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Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:33 am

Hello all.

I have a trip to Los Angeles on December. It´s my first time on this city, so could you please let me know your opinions on good hotels and good areas to stay? I mean, places where I can find activities during the day and night (Restaurants, bars....). Any other advices about important places to go, atractions, etc are apperciated.

So I look forward to your comments.

Thanks and best regards,

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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:47 am

Quoting 767AV (Thread starter):
I have a trip to Los Angeles on December.

I'm sorry.  Wink Just kidding. LA is an interesting town and plenty to do though you can get caught up in the rat race very quickly and not have a good time.

Stay away from Hollywood and Highland! What a complete and total zoo and nothing but a tourist trap.

We were just there and visited some friends (he's a singer/songwriter who does soundtrack work for movies and TV) and had a nice quiet dinner at Kado (Japanese food) in The Grove which is right next to the Farmer's Market with our families. After dinner we listened to the band that was playing on the green for a while and then called it a night because of the young kids.

If you're single then there are plenty of places to get wild, crazy, and drunk all up and down Hollywood, Santa Monica, and Sunset if you're going to stick to the Hollywood area of town.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:06 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
If you're single then there are plenty of places to get wild, crazy, and drunk all up and down Hollywood, Santa Monica, and Sunset if you're going to stick to the Hollywood area of town.

Hollywood is overly crowded, my recommendations are Marina Del Rey, Manhattan Beach, Hermosa Beach, all have good night life you can walk too and will not get creamed on hotel prices.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:20 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
I'm sorry

 yes 

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
Just kidding

 no 


I am heading to LA next week for work. I personally HATE LA, there isn't a whole lot that I like about it...I like San Diego, I like San Francisco, but not LA. Oh well.

AA61Hvy made a good call with Marina del Ray. One of my buddies lives there and it's a heck of a place to be if you have to be in LA. I enjoy going to Chinatown for dinner - my favorite place is CBS Seafood on Spring. I've also heard that B's Wonton Noodle House is awesome, I'm going to check that out next week.

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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:24 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
Stay away from Hollywood and Highland! What a complete and total zoo and nothing but a tourist trap.

Did you bother to read 767AV's profile? He's an early 20s guy..from Bogota, what on earth do you think he expects to see? exactly the 1st thing all if not most tourist see when they go to a large tourist destination--even if it's 'to get it out of the way'. He can't go back home and say 'Oh, I didn't bother to see the Chinese Theater and the Hollywood Walk of Fame , Hollywood and Highland, etc, because it's such a tourist trap." Like any of his buds are gonna be able to relate to the Grove or Farmer's Market (don't get me wrong, they cool places..but not headliners)!

Dude, hit all of Hollywood Blvd (day)..and you might wanna stomp it at night because there are a slew of mid-to-upscale nightclubs there now..everything from Goth to 'Fashionista' settings. Hit Sunset Blvd day & nite and also storm Melrose Ave, the rest Santa Monica, Westwood (UCLA area), Beverly Hills is on autopilot and speaks for itself-

Have a good visit 767AV!


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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:29 am

Quoting BN747 (Reply 4):
Did you bother to read 767AV's profile?

Lighten up Francis. Aren't you due back from your 15 minute break at Blockbuster where you are a "Movie Consultant"?  Wink

Let me caveat it a bit more to soothe your ruffled feathers...visit Hollywood and Highland, see the Chinese Theatre, check out the hand and footprints, see some stars on the sidewalk, get your picture taken with some of the horribly dressed and downright smelly actor impersonators on the street, maybe even get a snapshot of the Scientology Celebrity Center down the street and then get the heck out of there for calmer surrounds and more enjoyable stuff. 30 minutes there and you'll be set for life.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:54 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 5):

Lighten up Francis. Aren't you due back from your 15 minute break at Blockbuster where you are a "Movie Consultant"?

 rotfl 

if you have time i would go to San Diego i find it much better then LA

(plus you won't die from smog)
 
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:58 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 5):

Lighten up Francis. Aren't you due back from your 15 minute break at Blockbuster where you are a "Movie Consultant"?

Sure thing Alberta, where your IT skills ( plug & unplug telephone connecting switchboard operator ) are still useful in Backwater, Georgia  wink  - back atcha'...

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 5):
Let me caveat it a bit more to soothe your ruffled feathers...visit Hollywood and Highland, see the Chinese Theatre, check out the hand and footprints, see some stars on the sidewalk, get your picture taken with some of the horribly dressed and downright smelly actor impersonators on the street, maybe even get a snapshot of the Scientology Celebrity Center down the street and then get the heck out of there for calmer surrounds and more enjoyable stuff. 30 minutes there and you'll be set for life.

