withak
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Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:52 pm

The biggest security operation in Australian history, the APEC summit in Sydney, has been breached by a couple of comedians. For all who aren't aware (which I assume is most people) a large section of Sydney has been made a security zone and a wall erected.

All they had to do to get 10m from the US presidents hotel was hire a couple of 4WD's and a limo and stick a Canadian flag on the front. All eleven in the fake convoy have been arrested. Why do I get the feeling that a few people who were involved with security will have sore ears tonight?

Link below:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...cess/2007/09/06/1188783379922.html

WithaK
 
scottieprecord
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:01 pm

LMAO! He's right that the security system worked, but WTF. Did they really build a wall sectioning off part of Sydney?? Like large of an area are we talkin here?
 
trekster
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:15 pm

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 1):

Huge part of Sydney has been shut off, including the opera house. Locals are getting inconvenienced for the whole period with transport cut off in parts, roads blocked etc.
Where does the time go???
 
VHVXB
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:25 pm

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 1):
Did they really build a wall sectioning off part of Sydney??

Yes a 2.8 metre high security fence. Mainly protect GWB and Condi from anit-war demonstrators and whatever else they don't like about him

Heres another thread on APEC: Bush Visits Sydney For Apec (by LAXspotter Sep 4 2007 in Non Aviation)
 
QANTAS077
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:29 pm

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 1):
LMAO! He's right that the security system worked, but WTF. Did they really build a wall sectioning off part of Sydney?? Like large of an area are we talkin here?



http://www.smh.com.au/specials/apec/index.html

in red is where the fence is...not sure how much of the other shaded areas are fenced off. police have been saying that tourists can't take pics of the fence due to national security, 10mins later the media have them all over their websites. restaurants near the intercontinental hotel are not allowed to have cutlery on tables because they think it could be used in terrorist attack.

[Edited 2007-09-06 11:30:29]  banghead 

[Edited 2007-09-06 11:31:54]
 
bill142
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:42 pm

And security planning didn't see the chaser boys pulling a stunt like this how?
 
baroque
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:57 pm

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 1):
LMAO! He's right that the security system worked, but WTF. Did they really build a wall sectioning off part of Sydney?? Like large of an area are we talkin here?

Well you do tend to get quite a bit of real estate with a 5 km long wall.

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 5):
And security planning didn't see the chaser boys pulling a stunt like this how?

On the APEC thread, there is a view that maybe at least some police might have figured out they would come. Dressing up as Osama was fairly brave, but then these are the guys who invented Terry Wrist as a late passenger on a flight, together with his mate Al Kada. Downer seems hugely pleased that he was not caught in a stunt by them, wonder what he thought might happen - sorry, Downer seldom thinks, I will go and flagellate myself for that slip.

There is compensation for the drought, the horsey set want it for the equine flu, how about the poor bloody shopkeepers and taxi drivers suffering from all this madness, they really deserve something that has been imposed on them.
 
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm

Sounds like something I did in high school. We grabbed my friend's dad's Mercedes 600S, complete with tinted windows, I dressed up as a sheik and my friend dressed up as a limo driver. He drove and I sat in the back and we went to a drive through to get beer. We had the beer guy load up the trunk with beer and I gave him a $20 tip. He never did ask for ID  Smile We had a party later
It's not a near miss it's a near hit!!
 
QANTAS077
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:21 pm

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 5):
And security planning didn't see the chaser boys pulling a stunt like this how?

there's a reason they're security, intelligence isn't one of them...
 Cool
 
flyboysp
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:50 pm

The Chaser team charged and granted bail

ELEVEN crew from the ABC comedy show The Chaser have been charged and granted bail following their arrest in Sydney today over a fake motorcade.

Julian Morrow and Chas Licciardello, two of the on-screen stars of the satirical TV program The Chaser's War on Everything, were among 11 detained by police.

The fake motorcade had been staged as part of an APEC week stunt.


http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...y/0,22049,22375638-5001028,00.html

I cant wait to see the episode on air  Big grin
#proudtobeabulldog
 
baroque
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:08 pm

Quoting Flyboysp (Reply 9):
I cant wait to see the episode on air

Any odds on them finding a way to score off Downer's remarks. No, don't blame you, not good to bet on certainties!

