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Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:21 am

So who here has seen the Top Gear series where Jeremy Clarkson went to the United States. I used to like this guy and liked his show and thought he would do only serious shows but the auto industry etc... But after seeing some of the you tube clips of his Jeremy Clarkson in America I now stand corrected. What rubbish it was. Was he desperate for viewers or he just wanted to make fun of Americans? A few things where funny yes, but did people in the UK really believe all he had to say? I highly doubt they did.(I hope) It reminded me of a Michael Moore movie and that’s not a good thing. I agree with him that America does not have the best cars in the world that’s why I drive a VW. But the UK is not exactly famous for their great cars either.
I just cant believe Jeremy Clarkson would do such a stupid thing on his show. Maybe I just never seen enough of his shows latley and this is how he is?
I don’t think I could find one thing he said positive about America.
Just want to see other peoples opinions on this show and if there was any good reason for making it. I am guessing Top Gear just needed higher ratings thats why they made a garbage show like this.


(Just search Jeremy Clarkson's America you will find a lot of clips)
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:26 am

British Humor... What can I say  rotfl 
 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:32 am

Quoting GoingAround (Reply 1):
British Humor... What can I say

Gotta love it!!! I think it's GREAT! Big grin
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:32 am

Did you get your patriotic feelings hurt?  sarcastic  Jeremy Clarkson makes a point of being a grumpy utter nuisance every now and then, you should listen to some of his rants on British towns and regions. There's absolutely no reason to call him an anti-American.
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:34 am

Everything he said about Florida is true. He did forget Cubans though.

That particular episode did have some funny parts, but a lot of it was ignorant. I read somewhere that they wanted to do a Top Gear season in America with these three guys. I can't see how it would be good because they wouldn't say anything good about the cars.

Quoting FlyMIA (Thread starter):
It reminded me of a Michael Moore movie and that’s not a good thing.

A lot of Top Gear is meant to be in jest. Michael Moore tries to pretend he's serious, but he is still a bunch of rubbish.
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:52 am

FlyMIA, stop being a pansy  Yeah sure
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:56 am

Quoting FlyMIA (Thread starter):
I used to like this guy and liked his show and thought he would do only serious shows but the auto industry etc... But after seeing some of the you tube clips of his Jeremy Clarkson in America I now stand corrected. What rubbish it was.

Top gear has been talked about a couple of times on Anet .
I said it before and say it again, the man (JC) or the show as a whole is over its top and nowadays they have to resort to all kinds of ridiculousness and even worse, real bad acting from all 3 of them, to get decent viewer numbers.
It (the Show) has become light entertainment and is very successful at that but shouldn't be taken serious in any form.
I personally put it in the same league as Big Brother or Temptation Island, nonsense with a large audience.

Still ,I remain a big fan of JC when it comes to his writing skills and I must admit that the Top Gear Magazine is still THE standard for me.
Also a lot of TV shows he made besides Top gear, like his trip reports through the other EU countries, his report about Brunell ,the story about his father in law, his TV show about extreme things and last but not least his talkshow where all top quality.

I hope he found a better, less infantile way, to make the next Top Gear series, if so I'll be back viewing Sunday at 9Pm.
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:57 am

Quoting FlyMIA (Thread starter):
So who here has seen the Top Gear series where Jeremy Clarkson went to the United States

It wasn't one of their best - take a look at some of the others.

Quoting FlyMIA (Thread starter):
It reminded me of a Michael Moore movie and that’s not a good thing.

It's not like that at all really. It's just supposed to be a joke (even if they don't always get it right).
 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:59 am

A little bit off topic, but did anyone see the special last Sunday where they decided to try and drive to the North Pole? An awesome episode and one of the best yet!
 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:03 am

You can't have watched more than one episode of Top Gear and still be shocked and surprised about Clarkson giving his worst to come across as a bigoted, xenophobic jerk, can you?  mischievous 

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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:09 am

His antics are brilliant. I doubt he is being serious though, he just needs to moan about something.


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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:13 am

Quoting FlyMIA (Thread starter):
But the UK is not exactly famous for their great cars either.

No, only some of the most famous saught after cars in the world are from the UK :-

Rolls Royce
Bentley
Aston Martin
TVR
Lotus

to name a few.

I think JC has got it spot on with what he says about America, well 99% of it is true anyway.

