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NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:05 pm

The monster 2.66 mile "The Big One" Dega is featuring her first COT race this weekend!

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/.element/img/2.0/sect/races/tracks/tal/track_bg.jpg

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NASCAR: Kansas 29/36

Previous winners:

Daytona: Kevin Harvick
California: Matt Kenseth
Las Vegas: Jimmie Johnson
Atlanta: Jimmie Johnson
Bristol: Kyle Busch
Martinsville: Jimmie Johnson
Texas: Jeff Burton
Phoenix: Jeff Gordon
Talladega: Jeff Gordon
Richmond: Jimmie Johnson
Darlington: Jeff Gordon
Lowe's: Casey Mears
Dover: Martin Truex Jr.
Pocono: Jeff Gordon
Michigan: Carl Edwards
Infineon: Juan Montoya
New Hampshire: Denny Hamlin
Daytona: Jamie McMurray
Chicagoland: Tony Stewart
Indianapolis: Tony Stewart
Pocono: Kurt Busch
Watkins Glen: Tony Stewart
Michigan: Kurt Busch
Bristol: Carl Edwards
California: Jimmie Johnson
Richmond: Jimmie Johnson
New Hampshire: Clint Bowyer
Kansas: Jimmie Johnson

Standings:
1 Jimmie Johnson 5506
2 Jeff Gordon 5500
3 Clint Bowyer 5492
4 Tony Stewart 5389
5 Kevin Harvick 5380
6 Kyle Busch 5370
7 Carl Edwards 5364
8 Martin Truex Jr. 5348
9 Kurt Busch 5329
10 Jeff Burton 5320
11 Matt Kenseth 5287
12 Denny Hamlin 5258

News:

COTs ready, Chase drivers brace for 'Dega unknowns

IndyCar champ Franchitti inks Cup deal with Ganassi

M&M's will sponsor Busch on Gibbs' No. 18 Toyota

#18 Kyle Busch is a peanut head!  rotfl 

Eury ready to hand over 8 car reins to Gibson

Personally I want to see Jeff Gordan win... This is his year and I wish him the best at dega,
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:09 pm

Fantastic research for this weeks Nascar thread.  yes 

I like the articles.

I got money on either Jr or Hamlin to win this weeks dance.  checkeredflag 

Please don't wreck anyone this week Stewart.  Yeah sure
 
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:10 am

It should be a good race. I am interested to see what the COT will do at a superspeedway.

Also, Greg Biffle won the race last week @ Kansas.

Go Smoke!

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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:37 am

Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 2):
Also, Greg Biffle won the race last week @ Kansas.

LOL... oops. Forgot he still even drove a cup car.
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:54 am

Quote:
LOL... oops. Forgot he still even drove a cup car.

LMAO! Its been forever since he won. I actually think The Biff is one of the best drivers in Nascar Today. For the past 2 years he has had junk equipment from the almighty Roush Empire.

Who's your driver?

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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:49 pm

I hoping for Jacques Villeneuve to make the race. Listening to his "NASCAR 101" lesson at the Vegas Truck race, if he makes the show it will be very interesting to see how he performs. He might set the record for being the most laps down with an undamaged racecar  Smile

Big, slow, heavy COT at Dega....could be a snoozer on Sunday.
 
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:07 pm

Quoting Boeingfever777 (Thread starter):

Dude, thanks, I totally forgot about it.

Quoting National757 (Reply 5):
I hoping for Jacques Villeneuve to make the race

I kind of hope he doesn't. If your Cup debut is in a chase race, that might stir some trouble, plus if it's at Talledega...
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:01 pm

Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 4):
For the past 2 years he has had junk equipment from the almighty Roush Empire.

100% agree!  checkmark 

I'm sure the same can be said for Dale Jr. over at DEI and their engine dept.
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:50 pm

Wow... Junior just predicted a victory for himself tomorrow on Speed's qualifying broadcast...

"I don't really condone betting, but I'm gonna win Sunday. I feel pretty good about it.. I don't think anybody know as much about it as I do, but I feel like this car's good enough. So we got the confidence part, we just have to get out there and physically get it done."

That's really out of character for him...
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:31 pm

Utterly farcical qualifying session.

NASCAR made this an impound race, so all of the go-or-go-homers had qualifying setups on the car simply to get in, while all the guaranteed-entry drivers had regular race setups. (the cars are impounded after qualifying... you can't make setup changes)

The top 11 - and 13 of the top 15 - qualifiers on speed were go or go homers, but only 8 of those make the race. So AJ Allmendinger, Boris Said, and Scott Riggs, who were 9-10-11 on the speed charts, go home.

