sw733
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Australia - Where To Go?

Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:54 am

All right, I need some opinions here. I have been requested to go to Australia on work (to Wollongong), and my girlfriend and I want to make it a vacation. We are both big city lovers, so we want to stick to a major city rather than the country. For sure we around going to spend a couple days in Sydney, but we can't decide what other city (just one) to see. We've though Brisbane, Hobart, and Adelaide, as well as maybe taking the cheap Aerolineas Argentinas flight over to Auckland.

Can any of my Australian friends, or Australia frequenters, help us make this decision?

Thanks!
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:06 am

Try a search!
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:59 am

Adelaide is lovely, very laid back and understated, but some great restaurants and of course the wineries. If you have the time, get over to Kangaroo Island too, very pretty scenery.

Tasmania is great, if you can get up to Cradle Mountain - beautiful mountains and forests, amazing walks and wildlife. Also, Strahan on the south-west coast is pretty, and you can take a floatplane up into the state forest area, which is just amazing.
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:28 am

Hi Zach

Hope you enjoy your time in the 'Gong! I have family who live in Bomaderry (about an hour south of Wollongong) and it is a beautiful part of Australia.

I live in Brisbane and I love it. We have beautiful weather, a great social scene, good shopping and plenty to do as a day trip. And if you have a car you can drive out to the spotting area at the end of the runway here at BNE (you can drop your girlfriend off at DFO to do some damage to the credit cards while you have a leisurely spot!) You can also get to the Gold Coast which is a great place to spend a couple of days if you like the city lifestyle but also the beach. If you are into cities I wouldn't head up to the Sunshine Coast as there's really nothing to do up there.

I have to say though that besides my home city, I absolutely LOVE Melbourne! There is so much culture and nightlife, heaps of fantastic clubs, pubs, restaurants and cafes, the shopping is just amazing and if you'll be there in Summer you can of course catch some cricket at the MCG.

If you wanted to get another stamp in your passport then Auckland is a tops place to go. I so want to go back! Its just like any other city only a bit smaller and cleaner and colder lol. You have a pretty good choice of airlines to get yourself over there too from SYD - NZ, LA, AR, EK, DJ (I think) and if you're desperate QF.

If you have any other questions or anything like that just ask, happy to help!
 
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:41 am

Quoting BNEFlyer (Reply 3):
I have family who live in Bomaderry

Actually, I am going to Nowra to be exact, I just didn't know how many people knew it, so I put up Wollongong since it's fairly close.

Thanks for the advice everyone! I am leaning towards Brisbane or Hobart at this point, but I'm not totally sure yet. I'd love to go to Ayers Rock or Perth, but we're trying to keep the costs somewhat low (i.e. a cross country plane trip doesn't fit the bill, especially having 2 people).

We'll see...tough decisions!
 
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:58 am

Quoting SW733 (Thread starter):
We are both big city lovers



Quoting SW733 (Reply 4):
leaning towards Brisbane or Hobart at this point

If you are a big city lover then take Hobart off your list (and to a certain extent Brisbane)
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:00 am

Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 5):
If you are a big city lover then take Hobart off your list (and to a certain extent Brisbane)

Well I don't mean big city as in "it has to be 2 million people", I just mean we aren't into going to cottages in small towns, or B&B's...that sort of thing. We want a city and not a village or smaller town.
 
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:40 am

Quoting SW733 (Thread starter):
as well as maybe taking the cheap Aerolineas Argentinas flight over to Auckland.

Don't spend too much time in AKL its the worst place in New Zealand. I suggest you head down to Taupo, Rototrua and Wellington or up north to Whangerei, Kaitia and Cape Rienga though its not much of the big city experience
 
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:45 am

You can do all the touristy places like SYD and the Gold Coast and then.....

...Come to ADL Big grin

Really...there are so many things to do here..the wine tours, kangaroo island, see the penguins and the koalas.
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:49 am

Quoting SW733 (Reply 4):
Actually, I am going to Nowra to be exact, I just didn't know how many people knew it, so I put up Wollongong since it's fairly close.

If you dont mind me asking, are you in the Navy? The whole Shoalhaven area is a Navy area (Wollongong, Nowra, Jervis Bay).

If you're choices are down to Hobart and Brisbane, then take the train up to SYD and get on DJ flight up here! You will have a great time, especially if you can spare about 4-5 days. The weather is nice and mild and it is the start of the soccer (football) season and cricket will be at the 'Gabba in November!

If you do decide to pay a visit to my lovely city, let me know, would be more than happy to grab a beer or few with you and your girlfriend.
 
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:54 am

Quoting BNEFlyer (Reply 9):
If you dont mind me asking, are you in the Navy? The whole Shoalhaven area is a Navy area (Wollongong, Nowra, Jervis Bay).

