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The First Signs Of The Beckham Effect

Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:00 am

Before I begin, some ground rules:

1. This is a thread for those who are interested in 'soccer' (to make it clear that we're not talking about American Football). If you are of the disposition that insists on slagging the game off, please post elsewhere.

2. Please don't turn this in to a 'Beckham is crap' vs 'Beckham is world class' thread. We've had plenty of those.

3. Please keep it civil and on-topic. Football related threads have a habit of going down hill fairly quickly...

So, now that we're done with that, last night I was the Giant's stadium for the New York Red Bulls vs. Los Angeles Galaxy game. I'm a Galaxy season ticket holder but don't go to many away games simply because of the distance involved. However, the fixture was somewhat appealing so the missus and I took a last minute trip.

Having watched with intrigue for whatever effects Beckham's presence in MLS would have, I'm beginning to draw some fairly decent conclusions. Even with his limited time on the pitch so far, there are some things that just jump out at me:

1. He's bringing far more money in to MLS than ever before. This is a good thing. Galaxy merchandise sales are up massively, and last night's game set a new attendance record for a single regular season game. More money means more expansion and the ability to bring in better players.

2. Although it's obvious that Beckham isn't going to carry a team on his own, there is a notable difference in approach from the entire team when he's on the pitch. People used to say the same about Eric Cantona when he played for Man Utd, and now I see what he means. When Beckham is playing, the team work harder. They chase dead ball situations (something they've been notoriously lazy about this season), they get in to better open spaces, they respond to challenges more positively etc. In short, his presence has so far been a good think for Galaxy.

3. He's been a humble player. There were those on here a few months ago that were saying he was in it for the glory and the spotlight, but all I've seen so far is team work. He's set up goals and scored one himself, but it's clear from the way he passes the ball around and seeks out the through balls for those ahead of him are testament to his team work style. In fact, last night he was almost playing as a defending midfield, the way he was sitting back from attack.

4. Just a little observation from last night specifically. The atmosphere was amazing. It was the closest I've experienced to a 'European' atmosphere (chanting, singing, booing the ref etc.) at an MLS game. It was simply excellent. And cheers to every New Yorker who made my wife and I feel welcome for our first time in New York.

Anyway...any other thoughts from MLS followers? And England fans, how do you think his England prospects are over the next year or so now that he's playing in a less competitive league?
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RE: The First Signs Of The Beckham Effect

Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:06 am

Did you read the article recently on the LA times about Beckham and his appeal to Hispanic Fans of the Galaxy?. It kind of pissed me off, because most of the Hispanic fans said that they are not too happy with Beckham's move over here and they would rather see a Hispanic player come to the MLS and play. It seems like they dont appreciate the quality of the player but rather of his ethnic background. Nevertheless, Beckham's first goal was exactly why people got him over here in the first place. I think Beckham is going to be a great asset for the MLS.
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RE: The First Signs Of The Beckham Effect

Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:12 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Thread starter):
Giant's stadium

No apostrophe.

Quoting IFEMaster (Thread starter):
He's been a humble player. There were those on here a few months ago that were saying he was in it for the glory and the spotlight, but all I've seen so far is team work.

Which is really the way Beckham has played his whole career if you think about it.

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 1):
because most of the Hispanic fans said that they are not too happy with Beckham's move over here and they would rather see a Hispanic player come to the MLS and play

Which is rather strange, seeing that most of the MLS' big acquisitions have been Latino. Juan Pablo Angel, who has quickly become the best player in the MLS, and Cuathemoc Blanco are both of Latin American descent.
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RE: The First Signs Of The Beckham Effect

Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:16 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
No apostrophe.

My bad. I don't follow NFL  Smile Very nice facility though.

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 1):
Did you read the article recently on the LA times about Beckham and his appeal to Hispanic Fans of the Galaxy?

I did and it was somewhat confusing. But then I noted that most of the fans involved were Chivas fans, not Galaxy fans.
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RE: The First Signs Of The Beckham Effect

Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:22 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Thread starter):
Anyway...any other thoughts from MLS followers? And England fans, how do you think his England prospects are over the next year or so now that he's playing in a less competitive league?

Well, he's in the England team but if he makes a difference will remain to be seen. I personally don't like him, but as you said that's for another thread.

I went to the States end of July, and i asked Americans "Do you know who David Beckham is?" and they looked like i'd just morphed into a pile of green goo.
 
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RE: The First Signs Of The Beckham Effect

Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:22 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 3):
But then I noted that most of the fans involved were Chivas fans, not Galaxy fans.

Ah, now I get it. Just a little envy on the other side of the Superclassico. I think it is great how such a good rivalry has matured so quickly.
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RE: The First Signs Of The Beckham Effect

Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:25 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):
Ah, now I get it. Just a little envy on the other side of the Superclassico. I think it is great how such a good rivalry has matured so quickly.

Absolutely. Galaxy are "home" to Chivas on Thursday night, and I can't wait for it. Chivas have developed in to a god team very quickly, and the atmosphere and gameplay are excellent at Galaxy vs. Chivas games. Given the way Chivas have been playing thus far this season, I'd be surprised if Galaxy leave with the win.
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RE: The First Signs Of The Beckham Effect

Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:27 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 6):
Given the way Chivas have been playing thus far this season, I'd be surprised if Galaxy leave with the win.

Well, Chivas hasn't had to face Golden Balls yet.
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RE: The First Signs Of The Beckham Effect

Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:36 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
Well, Chivas hasn't had to face Golden Balls yet.

They may not have to. Beckham flew to London after the game last night to play for England on Wednesday. He said that he's flying back to LA on Thursday morning to hopefully play that night, but we'll see. He might only get a look in for the last 15 minutes or something. I hope he does play though, for the team effect I mentioned above.
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RE: The First Signs Of The Beckham Effect

Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:43 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
Quoting IFEMaster (Thread starter):Giant's stadium
No apostrophe.

I see the grammar police have a new acolyte.

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RE: The First Signs Of The Beckham Effect

Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:46 am

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 9):
I see the grammar police have a new acolyte.

DLX is probably very happy

Actually, I thought about that thread when I posted.
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RE: The First Signs Of The Beckham Effect

Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:53 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
Cuathemoc Blanco

Yay! The fire do something right!  biggrin 

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