that the steam pipe which exploded had been installed way back in 1924.
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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:09 am

Maybe Chertoff's gut finally relieved itself.
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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:26 am

Don't know too much about steam pipes. Do most big cities still use these for heating, etc?
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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:29 am

I'm surprised there hasn't been more utility-related explosions in New York City considering how old the infrastructure is there. Wasn't there a building collapse caused by a gas main explosion with in the last 18 months?
 
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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:48 am

So far, it appears that there were over 20 people injured, at least 1 death (a heart attack). An area surrounded by 43rd street to the north, 39th Street to the south and from Vanderbilt Ave. (just west of Grand Central Terminal) east to 3rd Avenue is closed to cars and people. They are continuing to test for asbestos although most - but not all - used to insulate the steam pipe systems was removed years ago so they have to play safe. So far no signs of asbestos problems. There is a tow truck in the crater from this incident. I would assume there is going to be a mess in the area for days, if not weeks. Let us hope there are no more reported deaths or injuries from this event. Of course, terror was suspected with this blast, but that dispelled in a matter of minutes. I wound note the area is close where one can get busses to the 3 metro airports.
I would note that there were very heavy rains in the morning today, it is possible that it may have leaked to the steam pipe and triggered a crack or softened the ground above the pipe to cause a crack too.

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 14):
Don't know too much about steam pipes. Do most big cities still use these for heating, etc?

NY City, mainly in Manhattan, has a significant steam line system. Originally, it used the leftover steam from coal and later oil burning electricity generating systems boilers to run the generator turbines. Some steam today is from electricity generation, but with some from specific steam production facilities. A number of larger buildings use the steam system as they then don't have to have their own boilers, with their individual needs for fuel, vent systems all of which would take up a lot of room in the buildings. Through the magic of thermodynamics, hot steam is also used to air condition these buildings! The steam is metered like natural gas and you pay a set price per 1000 cubic feet of steam.

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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:05 am

  RIP to the person who died.   

I hope the injured get well soon!!!!

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 16):

Thanks for the info. I've seen a program I think on the history channel about the city's underground, really interesting. Until something like this happens that is.

Dave

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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:10 am

I was in New York last year exactly on July 18! RIP the person that died.  Sad
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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:56 am

Hopefully the injuries were due to debris and not due to steam burns. Steam burns are really nasty and will leave permanent scars if they don't kill you. If you inhale large quantities of super hot steam, it will burn the linings of your lungs and asphyxiate you. Back in the bad old days of steam locomotives on the railroads, many enginemen were killed by such injuries. If the locomotive turned over and the steam pipes in the cab broke, you were in trouble.
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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:58 am

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RE: Explosion In NY?

Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:01 pm

Yeah. Steam under pressure is extremely powerful. Anyone know what pressure that line ran on?
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