The old qualifying system was SOOOOOO much better....
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:02 pm

What does everybody think of the seemingly imminent exodus of drivers from open wheel into NASCAR? Montoya & Allmendinger are here, Villeneuve & Franchitti are coming, Hornish is toying with the idea, Dixon and Wheldon have talked about it. And what has Scott Speed done (besides his unsuccessful F1 ride) to prompt interest from owners in a Cup ride?

The only thing I don't like is that it's going to bump guys out of rides who have spent their entire careers in stock cars, such as Jeff Green, Johnny Sauter, David Stremme, etc. Another thing that the media has seemed to forget is that two other open wheelers have entered NASCAR & bailed out soon after, namely Christian Fittipaldi & Paul Tracy.

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 9):
Utterly farcical qualifying session.

NASCAR made this an impound race, so all of the go-or-go-homers had qualifying setups on the car simply to get in, while all the guaranteed-entry drivers had regular race setups. (the cars are impounded after qualifying... you can't make setup changes)

The top 11 - and 13 of the top 15 - qualifiers on speed were go or go homers, but only 8 of those make the race. So AJ Allmendinger, Boris Said, and Scott Riggs, who were 9-10-11 on the speed charts, go home.

The old qualifying system was SOOOOOO much better....

Sam Hornish was 13th, Sterling Marlin 17th. Both those guys missed & had top 20 qualifying efforts. It's the Pepsi 400 all over again, only a monsoon didn't show up late in qualifying this time.

This is why the top 35 rule sucks, and needs to go as quickly as possible. I wish they'd bring back the old system. Take the top 38 in qualifying based on SPEED, then give out 5 provisionals based on points. Unfortunately, Brian France & the heads at NASCAR don't realize that there are, once again, more than 35 fully funded teams that show up each week. That rule was designed when there were start & park guys showing up every week to fill the field & a couple of them upstaged Scott Riggs & Scott Wimmer at Charlotte, both teams missing the field with big dollar sponsorships (Valvoline & CAT, respectively).
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:26 am

And the pole goes to...

55 Michael Waltrip Toyota NAPA Auto Parts 189.070 50.648 Leader

Impound race... He will be going home once they find he cheated to sit the pole.  duck 
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:31 am

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 11):
He will be going home once they find he cheated to sit the pole.

You could be right!  flamed 

Top six qualifiers were Toyota...wtf?  confused 
 
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:46 am

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 11):
Impound race... He will be going home once they find he cheated to sit the pole.



Quoting FXramper (Reply 12):
Top six qualifiers were Toyota...wtf?

They must have put some jet fuel like substance in the tank.
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:12 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 12):
Top six qualifiers were Toyota...wtf?

Al of them were go-or-go-homers, and all had qualifying setups on the car simply to get in the race. With the impound, all the contenders had regular race setups on the car.

The go-or-go-homers will fall like stones once the race starts.

That said, the Toyotas are not short on top-end horsepower by any means... they put a bunch of cars on a dyno after Atlanta, and the highest power was... 799hp by Dale Jarrett's Toyota

http://www.jayski.com/pages/enginerules.htm

(9th story down... FOX Sports link to original story does not work, unfortunately)

They've lacked mid-range power all year, which is why they haven't been good at Dover, Phoenix, New Hampshire, Richmond, etc
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:24 am

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 10):
Montoya & Allmendinger are here, Villeneuve & Franchitti are coming, Hornish is toying with the idea, Dixon and Wheldon have talked about it. And what has Scott Speed done (besides his unsuccessful F1 ride) to prompt interest from owners in a Cup ride?

Don't forget about Patrick Carpentier that will likely drive the GEM #10 Car next season.

I think the open wheel invasion into NASCAR is a good thing for the sport. It just proves there is no bigger series than NASCAR right now.

I wish these guys would do one year of Busch first..to get accustomed to the Cup cars. With the COT rolling out full time in 2008 and having basically nothing in common with the Busch car, it is understandable the open wheel drivers skip Busch and go straight to Cup. Maybe they can run a few CTS races? Since the Truck Series' trucks drive more like the COT from what I hear...

Go Jacques tomorrow! I hope he causes the big one and takes out Jeff Gordon Big grin
 
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:10 am

Quoting National757 (Reply 15):
Go Jacques tomorrow! I hope he causes the big one and takes out Jeff Gordon

Your statement clearly shows you have no clue about the sport and you route for drivers that clearly make their debut at tracks they should not and have no talent driving at.

You make it even more clear that you do not know shit.... Your Boyfriend "Villeneuve" starts 6th,,, Gordan 34th. I think that someone that has 4 Championship Cups and won the spring race has abit more smarts and driver ability than someone that has only sat in a cup car as of Thursday. I mean come on your driver is JPM/Busch Bros... clear losers!
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:51 am

 
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:00 pm

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 16):
Quoting National757 (Reply 15):
Go Jacques tomorrow! I hope he causes the big one and takes out Jeff Gordon

Your statement clearly shows you have no clue about the sport and you route for drivers that clearly make their debut at tracks they should not and have no talent driving at.

