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Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:21 am

I will admit that I am not a fan of luxury pick up trucks, but there is something about the Honda Rigdeline that make wonder should Acura make there own version of the it? So could you see an Acura version of the Rigeline on the road, and if so, should they wait until Honda finish working on there new V8, that supposed to go into the next generation Acura RL and Rigdeline?
 
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:27 am

I do not consider the Rigdeline a pick up truck in any way. I doubt making an Acura version would be a decent seller enough to compensate it's costs.
 
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:35 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 1):
I do not consider the Rigdeline a pick up truck in any way.

How is this NOT a pickup?

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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:51 pm

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 2):
How is this NOT a pickup?

The Ridgeline is front-wheel drive, and is basically a Honda Odyssey minivan with a bed. And I'm pretty sure the Odyssey is based on the Accord. The Ridgeline is in no way a pickup.
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:59 pm

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 2):
How is this NOT a pickup?

..............because it's basically a car with a tall body and a bed?

Face it - the Ridgeline is NOT a truck.

 redflag  1 - front wheel drive or all wheel drive
 redflag  2 - car suspension (4 wheel independent)
 redflag  3 - unibody frame
 redflag  4 - low towing capacity
 redflag  5 - no V8
 redflag  6 - transversely mounted engine
 redflag  7 - it's a HONDA

I could go on...............it's not a truck. Not a real one.

This is a truck:






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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:09 pm

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 4):
I could go on...............it's not a truck. Not a real one.

Good enough for me. I didn't realize it was so fake. Thanks.
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:18 pm

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 5):
Good enough for me. I didn't realize it was so fake. Thanks.

No problem sir!

BTW - the new GM trucks are amazing. I want one badly.




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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:33 pm

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 6):
BTW - the new GM trucks are amazing. I want one badly.

I'd like to trade my 2001 Ford Explorer Sport Trac for this one. But that'll never happen.

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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:34 pm

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 7):
I'd like to trade my 2001 Ford Explorer Sport Trac for this one. But that'll never happen.

The new Explorers are really nice too. Only complaint I have is the lack of a dash-mounted gear shifter.

Ford, stop trying to make your trucks look like cars inside.



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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:36 pm

Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
but there is something about the Honda Rigdeline that make wonder should Acura make there own version of the it?

That would be almost as stupid as having Lincoln or Caddilac make a pickup.
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:39 pm

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 9):
That would be almost as stupid as having Lincoln or Caddilac make a pickup.

Yeah - business wise it's smart though.

People are stupid enough to pay $20000 extra for a different grill, leather heated seats, some more chrome, and a nav system when they buy a Cadillac/Lincoln truck over a Chevy/Ford truck.




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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:18 pm

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 4):

While I certainly agree it's hardly a truck, I have to disagree with two points.

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 4):
no V8

Not having a V8 doesn't mean a thing, and that goes both ways. First, there are plenty of V6 trucks on the market that pack similar power to weight/size ratio compared to that of larger trucks equipped with V8's. Not everyone is in the market for such large, powerful trucks. Second, are you suggesting that a Dodge Ram equipped with a Cummins diesel, or a Chevy with a Duramax is not a "truck"?

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 4):
it's a HONDA

You know just as well as I this doesn't mean a thing. Honda can build a real truck if they please. One that would likely surpass any American model, kind of like a Toyota Tundra. However, for whatever reason, it's just not their market.


As for the Acrua version of the Ridgleline, I seriously hope not. Nothing pisses me off more than those garbage-on-wheels Lincoln Mark LT trucks. I don't want to see Acura follow. Trucks are just not meant to be that luxurious. If they are, can we use the same logic and expect to see a Corvette with 4x4? Buuuuuttttt......

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 10):

Yeah - business wise it's smart though.