Seriously, DG.. does it hurt to be a little less cynical of someone visiting America or a famed American City for the 1st time. I mean, imagine you going to his country/city for the 1st time...I seriously doubt he'd trash any part of it, he'd mostly likely suggest the best places that most people flock to. Depart from the negative, once in awhile..you might enjoy the feeling.



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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:00 am

Quoting BN747 (Reply 7):
I seriously doubt he'd trash any part of it

i bet anyone would... thats not being cynical thats being nice

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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:05 am

Quoting PAHS200 (Reply 8):

i bet anyone would... thats not being cynical thats being nice

Anyone would? And your solicitations for travel advice to foreign destinations has been...?


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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:21 am

Quoting BN747 (Reply 7):
Seriously, DG.. does it hurt to be a little less cynical of someone visiting America or a famed American City for the 1st time.

It's not cynical but rather a honest view of that small section of the city. Visit it for sure to say you've been there but go spend times at better areas of the city.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 7):
I seriously doubt he'd trash any part of it, he'd mostly likely suggest the best places that most people flock to.

If you seriously think Hollywood and Highland is the best part of LA to visit then you have no business giving anyone travel advice.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:35 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 10):
It's not cynical but rather a honest view of that small section of the city. Visit it for sure to say you've been there but go spend times at better areas of the city.

That is 'your honest view' of the area, and I agree.. it is a tourist trap, but on my 1st visit to NYC, I went straight to the Empire State Building, then the WTC, etc, DC-the Washington Monument, SF-Ghiradelli Sq, Fishermans Wharf, Lombard St, the Golden Gate Bridge, etc, Seattle-the Space Needle - of course... my point, these are what 1st time tourist do. You probably did Hollywood and Highland too, in order to gather your opinion..or are you speaking 2nd hand? 767AV is visiting and/touring the City---simple as that.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 10):
If you seriously think Hollywood and Highland is the best part of LA to visit then you have no business giving anyone travel advice.

And if you believe what you just wrote there - ESP. without me WRITING that, INSINUATING that anywhere in this threat..you are UNIQUELY unqualified to render just who should be advising 'anyone' on 'anything'-

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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:42 am

Quoting 767AV (Thread starter):
let me know your opinions on good hotels

Check out The Snooty Fox Hotel.  yes 
They have mirrors on the ceiling and nightly rates are about $80 a night.
They may have hourly rates too.
It's not in the best part of LA but a cool experience.  Cool
I stayed there once and had a great time.


Address of Snooty Fox Motor Inn:
4120 South Western Avenue,
Los Angeles, California
USA, 90062

Phone of Snooty Fox Motor Inn:
(323) 294-0083
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:54 am

Quoting 767AV (Thread starter):

Minus the little flame fest going on above, I think you should visit the tourist traps, at least as a first-time visitor. IMO, you can't go wrong with Manhattan or Santa Monica Beach; Venice Beach if you want to see some interesting things. If you like to go clubbing, theres a relatively new and popular club (which I actually have not been to) called "LAX." in Hollywood. http://www.laxhollywood.com/

How long are you going to be here? Try to take a trip to the surrounding areas like SD or even LAS if you have the time.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:58 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 12):
Check out The Snooty Fox Hotel. yes
They have mirrors on the ceiling and nightly rates are about $80 a night.
They may have hourly rates too.
It's not in the best part of LA but a cool experience. Cool
I stayed there once and had a great time.


Address of Snooty Fox Motor Inn:
4120 South Western Avenue,
Los Angeles, California
USA, 90062

NO! NO! NO! And NO!

I'm sorry Superfly, I know you're trying to help, but I can't agree with you on that one..unless the poor guy wants to be holed up in hotel room from Sunset to Sunrise!

I say this because, we all seem pics of you..you're a fella with 'some heft' (and color)... translation: Anyone walking up and down Western Ave - AT NIGHT--- is either a native (familiar with the terrain), someone low on cash or someone with a super edgey sense of adventure! Maybe you know 767AV, but I don't and assuming (and I could be wrong) he's not in the bodyguard business...I'd advise he steer clear of everything east of Western, on Western and 10 blocks West of Western. Sure he could stay at the Snooty a month and nothing happen..but then again a lot of shady characters inhabit that entire area. He'd be better off staying at one the sleazy, 'pimp & ho motels' on Sunset...at least at nite they are in quick access/escape from the 'acceptable' nightlife areas. But more idea accomodations are further down (anything west of Fairfax) Sunset. There's also newly improve Youth Hostels on Hollywood, Cahuenga, (very nice one in city of Santa Monica) if he's cost budget minded!