No, I am an aerospace engineer, but I will be working at NAS Nowra with the Australian Navy.

Quoting BNEFlyer (Reply 9):
If you do decide to pay a visit to my lovely city, let me know, would be more than happy to grab a beer or few with you and your girlfriend.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind!
 
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:26 am

Another vote for Adelaide, the coolest place no one's ever heard of (well, outside of Oz, anyway... come to think of it, it seemed almost as it Syneysiders scarcely knew it existed, either!).

So much to do, and nicer folks you simply cannot hope to find.
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:04 am

Quoting SW733 (Reply 4):
Actually, I am going to Nowra to be exact, I just didn't know how many people knew it, so I put up Wollongong since it's fairly close.

They have an airshow in Nowra, at the NAS - I went down from Sydney to it, flew from Bankstown in a DC-3, it was extremely cool. At the airshow I went for a flight in a Tiger Moth, complete with leather flying helmet, very Biggles ! It was in October or November IIRC.
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:10 am

Quoting SCCutler (Reply 11):
Another vote for Adelaide, the coolest place no one's ever heard of

Mmm. Adelaide's delightfully pretty, but the City of Murderers isn't usually that high on the list of places to go for first time visitors because there isn't that much to do there compared to the obvious attractions.

That's why everyone piles into Sydney and then heads up to tropical Queensland to check out the rainforest and the reef. Somewhere like Adelaide is definitely well worth a visit, but if you're a first-timer, I might respectfully suggest that the obvious and touristy might be higher up the priority list.
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:00 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 12):
They have an airshow in Nowra, at the NAS - I went down from Sydney to it, flew from Bankstown in a DC-3, it was extremely cool.

Extremely cool !!!! Mate, that IS the ultimate way to go down there....done it a few times myself.  yes 

There used to be two airshows a year, April and October. Although just checking the official website HMAS Albatross, it looks like they haven't had the 2/year since 2005 and the last ones were in March06 and May07. No mention yet of the next one. Great aviation museum there as well.

Well, staying in Nowra, you're going to be close to Jervis Bay with fantastic white soft sand beaches. Further south to Ulladulla/Batemans Bay. Take a drive to Merry Beach and you'll see Kangaroos on the beach. You're here in our summer, you'll be in the right place. You do realise that Nowra is a 2-3 hour drive or train ride from Sydney. So while you're working at Albatross you might like to stick to checking out the local attractions - much better than Sydney (and I live in Sydney).

Shoalhaven tourism website.
 
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:13 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 13):
Mmm. Adelaide's delightfully pretty, but the City of Murderers isn't usually that high on the list of places to go for first time visitors because there isn't that much to do there compared to the obvious attractions.

Why, "City of Murderers"? (and I perhaps show my ignorance, here...)

Quoting Banco (Reply 13):
That's why everyone piles into Sydney and then heads up to tropical Queensland to check out the rainforest and the reef. Somewhere like Adelaide is definitely well worth a visit, but if you're a first-timer, I might respectfully suggest that the obvious and touristy might be higher up the priority list.

I surely would not propose ADL to the exclusion of defining places like Sydney, but I do think it is often-overlooked, and well worth visiting.
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:22 am

Quoting SCCutler (Reply 15):
Why, "City of Murderers"? (and I perhaps show my ignorance, here...)

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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:50 pm

Goodness. No wonder my extended relations in SA have not chosen to tell me these stories!

I still like it there, though!
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:57 pm

Come to Canberra. We have err.. um.. a few museums.
 
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:01 pm

I'll vote for Melbourne as it has an elegance that the other cities lack and it's easy to get great food and do good shopping there. It's also convenient for visiting other areas like Bendigo and the Bellarine Peninsula, Great Ocean Road, the Spa Country by train/bus on day trips if you don't want to hire a car.

Most locals I talk to regard Adelaide as dead boring. I have relatives there and have visited many, many times, but I think you have to travel to the coastline or inland to the Flinders Ranges to see the really nice bits of South Australia.

Berry is a nice little town quite close to Nowra (not big city stuff) and the train ride to Sydney is quite pretty, as is the coastal route from Wollongong. You should also consider visiting the Blue Mountains - dine out at the Post Office Restaurant in Leura.

Canberra is also quite close by. I love the place and there is plenty to see and do (unless you are a pub'n'club person I gather).

I haven't been to Auckland but would strongly recommend the South Island of New Zealand.
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:30 pm

Quoting SW733 (Reply 10):
but I will be working at NAS Nowra with the Australian Navy.