Unfortunately,

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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:34 pm

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 11):
Not having a V8 doesn't mean a thing, and that goes both ways. First, there are plenty of V6 trucks on the market that pack the same ratio of big power for their size compared to that of larger trucks equipped with V8's. Not everyone is in the market for such large, powerful trucks. Second, are you suggesting that a Dodge Ram equipped with a Cummins diesel, or a Chevy with a Duramax is not a "truck"?

I'll go ahead and retract for that.  Smile

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 11):
You know just as well as I this doesn't mean a thing. Honda can build a real truck if they please. One that would likely surpass any American model, kind of like a Toyota Tundra. However, for whatever reason, it's just not their market.

Oh I know - I was just feeding Honda some of their own medicine with that one. I'm sick of hearing their smug advertising "buy it because it's a Honda" all over the place.




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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:48 pm

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 12):
Oh I know - I was just feeding Honda some of their own medicine with that one. I'm sick of hearing their smug advertising "buy it because it's a Honda" all over the place.

True. One nit pick I have with the Ridgeline I forgot to mention... Did you know the genius Honda engineers placed the spare tire in a compartment under the bed of the truck....not accessible from underneath? Meaning if you got a flat and had a full payload, while not much by standards, would be a total pain in the ass to fix. But hey, it's still a Honda right?  Wink
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:24 pm

Did anybody else notice how the Ridgeline looks like a bastardized version of the Chevy Avalanche?
 
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:35 pm

Quoting CasasEWR (Reply 14):
Ridgeline looks like a bastardized version of the Chevy Avalanche

Yes. But a Chevy Crapalanche is a bastardized version of a pickup. It's all plastic.

http://www.hotrodsbygreg.com/images/graphics/pic009.jpg

http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/magazine/images/2007chevyavalanche/2007ChevyAvalancheCargoBoxMidgateFolded01FixedSmall.jpg
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:28 am

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 4):
3 - unibody frame

Nope....it does have ladder frame, it is actually a mix of unibody construction on top of a latter frame.........the Ridgeline was actually developed using ideas that first came up in GM, when GM did not apply them the engineers that came up with those ideas went on to work for Honda.
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:11 am

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 11):
Corvette with 4x4




How about a Lamborghini?


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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:02 am

I hope not. It would be a Fad meaning a good seller at first, but a slow seller in the long run.

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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:31 am

Did not get me wrong I dislike luxury pick up truck myself, but the Rigdeline is such a beautifully vehicle, that it would be interesting to see an Acura version of it.
 
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:33 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 17):
How about a Lamborghini?

How about an International MXT?



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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:03 am

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 19):
beautifully

I must correct myself. I meant beautiful.
 
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:40 pm

I would say there is about a 1% chance of seeing an Acura version of the Ridgeline. The Cadillac and Lincoln trucks have been rather poor performers. Combined with the fact that the Ridgeline's sales figures have not been all that great and I think you see where I am going.

I think some people cannot get past the stigmas mentioned above. Which is a shame because for most people, IMHO, the Ridgeline is the perfect truck. It drives so well. The V6 feels slightly underpowered but not enough to give up gas mileage to pickup a V8.

Quoting ABQ747 (Reply 3):
The Ridgeline is front-wheel drive, and is basically a Honda Odyssey minivan with a bed. And I'm pretty sure the Odyssey is based on the Accord. The Ridgeline is in no way a pickup.

Actually the Ridgeline is a completely new platform. It shares an engine with the Odyssey/Pilot except it lacks VCM. That's about it. Honda has a V8 and a new diesel engine in development. I think they will make the Ridgeline much more competitive.

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 13):
True. One nit pick I have with the Ridgeline I forgot to mention... Did you know the genius Honda engineers placed the spare tire in a compartment under the bed of the truck....not accessible from underneath? Meaning if you got a flat and had a full payload, while not much by standards, would be a total pain in the ass to fix. But hey, it's still a Honda right?

There is a mount at the front of the bed where you can quickly mount the spare tire if you intend on carrying a full payload. I moved it for a customer once and it took me about 4 minutes to pull the tire out and bolt it to the bed.
 