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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:59 am

You've got to check out the rotating cocktail lounge "The Bonavista" at the top of the Westin Bonaventure Hotel tower. It's smack in the middle of 'downtown' (financial district), and it's awesome. Great views of sunset in the evenings, and if it's a clear day, you can easily see traffic in and out of LAX, Long Beach and Burbank.

Holler at me closer to the time, perhaps a mini meet could be in the works here.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:16 am

BN747:
 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

I should have mentioned that he shouldn't spend too much time on Western Ave. It's just a place to sleep. If you're with a fun gal, The Snooty Fox is a great place.  Smile

A cheap place I stayed at was the Saharan on Hollywood Bl.
They have rates as low as 69 a night.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:43 am

Quoting BN747 (Reply 11):
And if you believe what you just wrote there - ESP. without me WRITING that, INSINUATING that anywhere in this threat..you are UNIQUELY unqualified to render just who should be advising 'anyone' on 'anything'-

I assume you meant to type thread and not threat. If you think I threatened you I'll find that to be one of the funniest things you have ever penned on here.

The rest of your statements just aren't even worth responding to anymore. You are always looking to dispute anyone on anything and it gets old but that's what we expect from you.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:21 am

OK, as someone who has lived in LA for 11 years (and Orange County the previous 21 yrs), I think I can make a couple of recommendations:

Nightlife/Bars:
Downtown LA has a few really cool ones. Edison is one of the hottest new bars. It's on 2nd street. The Standard downtown is an excellent roof-top bar, very much a "see and be seen" type of place, with gorgeous views of downtown. New bars are popping up all the time. Hollywood is incredibly hot right now, especially along Hollywood Blvd. Although Paris Hilton and her crew usually hang out in this area, so be careful!  Wink Parc, LAX, Hyde all are hot, as is the bar in the Roosevelt Hotel (can't recall its name off-hand). Social on Sunset Blvd is excellent as a restaurant AND a bar. West Hollywood is still a scene on the Sunset Strip, and there are a ton of places I won't bother naming. If you're looking for the gay side, try Santa Monica Blvd in West Hollywood. The Abbey is a fun mixed bar on Robertson.

Museums/Attractions:
The Getty in Brentwood -- Excellent art as well as views of the West Side
Peterson Automotive Museum on Wilshire Blvd. near Beverly Hills -- Dedicated to LA's love of the car
Farmer's Market/The Grove on 3rd & Fairfax -- Farmer's Market has all sorts of different food, historic attraction. The Grove is a new "old-time" outdoor mall with shops, restaurants, etc.
Star's Homes Tours -- I've never been, since I grew up here. But if you are interested in seeing where the stars live, take one of these guided bus tours (I think they leave from Hollywood & Highland).
Lakers Game -- If you're interested in basketball, take in a Lakers game downtown at Staples Center.
Venice Beach -- OK, you have to go here just to see the spectacle. The beach should be nice, even in December. And you'll see muscle beach (where they work out outdoors), people walking on glass, protesting things, and doing and selling basically anything. It's what the Midwest thinks of when they think of the "Land of Fruit & Nuts" as LA is known in some circles.
LAX -- As an aviation enthusiast, there is no better spotting airport in the US than LAX. Nothing beats it in terms of vantage points (go to the In'N'Out Burger), airline variety, and aircraft variety.
Theme Parks, etc -- Disneyland, California Adventure, Magic Mountain are all usually on tourists' hit lists.
Aquarium of the Pacific -- Pretty cool aquarium down in Long Beach. Right next to the Queen Mary.

There's a hell of a lot more (I haven't even touched on Pasadena, Santa Barbara, Newport, or Laguna Beach). It all depends on what you're in to. But definitely get a rental car -- LA is way to spread out, and public transport is not the way to go.

And don't pay attention to the people who "hate" LA. You'll have a great time.
 
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:47 am

Travelin man:
You forgot to include Venice/Santa Monica beach were all the eccentric artistic people hang out. One of the few bright spots in SoCal.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:10 am

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 2):
Hollywood is overly crowded, my recommendations are Marina Del Rey, Manhattan Beach, Hermosa Beach, all have good night life you can walk too and will not get creamed on hotel prices.

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The Beach Cities (Redondo, Hermosa, Manhattan) are a great place to hang out. Hermosa's Pier is a popular nightspot with a whole bunch of bars, and plenty of twenty-somethings.

