swissy
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Do North American GPS Not Work In Europe?

Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:26 pm

Good day my friends...

I bought a Pioneer portable GPS in Canada so my lovely wife would net get lost anymore Big grin (it works!!), however I will be in Europe for the next little while so I called Pioneer to see if I could buy a Europe street card and they advised me that these devices do not work in Europe....  Angry, do you know if they do or not??? or perhaps you know a web site I could buy a card???? or do you know why they do not work???

Thank you for your help

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RE: Do North American GPS Not Work In Europe?

Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:46 pm

The portable ones might be country specific. I have Microsoft Streets and Trips on my computer here in the US, and when I was in Norway, I installed AutoRoute and used it with no problems using the same GPS receiver.
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RE: Do North American GPS Not Work In Europe?

Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:52 pm

Selective Availability is not turned on currently across the GPS satellite network, so country specific denial of service should not be an issue.

What the company probably meant was 'we dont support the units use in other countries and thus dont supply the maps'.
 
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RE: Do North American GPS Not Work In Europe?

Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:26 pm

I have a TomTom unit, and it works fine in North America and Europe, and even comes with both sets of maps pre-installed.
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RE: Do North American GPS Not Work In Europe?

Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:27 pm

I've used my handheld (Garmin Legend) many times in Europe. No problems. No detailed maps, but no problems.
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RE: Do North American GPS Not Work In Europe?

Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:36 pm

Quoting Moo (Reply 2):
Selective Availability is not turned on currently across the GPS satellite network, so country specific denial of service should not be an issue.

Doesn't Selective Availability just affect the accuracy of "unauthorised" receivers? I've been using GPS in one form or another pretty much since it went active and I thought it wasn't easy to tell whether SA was on or not, in the early years, anyway. It was still pretty accurate for wide area navigation (~50m at worst, I seem to recall). I didn't know its use in certain locations could be inhibited.
 
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RE: Do North American GPS Not Work In Europe?

Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:22 am

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 1):
The portable ones might be country specific. I have Microsoft Streets and Trips on my computer here in the US, and when I was in Norway, I installed AutoRoute and used it with no problems using the same GPS receiver.

The unit I have runs with I believe with Windows CE...... so would you think Auto Route from MS would maybe work?? or would anyone have a web address were I can get a Europe card?

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 3):
I have a TomTom unit, and it works fine in North America and Europe, and even comes with both sets of maps pre-installed.

Yep you are right I guess I should have done some more research before I bought it as it seams for the TomTom units you can get maps with no problem..... still have 3 weeks time to find a map which will work with my unit...

Thank you very much guys

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RE: Do North American GPS Not Work In Europe?

Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:02 am

Do the Magellians work in Europe?
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RE: Do North American GPS Not Work In Europe?

Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:34 pm

Quoting David L (Reply 5):
Doesn't Selective Availability just affect the accuracy of "unauthorised" receivers?

SA was designed to deny accuracy to third parties, but allow the US military the accuracy to strike - in this manner, civilian GPS receivers are unauthorised and thus would be susceptable to SA.

SA can be geographical, but until May 2000 it was globally turned on.

The main reason it was turned off was because Differential GPS units made SA pointless - they could correct the error that SA introduced and provide the same accuracy as the US military was enjoying.
 
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RE: Do North American GPS Not Work In Europe?

Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:10 pm

Quoting Moo (Reply 8):
SA was designed to deny accuracy to third parties

That's what I thought - it's denial of accuracy rather than denial of service.  Smile

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