Yup.

. . . . . .

Alas I will be 'watching' this race from my office on the computer . . . damnit.

But I'm sure the phone will be ringing, Jackie is going to be planted in front of the big screen cursing Stewart and all things Toyota and rooting for that boy Gordon . . .  silly 
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:31 pm

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 10):
What does everybody think of the seemingly imminent exodus of drivers from open wheel into NASCAR? Montoya & Allmendinger are here, Villeneuve & Franchitti are coming, Hornish is toying with the idea, Dixon and Wheldon have talked about it. And what has Scott Speed done (besides his unsuccessful F1 ride) to prompt interest from owners in a Cup ride?

At the American Le Mans Series' Petit Le Mans race @ Road Atlanta yesterday, this was a popular topic around the paddock.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/pr...on/2007/10/07/lemansnotes1007.html

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The recent migration of several big-name open-wheel drivers to NASCAR was a topic of discussion in the paddock at Road Atlanta on Saturday before the start of the 10th annual Petit Le Mans.

Bobby Rahal, a team owner and former driver, said he believes one of the main reasons drivers such as Dario Franchitti, Scott Speed and Jacques Villeneuve were at Talladega this weekend is financial.

"NASCAR is where the money is right now," Rahal said, adding that many open-wheel veterans also see NASCAR as a more stable circuit with heavier but much safer cars.

Look at the kind of money NASCAR generates, ChampCar and the IRL would love to be making that kind of money. The split between (at the time) CART and the IRL squashed those chances. NASCAR exploded in popularity right about the time the split in open-wheel racing occurred. NASCAR is so popular that racetracks are being proposed in many parts of the country sole to attract a NASCAR race. This could be a bad thing for NASCAR, as some of the older and smaller tracks may end up losing race dates or be bumped from the schedule altogether (Rockingham, North Wilkesboro). ISC could potentially drop dates @ RIR and/or Martinsville down the road if they do build their proposed track in Colorado. SMI has long wanted a second date @ LVMS, so who knows, they could buy out one of the few non-ISC or SMI tracks left in NASCAR (Pocono, Dover, New Hampshire) and drop a date (or in the case of NHIS, the only date) so they can have a second Las Vegas race.
 
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:37 pm

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 19):
if they do build their proposed track in Colorado.

Talk about a nightmare as far as getting the COT to breathe in that high altitude...
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:25 pm

Why is NASCAR so unknown here in Europe!! Here everyone just talks about F1....
But thank god tomorrow will be a replay of the race in Talladega on my TV.

looking forward to...
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:12 pm

This isn't where I parked my car...
 
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:40 pm

Now Junior's engine just f***ing blew....shit...
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:54 pm

And we have "The Big One".

Appears LaBonte blew a tire and took out a bunch of 'em. Still sorting it out.

Smoke is OK, so the rest don't matter  silly 
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:53 pm

#24 is the Winner!  checkeredflag 
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:07 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 24):
Smoke is OK,

Not only just okay..good enough to push the 24 to victory. Big grin
 
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:57 pm

Gordon won, picks up his 80th win & the points lead! 5th win of the season, but more importantly (IMO)...

...he beat that teammate of his. I figured he (Jeff) would play good soldier in 2nd & pretend to take a look on the last lap, but he went & took it for himself. Awesome.

If the 24 & 48 are still the top 2 in points going into Homestead, remember that pass. That could very well be the difference in the title the way things have gone so far in the Chase.
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:36 pm

3/4 Hendrick cars are in the top 6

Dave Blaney puts his Toyota up in third place Big grin Go Dave!

Both Penske cars finished in the top 10

Tony Raines and Reed Sorenson get 9th and 10th place finishes, which is good for Raines since he is looking for a ride for next year

Johnny Sauter and Jeff Green finish 12th and 13th. Scott Riggs is going to Haas CNC next year to fill in for one of those two, so Sauter and Green are trying to get the best finishes possible so they can stay in their ride for next year.

Jacques Villeneuve finishes 21st, not too shabby for his debut

Earnhardt Jr, Truex Jr, and Burton, all chasers, blow engines and finish 40th or worse


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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:42 am

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 28):
Jacques Villeneuve finishes 21st, not too shabby for his debut

Because 22nd-43rd were out of the race or way to many laps down...

Only smart thing he did was drop to the back of the field before the start of the race and stayed there. He wrecked in the truck race and only did not in CUP cause he was last out of the cars still driving!

Only open wheel driver that should be allowed to race CUP is Stewart... Why? He is a badass and has 2 Championships and is a proven converted driver.
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:29 am

Glad to see Gordo still has the need for speed.  checkeredflag 
 
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RE: NASCAR: Talladega 30/36

Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:20 pm

The Toyotas actually ran pretty well.
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