Nothing wrong with going out in Hollywood, just to check it out. I've done it a few times, and got sick of it, but it's worth it just to say you have.

If you're looking for a cool bar, go to Tom Bergin's on Fairfax near Park La Brea. Really cool Irish pub, with great Guinness.

Consider the fact that LA is huge, and with traffic like it is, it can take hours to get from one spot to another. A 20-mile freeway drive can easily take a couple hours. So plan accordingly.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 12):
4120 South Western Avenue,
Los Angeles, California
USA, 90062

 rotfl 

Love the name, um, don't love the location  Smile
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:21 am

Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 20):
If you're looking for a cool bar, go to Tom Bergin's on Fairfax near Park La Brea. Really cool Irish pub, with great Guinness.

On that note check out Ye Old King's Head near the 3rd St. Promenade. It's on Santa Monica Blvd. Another good pub.

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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:53 am

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 18):
Nightlife/Bars:
Downtown LA has a few really cool ones. Edison is one of the hottest new bars. It's on 2nd street. The Standard downtown is an excellent roof-top bar, very much a "see and be seen" type of place, with gorgeous views of downtown. New bars are popping up all the time. Hollywood is incredibly hot right now, especially along Hollywood Blvd. Although Paris Hilton and her crew usually hang out in this area, so be careful! Ê Parc, LAX, Hyde all are hot, as is the bar in the Roosevelt Hotel (can't recall its name off-hand). Social on Sunset Blvd is excellent as a restaurant AND a bar. West Hollywood is still a scene on the Sunset Strip, and there are a ton of places I won't bother naming. If you're looking for the gay side, try Santa Monica Blvd in West Hollywood. The Abbey is a fun mixed bar on Robertson.

Museums/Attractions:
The Getty in Brentwood -- Excellent art as well as views of the West Side
Peterson Automotive Museum on Wilshire Blvd. near Beverly Hills -- Dedicated to LA's love of the car
Farmer's Market/The Grove on 3rd & Fairfax -- Farmer's Market has all sorts of different food, historic attraction. The Grove is a new "old-time" outdoor mall with shops, restaurants, etc.
Star's Homes Tours -- I've never been, since I grew up here. But if you are interested in seeing where the stars live, take one of these guided bus tours (I think they leave from Hollywood & Highland).
Lakers Game -- If you're interested in basketball, take in a Lakers game downtown at Staples Center.
Venice Beach -- OK, you have to go here just to see the spectacle. The beach should be nice, even in December. And you'll see muscle beach (where they work out outdoors), people walking on glass, protesting things, and doing and selling basically anything. It's what the Midwest thinks of when they think of the "Land of Fruit & Nuts" as LA is known in some circles.
LAX -- As an aviation enthusiast, there is no better spotting airport in the US than LAX. Nothing beats it in terms of vantage points (go to the In'N'Out Burger), airline variety, and aircraft variety.
Theme Parks, etc -- Disneyland, California Adventure, Magic Mountain are all usually on tourists' hit lists.
Aquarium of the Pacific -- Pretty cool aquarium down in Long Beach. Right next to the Queen Mary.

There's a hell of a lot more (I haven't even touched on Pasadena, Santa Barbara, Newport, or Laguna Beach). It all depends on what you're in to. But definitely get a rental car -- LA is way to spread out, and public transport is not the way to go.

And don't pay attention to the people who "hate" LA. You'll have a great time.

Best advice on this thread. As I am a native southern californian, the only thing I'd add to the list is Mount Wilson at night, and what is provided below.

Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 20):

The Beach Cities (Redondo, Hermosa, Manhattan) are a great place to hang out. Hermosa's Pier is a popular nightspot with a whole bunch of bars, and plenty of twenty-somethings.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:49 am

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 18):
And don't pay attention to the people who "hate" LA. You'll have a great time.

There ya' go...

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 17):
I assume you meant to type thread and not threat. If you think I threatened you I'll find that to be one of the funniest things you have ever penned on here.

Let's see... ...and I wrote...

Quoting BN747 (Reply 11):
And if you believe what you just wrote there - ESP. without me WRITING that, INSINUATING that anywhere in this threat..you are UNIQUELY unqualified to render just who should be advising 'anyone' on 'anything'-

..and somehow you get from an obvious mispelling that if it were meant to spelled as 'threat'..

and I quote myself '...without me WRITING that, INSINUATING that anywhere in this threat' -- that would make it 'me' making the 'threat' since I'm talking about me--which makes no sense to any reasonable person -- period. The meaning is very clear, regardles of the misspell. I'm dying to hear how you could possibly have come up with that piece of work 'you weren't so sure of... ' But what is certain, as in the Obama thread, you're going out of your way being negative towards me. I even agreed with you above in your 'tourist trap' assesment..and you can't let up for a moment at staying negative. Is that Georgia thing..or just you and your aim towards me?

