Beaucaire
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Sarkozy's Wife On The Run?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:33 am

It seems France will soon be without it's "first Lady"...
Cécilia Sarkozy has basically disappeared from public life,does not intervene -as previously-in foreign politics any longer and seems to have vanished...
The initial media-hype regarding her escapades into Libya,Bulgaria and snubbing a grill-party with Bush ( she preferred shopping in the holiday resort instead ..) makes place for headlines announcing her departure from the "menage"..
The Spanish-born Cécilia has never made any secret about her dislike of politics and her status as "president's wife".
Seems the Hungarian-Spanish couple will go through another separation..
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RE: Sarkozy's Wife On The Run?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:44 am

Hmmm...  scratchchin 

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RE: Sarkozy's Wife On The Run?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:39 am

It is not a secret for anybody in the Paris "microcosm", that Cecila and Sarkozy are no more a "real" couple, and for a long time.
Even if France is not the US, Sarkozy needed a wife by his side during the presidential campaign and it is at that time that the "new deal" between the two was signed.

Just like Ségolène and F.Hollande announced their "divorce" after the election, it is now more than obvious that Cecilia is more than bored by this role of "First Lady" beside Sarko. Just look at her face during the "garden party" at the Elysee Palace and the feeling of disgust after Sarko give her a kiss and you will understand.

But After all, the French Elected Sarkozy for President, not Cecilia. The French need a President, not a "First Lady".
It is too bad that Politicians, still seem to believe they need to give an image of the perfect happy couple in their private life ...
 
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RE: Sarkozy's Wife On The Run?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:21 pm

While we vote for the politician, not their spouse, in many societies voters like to see their politicians be 'family' men, with a spouse. Voters are suspicious, although less than in the past, of unmarried or currently divorced or separated politicians. There is often the need for the highest level politicians to have a spouse who will be at their side at major appearances like dinners or can stand in for them to attend at functions to promote minor social issues. That is especially important with the USA's President and state Governors.
Of course the spouse could be a same gender partner now, or a male to a female politician, almost all female partners of a male politician will be University educated so things are going to change. We have seen female spouses of high level politicians be an asset to a politician, sometimes they can be a real pain, getting unwanted attention or causing hassles like in this case.
 
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RE: Sarkozy's Wife On The Run?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:35 pm

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 2):
But After all, the French Elected Sarkozy for President, not Cecilia. The French need a President, not a "First Lady".

I tend to agree -but the case of Mr. Sarkozy de Nagy-Bocsa and Cécilia María Sara Isabel Ciganer-Albéniz is a little bit more complicated..
He clearly is going though some kind of Freudian trauma whenever the subject touches his (still) spouse.
In France no minister is currently authorized to be taken by photo with his /her spouse ! Nicolas is under strong emotional influence tied to the whereabouts of his wife and her demonstrative liberty to do what she wants.
She accepted to remain his wife after her departure for New York,where she lived another life with another person-so be it..
Nobody really cares about the private life or relational environment of politicians in France.But Nicolas is an extremely emotional person and should his spouses emotional extravaganzas harm his mood, we all in France will feel it sooner or later !
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RE: Sarkozy's Wife On The Run?

Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:36 pm

Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
Cécilia Sarkozy has basically disappeared from public life,does not intervene

Was Mme Chirac always in the spotlight?

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 2):
It is not a secret for anybody in the Paris "microcosm",

Of which you are a part of I presume

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 4):
He clearly is going though some kind of Freudian trauma whenever the subject touches his (still) spouse.

Street-level psych anaysis Beaucaire come on you can do better

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 4):
Nobody really cares about the private life or relational environment of politicians in France

Well the above shows that you of all people quite care about it!

Quoting Aloges (Reply 1):
Hmmm...

I share the tongue in cheek lol!


Looks like the anti-Sarko crowd tries to apply scrutiny to his private life. Fine. But the level of the argumentation illustrates the arguer quite a bit, watch out.

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RE: Sarkozy's Wife On The Run?

Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:11 pm

The issue with Cécilia is somewhat different than -say-Bernadete Chirac - who always accepted somehow to play the traditional role as "épouse du président"..
Cécilia has participated in the selection of key-staff in the cabinet.Rachida Dati (Justice Minister ) or the president's spokesman are her choices -among others. So either she gets involved in politics and HR issues and takes on that responsibility,or she doesn't and then she should not have gotten herself into such exposed situations.
Once you start making international state-travels ,negotiate with high-ranking politicians,try to sort out issues ,decide on people's fate - and all off a sudden you vanish in nature ????
I'm not against her playing that particular role - but she should fulfill it !
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RE: Sarkozy's Wife On The Run?

Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:29 pm

Ahem.

Cecilia Sarkozy tries to have a public life and role as France's first lady, what happens ?
'Everybody' says it's not her role, she should remain in the background and not show herself, and hand back this credit card.

A few weeks later, she has enough of it, and does not show herself anymore, what happens ?
'Everybody' says she is fleeing from her public role, and that she is cheating on her husband.

So please, 'Everybody' give the lady a break, and come back when you've decide what the role of the spouse of a president is.

As for the 'cheating on her husband part', well... who cares ?

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RE: Sarkozy's Wife On The Run?

Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:44 pm

The well informed are saying that Cecilia S. has "escaped" with writer Marc Levy.
At one time she had "escaped" with businessman Richard Attias.

I am not a fan of either Nicolas or Cecilia Sarkozy.
Whether or not they are together makes no difference for me.

Bernadette Chirac is an old fashioned conservative. She comes from a high end aristocratic family. Her maiden name was Chaudron de Courcel. She is truly brilliant intellectually. She obtained far better grades in the E.N.A. than her husband Jacques Chirac. The school is where they met and then married.

I do not think Cecilia Sarkozy has such a brilliant academic background.
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RE: Sarkozy's Wife On The Run?

Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:46 am

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 8):
I do not think Cecilia Sarkozy has such a brilliant academic background.

Certainly not. She si just a (good) opportunist.

Quoting 707cmf (Reply 7):
and hand back this credit card.

Credit Card related to a Public funds bank account she was using for peronnal and private buys.
 
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RE: Sarkozy's Wife On The Run?

Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:42 pm

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RE: Sarkozy's Wife On The Run?

Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:27 pm

I find the difference in attitudes between the US and French media striking in that the only quote included in the Reuters article from a politician is:

Quote:
Education Minister Xavier Darcos told France Info radio on Wednesday he did not know what was going on, but added: "I always find it very sad to see that love can fall apart."

http://www.reuters.com/article/world...&feedName=worldNews&rpc=22&sp=true

It's a touching sentiment for what has to be a difficult time for all involved.
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RE: Sarkozy's Wife On The Run?

Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:54 pm

The word is that Cecilia María Sara Isabel Ciganer-Albeniz and her President husband went together to see a judge today iin order to "materialize their separation".

http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/actua...e_leur_separation__no_comment.html

http://www.lexpress.fr/info/quotidien/actu.asp?id=14777
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RE: Sarkozy's Wife On The Run?

Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:46 pm

The end of mis marriage has officially been announced.......

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...l?xml=/news/2007/10/18/wfra318.xml

This marriage ended 2 years ago already but I'm sure they got back together just for the presidential campaign

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RE: Sarkozy's Wife On The Run?

Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:49 pm

Yes just so they could fool the voters a bit more and they jumped right into it!
I could never understand how anyone could vote for Sarkozy...

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 13):
I'm sure they got back together just for the presidential campaign
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