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:33 pm

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 22):
There is a mount at the front of the bed where you can quickly mount the spare tire if you intend on carrying a full payload. I moved it for a customer once and it took me about 4 minutes to pull the tire out and bolt it to the bed.

How much space is lost in the bed when placing the tire in the bed? That just seems like a whole pain in the ass to me, pulling it out, mounting/bolting to bed, and losing room.
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:26 am

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 23):
How much space is lost in the bed when placing the tire in the bed? That just seems like a whole pain in the ass to me, pulling it out, mounting/bolting to bed, and losing room.

No more than you would lose by having the wheel wells protrude the bed as you do in the Ford F-series pickups.
 
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:43 pm

Is this a "post a picture of your truck" thread? OK, I'm in:

Now that's a REAL truck!

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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:56 am

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 4):
Face it - the Ridgeline is NOT a truck.

1 - front wheel drive or all wheel drive
2 - car suspension (4 wheel independent)
3 - unibody frame
4 - low towing capacity
5 - no V8
6 - transversely mounted engine
7 - it's a HONDA

Ooooppssss!!!!!

New GM CUV planning to take on the Honda Ridgeline

Inside Line has got the, ummm, inside line on Chevrolet's future CUV offerings, and the big news is that GM's suppliers are saying a "crossover pickup" is in the cards. A four-door crew cab version in the same vein as the Honda Ridgeline is planned with both a sizable bed and an all-wheel-drive option.

In addition, the Equinox will be redesigned for 2010, receiving a bit more length to accommodate seven passengers atop the Theta-Epsilon platform, while the eight-passenger Chevy Traverse based on the Lambda platform will fill the hole left by the exiting Uplander.

A smaller CUV built off the Gamma platform still hasn't been approved, but if all goes according to plan, it'll be built in Lordstown, Ohio or Mexico and should go on sale sometime in 2012.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/05/n...ng-to-take-on-the-honda-ridgeline/
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:17 am

Quoting Marcus (Reply 26):
A four-door crew cab version in the same vein as the Honda Ridgeline is planned with both a sizable bed and an all-wheel-drive option.

You mean something other than the Colorado, Avalanche, and Silverado?

Quoting Marcus (Reply 26):
while the eight-passenger Chevy Traverse based on the Lambda platform will fill the hole left by the exiting Uplander.

What hole? The Uplander never generated enough sales to leave a 'hole.'
 
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:36 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 15):
Yes. But a Chevy Crapalanche is a bastardized version of a pickup. It's all plastic.

The new one has ditched the plastic. It is basically a Suburban with an open back and the ability to open up the rear seats.

Honda isn't going to make the Ridgeline into a luxury vehicle. There is simply no market for it.
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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:27 pm

Quoting Marcus (Reply 26):
Ooooppssss!!!!!

New GM CUV planning to take on the Honda Ridgeline

Inside Line has got the, ummm, inside line on Chevrolet's future CUV offerings, and the big news is that GM's suppliers are saying a "crossover pickup" is in the cards. A four-door crew cab version in the same vein as the Honda Ridgeline is planned with both a sizable bed and an all-wheel-drive option.

In addition, the Equinox will be redesigned for 2010, receiving a bit more length to accommodate seven passengers atop the Theta-Epsilon platform, while the eight-passenger Chevy Traverse based on the Lambda platform will fill the hole left by the exiting Uplander.

A smaller CUV built off the Gamma platform still hasn't been approved, but if all goes according to plan, it'll be built in Lordstown, Ohio or Mexico and should go on sale sometime in 2012.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/05/n...line/

What do you mean, oops? If they go forward with it, it won't be a truck either. The Equinox/Torrent/Vue are not trucks either.




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RE: Chances Of A Rigdeline Base Acura

Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:47 pm

Quoting Queso (Reply 25):
Is this a "post a picture of your truck" thread? OK, I'm in:

Now that's a REAL truck!

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h5...7.jpg

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