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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:42 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):
Travelin man:
You forgot to include Venice/Santa Monica beach were all the eccentric artistic people hang out. One of the few bright spots in SoCal.

Er, no I didn't (and no more of that snooty NoCal crap  Wink )

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 18):
Venice Beach -- OK, you have to go here just to see the spectacle. The beach should be nice, even in December. And you'll see muscle beach (where they work out outdoors), people walking on glass, protesting things, and doing and selling basically anything. It's what the Midwest thinks of when they think of the "Land of Fruit & Nuts" as LA is known in some circles.



Quoting Halls120 (Reply 22):
Best advice on this thread. As I am a native southern californian, the only thing I'd add to the list is Mount Wilson at night

Agreed. The view from Mt. Wilson at night is spectacular, the quintessential "lights that go out into the distance forever" view of Southern California. Except in December at night, it will probably be really cold, and there may even be snow.
 
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:11 am

Oh yeah, a couple of other things:

If you saw the movie "Swingers" and want to check out Los Feliz (my neck of the woods), there's a few things you may want to see:
Griffith Observatory -- It was recently re-opened after an extensive renovation. Great views, and a great Planetarium show. But you have to make reservations on line.
Derby -- One of those "Swingers" dance places where they actually do swing dancing
Dresden Room -- Excellent old school bar complete with cheesy lounge singers

If you're into comedy, go to either the Comedy Store or Laugh Factory (both are on Sunset). On any given night you are likely to find a (semi-) famous comedian performing. Or there is always the Groundlings on Melrose or "Upright Citizens Brigade" in Los Feliz if you are into comedy troupes.

As I said, a million things to do.
 
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:22 pm

Funny, I've been here for 3 years now and I'm finding advice on things to do on the internet...that's it, I gotta get out more!
Only thing no one has mentioned here is West Hollywood; even if you are not gay it's a very unique part of town with several bars/restaurants that serve great food. Also, take a day to walk around downtown LA, some very impressive buildings, and visit nearby Chinatown (go to the shopping alleys behind the scenes where you can negotiate the price of almost any good!).

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 18):
LAX -- As an aviation enthusiast, there is no better spotting airport in the US than LAX. Nothing beats it in terms of vantage points (go to the In'N'Out Burger), airline variety, and aircraft variety.

I live next to LAX and walk up/down Westchester Pkwy almost every day; the view of LAX is stunning, and there's never a dull moment. Just the other day I was looking at no fewer than 6 A340s at the same time, the other day I counted three Air France birds on the ground, etc. Only thing I can add is the view from Imperial Hill; it's of the South runways but it gives you a unique perspective of the airport.

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 21):
Perhaps we should have a LAX meet in the coming months?

Not a bad idea!
 
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:15 pm

Universal studios is great.

I have just flown back from LA and pretty much found the whole city a dump (no offence). People are unfrendly, pushy and the whole city is just dirty.

Other then that, Beverly hills is quite nice. Hollywood on the other hand - nothing special.
 
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:52 pm

Quoting Charles79 (Reply 26):
I live next to LAX and walk up/down Westchester Pkwy almost every da

I took a walk on Westchester Pkwy on Thursday evening... crazy
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:58 am

Quoting Joffie (Reply 27):
I have just flown back from LA and pretty much found the whole city a dump (no offence). People are unfrendly, pushy and the whole city is just dirty.

Ouch! Painful...but so true! And you forgot to mention the 24/7 jammed 405 freeway, the lack of greenery in the area, and the fact that we just added a new species to the endangered species list...the PEDESTRIAN! Seriously, walk down La Cienega at some point between Santa Monica and the Beverly Center and the cars outnumber the pedestrians by 10 to 1!

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 28):
I took a walk on Westchester Pkwy on Thursday evening... crazy

Then there's a good chance we crossed paths with each other!

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RE: Trip To L.A

Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:07 am

Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 20):
If you're looking for a cool bar, go to Tom Bergin's on Fairfax near Park La Brea

Nice location, not too far from my previous residence

Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 20):
don't love the location

Dont go anywhere near that part of Western, its a shithole

Quoting Charles79 (Reply 26):
I live next to LAX and walk up/down Westchester Pkwy almost every day

youre one lucky dude, I would love to live in one of the apartments next to Westchester parkway overlooking LAX.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:19 am

Quoting Charles79 (Reply 29):
Then there's a good chance we crossed paths with each other!