Only problem is the police have been confiscating still cameras with stills of THE FENCE. So have they let the Chaser Boys keep their film? They might have very little to run with although the Chaser lads would surely have had back-up plans. Cannot wait to see the results. Just the news stations seem to have a fair bit of footage they can use. If they were sensible, they would have had a couple of long lens cameras well outside the no-go area.

Endless possibilities. Just getting arrested was fantastic publicity. That and Kath and Kim with a sacking in the one week. Oh dear. And then the speech in Mandarin. Curse APEC.

Did anyone catch what Howard said about the gas deal when he thought he was not on camera, sounded very like telling the Chinese that Aus gas is very cheap? This has been true, but should not be true.
 
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:14 pm

Quoting Baroque (Reply 10):
They might have very little to run with although the Chaser lads would surely have had back-up plans. Cannot wait to see the results. Just the news stations seem to have a fair bit of footage they can use. If they were sensible, they would have had a couple of long lens cameras well outside the no-go area.

apparently the entire tape got to where it needed to get too, ABC, Sydney.

Quoting Flyboysp (Reply 9):
The Chaser team charged and granted bail

charge will be dropped by the time APEC is over...that, or the police face humiliation because the guys did nothing illegal, the road they travelled down doesn't become illegal to use until tomorrow.  Wink

Quoting Baroque (Reply 10):
Endless possibilities. Just getting arrested was fantastic publicity. That and Kath and Kim with a sacking in the one week. Oh dear. And then the speech in Mandarin. Curse APEC.

fucking marvellous isn't it, Johnny who?

Quoting Baroque (Reply 10):
Did anyone catch what Howard said about the gas deal when he thought he was not on camera, sounded very like telling the Chinese that Aus gas is very cheap? This has been true, but should not be true.

does anyone catch what Howard has to say anymore?  Wink
 
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:28 pm

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 11):
Quoting Baroque (Reply 10):
They might have very little to run with although the Chaser lads would surely have had back-up plans. Cannot wait to see the results. Just the news stations seem to have a fair bit of footage they can use. If they were sensible, they would have had a couple of long lens cameras well outside the no-go area.

apparently the entire tape got to where it needed to get too, ABC, Sydney.

Super news!

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 11):
Quoting Baroque (Reply 10):
Did anyone catch what Howard said about the gas deal when he thought he was not on camera, sounded very like telling the Chinese that Aus gas is very cheap? This has been true, but should not be true.

does anyone catch what Howard has to say anymore?

No, but IF he said what I thought I heard, it would be DEATH. Remember the earlier Woodside contract basically has no escalation clause tying gas prices to oil prices, unlike most other contracts. Especially those contracts negotiated by the backward Indonesians, who have escalator clauses running hell west and crooked.

Doing it again, would be catastrophic. Woodside shareholders (the writer included) are not best pleased about the other one. Selling Pluto gas cheap would not be a good look. Yes, the field is called Pluto, but it is probably named for the God rather than the Disney dog, but then again if the price is bad, you begin to wonder.
 
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:38 pm

did you see the way Howard treated Hu in the signing at his office? quickly shook his hand for about 2 seconds then walked him out the door. god I hate that man, he's the most despicable leader this country has ever had. and to be having 3 way meetings without China is beyond any comprehension.

The look on dolly and rodent's face when Rudd spoke in Mandarin was priceless!

[Edited 2007-09-06 14:39:43]
 
baroque
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:39 pm

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 13):
The look on dolly and rodent's face when Rudd spoke in Mandarin was priceless!

Howard's face was straight out of Easter Island, did not notice Dolly - I guess that is Downer (I rather think of him in Moir's terms as a very shabby toy bear).
 
baroque
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:19 pm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/09/06/2026442.htm
Did you ever see a more relaxed or smiling bunch after their arrest?
Tut tut Kevin, looks like another ruler lacking a sense of humour. What do we do to deserve them?


"In a statement the program says they had not intended to enter the APEC restricted zone, and believed they were given permission to proceed by police.

The team says they were unaware they were actually in a restricted zone and turned around voluntarily when they thought they were about to enter the security area.

The program has reiterated that the entire stunt was intended as a joke.

But Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd has condemned the stunt.

Mr Rudd told Channel Nine that while satire has a role to play, the stunt was inappropriate.

"Given the heightened security environment around Sydney that's actually just not responsible," he said.