Wow. When are you going? I was meant to be going there in a couple of weeks but pulled out because I've already been there. Although I do know people that will be there. BTW, its just called HMAS Albatross and make sure you stay off the water (aka grass) or else they will throw you life ring.

Quoting Allrite (Reply 19):
Berry is a nice little town quite close to Nowra (not big city stuff) and the train ride to Sydney is quite pretty,

The train ride is good, although 3 hours on a city rail train isn't usually very fun but the scenery makes up for it.

As for another city I would suggest Melbourne. Close to Sydney but completely different. And the you have loads of flights from Sydney, at least every half hour. You could fly down on JQ, visit Geelong, catch the ferry across to Phillip Island and drive back to Melbourne. easily done is a weekend and very enjoyable. Then you fly back on DJ or QF.
 
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:24 pm

I am in the process of falling in love with SYD. To the point I am thinking of coming back sometime next year and converting my pilots license and ratings to australian licenses and applying for permanent residence status.
 
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:12 pm

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 20):
BTW, its just called HMAS Albatross and make sure you stay off the water (aka grass) or else they will throw you life ring.

Woops, yeah...I always screw that up. You'd think after all the times I've written HMAS Albatross on the FedEx shipping lables, etc. I'd know that!

Quoting Allrite (Reply 19):
I haven't been to Auckland but would strongly recommend the South Island of New Zealand

Well I just found out yesterday there is about a 50/50 chance I'll be going to New Zealand for work in April, so I think I might hold off on New Zealand and see if I can get there for free too  Smile

Well this is much better turnout than I expect, thanks guys!
 
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:15 pm

Alright I live in Brisbane and i can probably say its one of the best cities to live in the world. It isn't the biggest city no were near as big as Sydney, but it still has heaps of cool sites and things too see, not as good as the other big cities though. Other places in Queensland offer better attractions, sunshine coast is good, the gold coast is probably the best place to go to the beach in Australia. Cairns is also an awesome place for some tropical fun. If you want to go to the outback why not see the Ayres Rock, never been there but it looks pretty interesting. Canberra is also good holds heaps of museums of Australia and stuff, and has all the parliaments, been in a tour and its pretty interesting. No so sure about ADL and PER, but I'm sure they also have there own great attractions.

I am sure were ever you go in Australia i am sure you will enjoy it. Its such a wonderful country.

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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:37 am

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 21):
I am in the process of falling in love with SYD. To the point I am thinking of coming back sometime next year and converting my pilots license and ratings to australian licenses and applying for permanent residence status.

Yeah, see how *that* works out!

Australia is many things, but does not welcome foreign competitors for domestic jobs (nor should they).
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:21 pm

Quoting SCCutler (Reply 24):
Australia is many things, but does not welcome foreign competitors for domestic jobs (nor should they).

I'm sure if he has the correct qualifications the government will let him in no doubt. The pilot shortage is starting to hit although saying he wants to live in Sydney as a pilot may not go down quite aswell. All the governmental types are complaining about this pilot shortage, Mark Vaile, CAF AM Geoff Shepherd.
 
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:33 pm

Quoting SCCutler (Reply 24):

Yeah, see how *that* works out!

Australia is many things, but does not welcome foreign competitors for domestic jobs (nor should they).



Quoting QFA380 (Reply 25):
I'm sure if he has the correct qualifications the government will let him in no doubt. The pilot shortage is starting to hit although saying he wants to live in Sydney as a pilot may not go down quite aswell. All the governmental types are complaining about this pilot shortage, Mark Vaile, CAF AM Geoff Shepherd.

Pilots have been removed from the critical shortage list, so they do not receive any points towards the points test. From the little research I have done, it seems there is a quite a shortage in Australia and that it may be added back on. I have a backup though as I have 4 years experience as a sales manager which earns me 50 points.
 
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:40 pm

Quoting SCCutler (Reply 24):
Australia is many things, but does not welcome foreign competitors for domestic jobs (nor should they).

....And the Australian Government have just added Aircraft Engineers to the Migrant Occupants Demand List.

SW733. Say g'day to the boys at Pel-Air if you get the chance whilst at Nowra. If you ask nicely, they may take you on a target towing sorte in a Lear or Westwind. 500knts, 200 feet off the ocean...buzzing an Australian (or other) war ship.....awesome!
 
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RE: Australia - Where To Go?

Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:09 am

Quoting Tbanger (Reply 27):
SW733. Say g'day to the boys at Pel-Air if you get the chance whilst at Nowra. If you ask nicely, they may take you on a target towing sorte in a Lear or Westwind. 500knts, 200 feet off the ocean...buzzing an Australian (or other) war ship.....awesome!

Ohhhh boy. I won't tell my girlfriend, but that sounds better than...well, I won't say it...it sounds awesome!  Smile

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