I saw three people when I was walking; it was from 5:15-5:45pm-shortly before the Air NZ 744 to LHR left.

I saw a shirtless fellow rollerblading with no shirt on. I also saw a couple walking their dog.

I was wearing a yellow ASU shirt walking with my girlfriend; on the south side of Westchester-
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:30 am

Quoting Joffie (Reply 27):
Universal studios is great.

All that LA has to offer and this guy comes up with 'Universal Studios is Great....'

Quoting Joffie (Reply 27):
I have just flown back from LA and pretty much found the whole city a dump (no offence). People are unfrendly, pushy and the whole city is just dirty.

And the Universal Studios comment sums it up perfectly, this is someone who easily 'get's lost in the crowd (aka no one pays attention to him for whatever reason and bitterness is gushing). Either you spent your entire time in LaHabra, Culver City, Cudahy or some other non-descript LA satellite... hating life AND you could easily be in the center of Paris and only have a good time at Euro-Disney-

What? Our sheer (city) population rivals that of your entire country..clearly, a lot of people prefer it!


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RE: Trip To L.A

Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:51 am

Dunno if anyone mentioned it, by the way, but the In'n'Out on Sepulveda Blvd. just north of the airport is a great place to see landings on the 24's. You'll have heavies from Asia approaching 200 feet above your head.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 32):
All that LA has to offer and this guy comes up with 'Universal Studios is Great....'

And the Universal Studios comment sums it up perfectly, this is someone who easily 'get's lost in the crowd (aka no one pays attention to him for whatever reason and bitterness is gushing). Either you spent your entire time in LaHabra, Culver City, Cudahy or some other non-descript LA satellite... hating life AND you could easily be in the center of Paris and only have a good time at Euro-Disney-

I'm thinking you should take some of your own advice:

Quoting BN747 (Reply 7):
Depart from the negative, once in awhile..you might enjoy the feeling.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:37 pm

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 31):
I saw three people when I was walking; it was from 5:15-5:45pm-shortly before the Air NZ 744 to LHR left.

I saw a shirtless fellow rollerblading with no shirt on. I also saw a couple walking their dog.

I was wearing a yellow ASU shirt walking with my girlfriend; on the south side of Westchester-

Uhmm, I think I left the building a little bit later than that, shortly after 1800 (6PM). I started my walk just before the KLM 744M left, and returned to the building as the BA 744 was taking off. I did see a couple of shirtless kids on rollerblades, but no dogs (sadly!). It is a nice area to walk, though, particularly the stretch between the Lincoln blvd overpass and Sepulveda blvd. Very little traffic, and the best view in LA (LAX, of course).

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 30):
youre one lucky dude, I would love to live in one of the apartments next to Westchester parkway overlooking LAX.

It's actually very convenient, I can see from my balcony about 2/3 of the 24s, and usually planes engage their thrust reversers right in front of the bldg, making it just a little loud! The best part is that whenever I go on short business trips to Sunnyvale (i.e., same day return, no overnight luggage) I can just walk to the airport and catch my flt. I don't know of many airports where you can just go and walk to the terminal.
 
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RE: Trip To L.A

Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:56 pm

Quoting BN747 (Reply 32):
Quoting Joffie (Reply 27):
Universal studios is great.

All that LA has to offer and this guy comes up with 'Universal Studios is Great....'

Quoting Joffie (Reply 27):
I have just flown back from LA and pretty much found the whole city a dump (no offence). People are unfrendly, pushy and the whole city is just dirty.

And the Universal Studios comment sums it up perfectly, this is someone who easily 'get's lost in the crowd (aka no one pays attention to him for whatever reason and bitterness is gushing). Either you spent your entire time in LaHabra, Culver City, Cudahy or some other non-descript LA satellite... hating life AND you could easily be in the center of Paris and only have a good time at Euro-Disney-

What? Our sheer (city) population rivals that of your entire country..clearly, a lot of people prefer it!

I take all that back...I just read Joffie's profile... he's a 16+ something...'

''Quoting Joffie (Reply 27):
I have just flown back from LA and pretty much found the whole city a dump (no offence). "

...he was a kid on a trip with his parents aka..he didn't see LA at all, no wonder 'Universal Studios WAS Great....'
767AV, take no pointers from this source--


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RE: Trip To L.A

Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:18 am

Well guys. Thanks for your comments about this trip. I´m going to take into account. I have one more question. How is the weather at that time of the year?
My plans are also to take a car from L.A up to San Francisco. Any advises also welcome too.