"I'm a fan of the Chaser's, I watch their stuff, they take the mickey out of me all the time, that's fine, but I think when you've got a major security event going on in Sydney right now, I think these guys have crossed the line.""
 
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:33 pm

Probably if someone tried such an act in the USA, they would have been nailed much earlier, probably at a first checkpoint and wouldn't be bailed out for a couple of weeks. Sounds like Australian/Sydney police didn't do their job as well as they should. Sadly too, this proves that anybody - including potential terrorists - can find weak points in any security.
From what I have heard about this group of comics, they are very 'cheeky' and play on the high wire without a net. Sometimes you need that to keep sanity in society but there acts were stupid and could have led to a tragedy as they did distract police from their job. I have worked in NY City for many years and often have to deal with the hassles the President and top world leaders or someone like the Roman Catholic Pope creates when they visit.
 
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:17 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 16):
Sometimes you need that to keep sanity in society but there acts were stupid and could have led to a tragedy as they did distract police from their job.

Readers of the Sydney Morning Herald are currently voting:
Funny 86%

Not funny 14%
Ed added, 16,500+ votes so far. And the site does know if you try to vote twice.

They did not ask whether the stunt should have been undertaken. However, as has been remarked, the audience for the coming episode should be pretty high.

There seems to be some sort of argument as to when the road they were on is officially closed.

[Edited 2007-09-06 17:19:54]
 
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:44 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 16):
Probably if someone tried such an act in the USA, they would have been nailed much earlier, probably at a first checkpoint and wouldn't be bailed out for a couple of weeks. Sounds like Australian/Sydney police didn't do their job as well as they should. Sadly too, this proves that anybody - including potential terrorists - can find weak points in any security

 redflag 
http://www.zug.com/pranks/super/index01.html
I think you can say that the super bowl was a high security event and these guys were not caught. Security is an human endeavor and because of that it's not infallible
 
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:00 am

Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
There seems to be some sort of argument as to when the road they were on is officially closed.

as I understand it that occurs today.
 
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:22 pm

Quoting Yfbflyer (Reply 18):
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 16):
Probably if someone tried such an act in the USA, they would have been nailed much earlier, probably at a first checkpoint and wouldn't be bailed out for a couple of weeks. Sounds like Australian/Sydney police didn't do their job as well as they should. Sadly too, this proves that anybody - including potential terrorists - can find weak points in any security

So a rumour goes around that someone is running a fake Bush cavalcade. The real Bush cavalcade comes to a check point and one security guy is suspicious. He motions to the cavalcade to stop. Do let us know what happens next?
I think the whole assumption that cavalcades offer security is misguided at best, and bloody dangerous at worst.

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 19):
Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
There seems to be some sort of argument as to when the road they were on is officially closed.

as I understand it that occurs today.

As best I can work out, this is/was correct.
 
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:39 pm

Quoting Baroque (Reply 20):
So a rumour goes around that someone is running a fake Bush cavalcade. The real Bush cavalcade comes to a check point and one security guy is suspicious. He motions to the cavalcade to stop. Do let us know what happens next?

Well, first off, a real motorcade with high priority assests is in constant radio contact with an exterorior security detachment with updates as to status of position and direction of travel. That exterior detachment should be in contact with any other security teams along the route to notify them of the approach of the high priority assests. If a motorcade were to show up at a security checkpoint without notification it should very much be immediately stopped.


That aside.

Funny prank.
"I KICKED BURNING TERRORIST SO HARD IN BALLS THAT I TORE A TENDON" - Alex McIlveen
 
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RE: Apec Security Breached By Comedians

Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:41 pm

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 21):
Quoting Baroque (Reply 20):
So a rumour goes around that someone is running a fake Bush cavalcade. The real Bush cavalcade comes to a check point and one security guy is suspicious. He motions to the cavalcade to stop. Do let us know what happens next?

Well, first off, a real motorcade with high priority assests is in constant radio contact with an exterorior security detachment with updates as to status of position and direction of travel. That exterior detachment should be in contact with any other security teams along the route to notify them of the approach of the high priority assests. If a motorcade were to show up at a security checkpoint without notification it should very much be immediately stopped.

It is probably impossible to find out, but given that the US have insisted on bringing their own weapons, I would not be surprised to find that the do not keep in radio contact with the local wallopers. I don't know, but it is a definite possibility.

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