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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:22 am

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):
Aston Martin

You see, that car is rubbish, but very cool (Sub-Zero).  Wink
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:23 am

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):
Rolls Royce

BMW

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):
Bentley

Volkswagen

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):
Aston Martin

Ford

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):
TVR

owned by a Russian

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):
Lotus

Proton

Anything more about British car manufacturers you'd like to say?  Wink You lot do have a lot of good things on your island(s), like no PM Tony Blair anymore, but noteworthy independent car manufacturers are not among them.
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:43 am

Just because they are no longer owned by the British, doesn't mean they are not still British cars !!.

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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:50 am

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 14):
Just because they are no longer owned by the British, doesn't mean they are not still British cars !!.

No. But their german engines just might...!  mischievous 
 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:59 am

Quoting FlyMIA (Thread starter):
Was he desperate for viewers or he just wanted to make fun of Americans?

You obviously don't know Jeremy Clarkson very well, he makes fun of anything and anyone he likes, he's an outspoken and very opinionated guy. Not only that, what he say's about America and Americans has some element of truth in it. Your ultra patriotic feelings have been hurt.  crying 

Quoting FlyMIA (Thread starter):
But the UK is not exactly famous for their great cars either.

The UK gave the world Rolls Royce, Bentley, Jaguar, Aston Martin etc just to name a few, it's just that foreigners love to own and run them. No other country has had so many prestigious car brands.

Quoting FlyMIA (Thread starter):
I am guessing Top Gear just needed higher ratings thats why they made a garbage show like this.

Nope. Top Gear is one of the most successful British TV programmes in the last few decades. It does not need to go to America to increase ratings, they only did that show to add some variety and international flavour to the show.
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:33 am

Quoting Aloges (Reply 13):
Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):
Bentley

Volkswagen

Regardless to VW ownership, Bentley HQ is in the UK.

Quoting Aloges (Reply 13):
Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):
Aston Martin

Ford

HQ is in Warwickshire, again the UK.



Rolls-Royce is also still UK based.



Just because the parent company is based in another country it doesn't mean they are. The cars are still British. Besides, British now or not, all the good cars they made (the classics) were British.

Jaguar is also another example of a good British car, the old ones particularly. Nowadays they have nice bodies with Ford Engines . . .

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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:45 am

Just out of curiosity, I did the YouTube search that the FlyMIA suggested, and after sifting through a mountain of Kelly Clarkson videos, I came across what I thought was the funniest quote from the TG America special:



Just to clarify, I've lived in the US for 10 years, and even if I didn't, I'd still know not to believe what he's saying. That's not to say that I haven't met people in America who fit those criteria; but I know better than to take Clarkson seriously.

Bottom line, it's entertainment. If you don't like it; don't watch it. If it angers you, then you're missing the point and probably shouldn't be watching it in the first place.

More interestingly, I scrolled down to the comments section for the above video to find this gem from the man himself:  silly 

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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:53 pm

Well I stand corrected I never knew that his shows where like this and he was such an opinionated guy like this. All the Top Gear episodes I seen I never saw anything like this. Guess I have just not seen enough, Like I said before there were some funny parts I admit that. But still I hate watching shows that put portray things way over the top. Like the clip from Miami where the guy says yea your going to get shoot once you pass 79th street. I drive through Miami high crime areas everyday and I have yet to have any problem.  Wink
I guess I just have not watched enough top gear. I have seen things like this before about America etc.. But I just never expected it from a show like top gear.
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:29 pm

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 4):
Everything he said about Florida is true.

Indeed it is.

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):
I think JC has got it spot on with what he says about America,

About American cars, perhaps, but not about America in general. But one will get easily offended if you try and take him to seriously about anything.

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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:06 pm

Quoting Tom12 (Reply 17):
Quoting Aloges (Reply 13):
Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):
Aston Martin

Ford

HQ is in Warwickshire, again the UK.

And if I'm not mistaken, it's back in British hands after Ford sold it to a private consortium.

On the topic at hand, you gotta be able to laugh at yourself every now and then, although so far everything he said is true (sadly, in some instances as in the fat americans comment). Getting upset about it won't get you anything; if you find it offensive, don't watch. For years we have made fun of other nationalities (German, French, Japanese come to mind), so we better be mature enough to take it when it comes our way. Advice: don't be so sensitive!

Quoting ArniePie (Reply 6):
Top Gear Magazine is still THE standard for me.

100% agree!