How do you get to In´N´Out Burger?

Thanks and Best Regards,

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RE: Trip To L.A

Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:59 am

Quoting 767AV (Reply 36):
How do you get to In´N´Out Burger?

Visit http://www.in-n-out.com and click on Locations.

Or click here... http://www.in-n-out.com/location_details.asp?id=117

Quoting 767AV (Reply 36):
I have one more question. How is the weather at that time of the year?

Usually SoCal is nice year round. The locals can give you better info but I've never had problems then. You might get a "winter" storm coming in off the Pacific but even that isn't bad. I would expect 70s or so and possibly needing a light jacket at night. Then again it could be scorching hot (not likely) or even cold by SoCal standards.

Quoting 767AV (Reply 36):
My plans are also to take a car from L.A up to San Francisco.

Take two to three days to do it minimum and drive up the coast and see the sites like Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Hearst Castle, Monterey and Carmel, Pebble Beach, Santa Cruz, etc.

Quoting Charles79 (Reply 29):
the lack of greenery in the area

Granted, it is a semi-arrid environment and they don't get tons of rain therefore the lack of vegetation even before all the freeways and concrete jungles were laid down.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:05 am

Weather should be quite nice. It won't have gotten to the heart of the "rainy" season yet, which is January through March if I remember correctly. Should probably be in the 60s/70s F during the day, and 50s at night.

The In'n'Out is just north of the terminals, on Sepulveda Blvd. If you're heading north on Sepulveda, it's on the left, just after you pass the approach lights to 24R. If you're driving, you can't make a left there, so you have to make a left on the next road, and swing back around. There's a little park across the street from the In'n'Out, too, where there are often people watching the approaches. If you look it up on the website that DeltaGator provided, it's the one in Westchester.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:08 am

Quoting 767AV (Reply 36):
I have one more question. How is the weather at that time of the year?

Weather is going to be cool, but during the night hours it can get cold, also remember that its bone dry, so get some chapstick/lip balm. Weather is rather pleasant, but there is more chance of rain in the winter months. Bring a light jacket, but there is a possibility that it might be colder.


Remember, In-n-out is cool, but Imperial hill is a great spotting location too, you get to see all of the Southside of LAX, and its just a wonderful place to relax and take in all the aircraft activity.

LA to SFO will take you 6.5 hours by car. I think its actually cheaper to fly SW to OAK from LAX or BUR. It will cost you probably $85RT. With the gas prices today, you will probably spend 90 bucks driving there. Although, taking the 101 is a scenic drive all the way to SFO. IMO, the most scenic place along that route is Big Sur.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:12 am

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 39):
Weather is going to be cool,

This is totally relative. People here in LA are wusses when it comes to weather. If it drops below 65 people wear scarves.

I was still wearing shorts around Xmas time. People were wearing heavy jackets then. It depends on your tolerance for cool temperatures.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:25 am

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 40):
I was still wearing shorts around Xmas time. People were wearing heavy jackets then. It depends on your tolerance for cool temperatures.

 yes ...I grew up in Namibia but to American parents from Chicago, so I swear I got the "cold weather" gene...people in Windhoek are amazed when they see me walking around in shorts in June/July (our winter) when the average is about 55 degrees F. Not that bad!
 
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RE: Trip To L.A

Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:38 pm

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 40):
This is totally relative. People here in LA are wusses when it comes to weather. If it drops below 65 people wear scarves.

So true! I came here from Connecticut where 30's in the winter were warm days and people would go out in light jackets, even shorts for jogging! LA may have a lot of negatives, but the weather is certainly not one of them, if you don't mind the absence of the 4 seasons. Me, I'd trade a few days of sunshine for some snow.

Cheers!

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RE: Trip To L.A

Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:12 pm

Quoting 767AV (Thread starter):
so could you please let me know your opinions on good hotels and good areas to stay?

There are lots of great hotels in L.A., and they tend to be cheaper than those in other major world cities. I would personally stay in one in a place like Santa Monica, Westwood or the Sunset Strip over Downtown simply because Downtown L.A. still tends to close down at night. Try the W in Westwood or the Hyatt or Standard on Sunset.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):


Stay away from Hollywood and Highland! What a complete and total zoo and nothing but a tourist trap.

Don't take this advice. If you have never been to L.A., this is an absolute must. It is the center of the Walk of Fame (the stars on Hollywood Blvd.) as well as the where the Chinese Theater and Wax Museum are.

Quoting Charles79 (Reply 26):

Only thing no one has mentioned here is West Hollywood; even if you are not gay it's a very unique part of town with several bars/restaurants that serve great food.

Total agreement. I lived in WeHo for 2 1/2 years and it was great. It is one of the few places in L.A. where you can actually walk around.

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 31):

I saw a shirtless fellow rollerblading with no shirt on.

That seems a bit redundant  Silly

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 37):

Quoting 767AV (Reply 36):
I have one more question. How is the weather at that time of the year?

Usually SoCal is nice year round.

Absolutely. I would bring a jacket and sweater just in case, but be prepared for low to mid 70s (20-25C).

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 39):


LA to SFO will take you 6.5 hours by car. I think its actually cheaper to fly SW to OAK from LAX or BUR.

I think the point of the drive is the experience.

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 39):
Although, taking the 101 is a scenic drive all the way to SFO. IMO, the most scenic place along that route is Big Sur.

Actually, Big Sur is along CA-1, Pacific Coast Highway

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 40):

This is totally relative. People here in LA are wusses when it comes to weather. If it drops below 65 people wear scarves.

And are sweating at 85+. We Angelenos are truly spoiled.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:11 pm

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 40):
Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 39):
Weather is going to be cool,

This is totally relative. People here in LA are wusses when it comes to weather. If it drops below 65 people wear scarves.

People in the lower 48 are wusses when it comes to weather. After we left for Alaska, my kids thought it was hilarious when their fellow Virginians put on coats when there was a hint of fall in the air, and then took snow days off from school.

They never had a day off from school in Alaska because it snowed.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:49 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 43):
That seems a bit redundant Silly

I was hoping no one noticed; I had a cocktail prior to that being posted  Wink
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RE: Trip To L.A

Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:44 am

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 24):
Er, no I didn't (and no more of that snooty NoCal crap )

 confused 
The Snooty Fox is in Los Angles. I wish we had a place like it here in NorCal.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:52 am

Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 38):
The In'n'Out is just north of the terminals, on Sepulveda Blvd. If you're heading north on Sepulveda, it's on the left, just after you pass the approach lights to 24R. If you're driving, you can't make a left there, so you have to make a left on the next road, and swing back around. There's a little park across the street from the In'n'Out, too, where there are often people watching the approaches. If you look it up on the website that DeltaGator provided, it's the one in Westchester.

The road you take left from Sepulveda is Westchester Pkwy.
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RE: Trip To L.A

Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:48 am

If you visit Hollywood, I'd suggest not visiting the Hollywood Highland complex without having another event to attend. The Hollywood Highland complex is nothing more than a glorified shopping mall posing as a tourist trap. Plan the visit in conjunction with another event in the area.

In fairness to Hollywood Highland, there are many afternoons / evenings when a special event is occurring in the courtyard. The nature of the event maybe enticing enough to visit the complex. Nevertheless, here are some other area attractions.

The Chinese Theater hosts many movie premieres. You may be interested in shooting photos of celebrities attending the premiere - or you may get lucky and snag an autograph, have your picture taken with a celebrity starring in the film, or get a ticket to attend the premiere screening.

Across the street from the Chinese Theater / Hollywood -Highland Complex, you'll find the El Capitan Theater. The television show 'Jimmy Kimmel Live' tapes there. It's very easy to obtain a ticket to attend the show as a member of the studio audience. An additional attraction with this TV show is that there usually is a musical guest who will give a mini-concert to conclude the show. The best part - show taping is free. See yourself on TV and perhaps see a favorite band of singer.

Speaking of music - depending on your musical tastes, you may find a good concert at the Henry Fonda Theater, the soon-to-reopen Hollywood Palladium, or the small club venue known as Avalon.

Another poster mentioned the Wax Museum. You'll also find 'Ripley's Believe It Or Not' museum within walking distance.

Finally, the Universal Studios is a short subway ride away from Hollywood and Highland.

Let me provide some links for you:
Movie premieres / 'Walk Of Fame' ceremony / Hand / Footprint ceremony at the Chinese Theater:
http://seeing-stars.com/Calendar/index.shtml

Jimmy Kimmel TV show taping:
http://1iota.com/home.aspx

Universal Studios:
http://www.universalstudioshollywood.com/index.html?__source=RGMN

Hollywood-Highland complex:
http://www.hollywoodandhighland.com/play_events.php

Avalon Hollywood:
http://www.avalonhollywood.com/concerts.html

Henry Fonda Theater:
http://www.henryfondatheater.com/2007/08_calendar.html
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