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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:47 pm

Jeremy Clarkson criticizes anything that's not British. Most of the time it's just tongue in cheek kind of stuff that you shouldn't take seriously.
 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:02 pm

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 14):
Just because they are no longer owned by the British, doesn't mean they are not still British cars !!.



Quoting Tom12 (Reply 17):
Just because the parent company is based in another country it doesn't mean they are.

Just to clear it up, I was pulling your leg(s).  Wink Had I actually wanted to bash a British car manufacturer, I'd have mentioned Rover.

Just like Aston Martin are owned by, well, somebody else, Ferrari, Lamborghini and Maserati are. Porsche is the only notable exception I can think of off the top of my head.
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:48 pm

Quoting Antdenatale (Reply 8):
A little bit off topic, but did anyone see the special last Sunday where they decided to try and drive to the North Pole?

Classic!

This is one of the best bits:

Skip to 2:50!  Big grin
 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:58 pm

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 22):
Jeremy Clarkson criticizes anything that's not British. Most of the time it's just tongue in cheek kind of stuff that you shouldn't take seriously.

Believe it or not he criticizes everything that IS British, too. He just generally critizes everything that isn't him. Anyone who takes him seriously on top gear needs to lighten up a bit, and anyone who thinks that top gear is rubbish now because they mysteriously need to interject all this scripted nonsense to maintain ratings should read this:

http://www.topgear.com/content/featu.../stories/2007/05/stories/09/1.html
 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:04 pm

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 22):
Jeremy Clarkson criticizes anything that's not British.

And anything that is british as well, probably at least as harshly! Big grin
 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:08 pm

Quoting EGGD (Reply 25):
He just generally critizes everything that isn't him.

Oh, a certain fat, balding bloke gets his share as well, every once in a while...
 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:21 pm

Quoting Charles79 (Reply 21):
And if I'm not mistaken, it's back in British hands after Ford sold it to a private consortium.

Yes, Aston Martin is back in British hands as of March 2007.
 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:24 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 27):
Oh, a certain fat, balding bloke gets his share as well, every once in a while...

Every once in a blue moon  Wink. Yeah the old man does send his fair share of crap his own way!
 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:01 pm

Anyone remember the Reliant Robin spacecraft challenge? That was stellar, even though they did never make it past a couple hundred feet AGL.
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:34 am

I love top gear its an awesome show!

The polar edition was really good! Laughed how James was the first person to just about loose the truck  rotfl 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:47 am

Americans don't understand UK humour. I think he's brilliant, but American people who i've asked don't even know who he is, nevermind find him funny.

He makes fun of things. It's his job to be funny, or top gear would suck. Stop whining. If you don't like it, don't watch it.....
 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:28 am

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 22):
Jeremy Clarkson criticizes anything that's not British. Most of the time it's just tongue in cheek kind of stuff that you shouldn't take seriously.

Not quite - he likes German cars - obviously can't fault him for that.  Smile
 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:23 am

Quoting Aloges (Reply 13):
Ford

As already said Aston Martin Big grin is owned by a private consortium headed by David Richards of Prodrive.

Quoting Aloges (Reply 13):
Volkswagen

Well their headquaters are still in Crewe and the cars are built in the same factory in Crewe (The same factory that the RR's were built in, until Bentley and RR parted ways)



Quoting Tom12 (Reply 17):
Rolls-Royce is also still UK based.

Yup and if I am correct there are still some sort of HQ type place in Crewe around the corner from Bentley, but it is out of the way behind trees and the new Blue Bell Mini showroom.

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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:54 am

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 34):
As already said Aston Martin is owned by a private consortium headed by David Richards of Prodrive.

But they're not involved financially, I can't be bothered to find out who is.

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 34):
Well their headquaters are still in Crewe and the cars are built in the same factory in Crewe

The Audi HQs aren't in Wolfsburg either.

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 34):
Yup and if I am correct there are still some sort of HQ type place in Crewe around the corner from Bentley

Even Clarkson admitted that we are responisble for the new Rools-Royce, Range Rover, Mini and Bentley. YouTube: Clarkson on Germany (hopefully the right one) But whatever's been said or will be said, those cars are British cars as much as Lamborghinis are Italian: VERY much so!

Edit: So the YouTube link wasn't quite the right one...  Silly Sorry, I didn't want to wait for my sluggish connection to load everything before I posted. The video I was looking for seems to be gone without a trace.

[Edited 2007-08-04 22:08:51]
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:45 am

Quoting Aloges (Reply 3):
Did you get your patriotic feelings hurt?

My thoughts exactly.
 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:16 am

Quoting Aloges (Reply 23):
Just to clear it up, I was pulling your leg(s).

Yeah I know you were.

Quoting Aloges (Reply 23):
Had I actually wanted to bash a British car manufacturer, I'd have mentioned Rover.

now now, Rover made a fine motor car, some of their best cars were made in the 1989-1999 period, just a period of very bad management and numerous buyouts left them with no consistancy, and in the end they ended up with a very limited and by then old model range without the funds to develop another car after those idiots spent all the money on that fancy new MG that nobody bought, and wasted even more by entering a team in the BTCC when they were on the bones of their asses already !!. The MGF/TF and the K series engines are a fine example of what Rover were capable of.

I drive a Rover myself, and the only problems I have had with it have been with the JAPANESE (Honda) engine in the front !!.

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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:22 pm

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 12):
You see, that car is rubbish, but very cool

You name me one single US car that is better than the Aston Martin DB9, becaouse to be blunt there are none?

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 19):

Some of the American Top Gear shows are ahem edited because JC does make a few jabs at the US and your country cannot bare someone to take the piss outta it.

As for the Polar special, I have never laughed so much at a TV as when I saw Richard trying to ski, and some of James May's quips made the show.

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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:40 am

Quoting BA787 (Reply 38):
Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 12):
You see, that car is rubbish, but very cool

You name me one single US car that is better than the Aston Martin DB9, becaouse to be blunt there are none?

Wow, I guess you've never seen the show. They always mention they'd never own one, but that it is very cool. Sorry I hurt your patriotic feelings.  Yeah sure
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:02 am

Clarkson is, as has been said, putting on an act to a degree.
Top Gear, (the original version of which he made his name on), is deliberately fun loving, piss taking and irreverent, not least to define it from other motoring shows.

It is in short, a show that those with not the slightest interest in cars, can enjoy too.

Clarkson actually has a lot to say in praise and admiration of America, he speaks in awe of the space programme, iconic machines like the 747, SR-71, F-15 Eagle, as examples I've seen.

But aspects of the 'Bible Belt' and 'Trailer Park America' are pretty reliable targets for humour, ridicule, not least when often some of those from it, the rather more demonstrative members of it, open their mouths.

British humour of a certain kind, takes the piss out of everything, not least ourselves.
 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:47 am

You really should watch Jeremy's DVD The Good The Bad and The Ugly. He brings out a dvd every year at Christmas. He made this last year - I have it at home.In this he tries to find a decent car in America. You can watch it on youtube but it's in about 9 parts. This is the intro with a Virgin A340 at the beginning.

 
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:59 am

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 39):
Wow, I guess you've never seen the show. They always mention they'd never own one, but that it is very cool. Sorry I hurt your patriotic feelings.

I have every single Top Gear episode on disc. I've also seen every single Top Gear episode, many of them more than once.

And I still don't have a clue what you're talking about.
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:56 am

Quoting Aloges (Reply 23):
Had I actually wanted to bash a British car manufacturer, I'd have mentioned Rover.

Haha yeah, not many positive things going for them business wise. Cars aren't bad though.



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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:36 am

Okay well I am over the America thing, I was just a little bit shocked when I first saw the episodes. But besides for that just wanted to say one more thing. Jeremy Clarkson hate for American cars is understandable but in automobile magazines latest issue they ranked the top 25 most important and influential cars in history. There were only 6 American cars in the list but out of the top 8 most influential important cars in history 5 of them were American cars. Including number 1 the Ford Model T. But yes the American car industry is not great anymore, hence the reason I drive a VW, but there are still some bright spots with the Z06, Cadillac expensive line, the SRT line, Jeep and the Saleen S7.
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RE: Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson In America?

Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:56 pm

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 44):
Jeremy Clarkson hate for American cars is understandable but in automobile magazines latest issue they ranked the top 25 most important and influential cars in history. There were only 6 American cars in the list but out of the top 8 most influential important cars in history 5 of them were American cars.

I don't think that even Jeremy Clarkson would deny that the US was very influential in the early days of the automobile. But American cars have generally been absolute crap for at least the past two decades. Things are turning around, but the US still lags behind Japan and Europe.

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