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F1 2007: Brazil

Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:53 am

Alright Guys...the last thread was getting a bit long, and Brazil is just over a week out.

Things seem to be getting really interesting, with both Toyota and Renault interested in Alonso.

Not even to mention all the excitement building up around the final race...

Who's going to take the Driver's Championship?...Does anyone think Hamilton will take it?


P.S. Can someone post a Lap around interlagos?...I'm at work and Youtube is blocked here...

I'm getting kinda excited, as A. The race will be live here...in the daytime..no more waking up at 2 am to watch races for this year...Plus...Interlagos is one of my favourite circuits.
 
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:58 am



Quoting BlueElephant (Thread starter):
Who's going to take the Driver's Championship?...Does anyone think Hamilton will take it?

Alonso.

Quoting BlueElephant (Thread starter):

Things seem to be getting really interesting, with both Toyota and Renault interested in Alonso.

If anything it will be Renault. He'll get what he wants there.
 
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:34 pm

Quoting BlueElephant (Thread starter):
Things seem to be getting really interesting, with both Toyota and Renault interested in Alonso.

I hope he goes back to renault where he belongs, although i am a Mclaren/Alonso fan i was delighted when
i heard he was coming to Mclaren but i always had a doubt in my mind about it being the right move for him,
so i reckon Flavio will have an open chequebook to get him back.



Quoting BlueElephant (Thread starter):
Who's going to take the Driver's Championship?...Does anyone think Hamilton will take it?

No, Alonso will deliver.
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:21 pm

Quoting BlueElephant (Thread starter):
Who's going to take the Driver's Championship?...

I really hope Kimi takes it, but that is really hard.

Btu between Hamilton/Alonso I think Alonso will win. To good for Hamilton.
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:24 pm

Okey, this was what I can continue with from the Chines F1 thread.

Alonso has signed a letter of intent to rejoin Renault for next season.

Here is a link:

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/071011094058.shtml

This was not a surprise for me. If Alonso would continue with McLaren next season too, it would be madness.
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:27 pm

Massa will not help Kimi if he dont see it as a helping for the Finn to win the title.

Massa is going to race for win he say.

Link:

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/071011093745.shtml

If Alonso go for Renault who will then drive for McLaren. ???
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:31 pm

Timo Glock going for Toyota next season.

Link:

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/071011101759.shtml

Think that I have covered almost everything that was going on in the Chines F1 thread.

Now we can continue here.
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:41 pm

 crossfingers  for Kimi. I will not say he really dominated the season but seeing him up there still makes me believe he can win the title. But I do believe if everything runs normal for Hamilton that he has no chance.

Alonso ....no comment..... in my eyes he won´t deserve it but I give him a little credit for fighting through the season.  Smile
 
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:49 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 5):
Massa will not help Kimi if he dont see it as a helping for the Finn to win the title.

Massa is going to race for win he say.

He said this prior to last race as well. There is only one small thing Massa forgot...........to actually be FASTER then Kimi.
He can talk all he wants, but nah....he will not win this one. It is about 3 drivers, and Massa is not one of them.

Frankly,
Toyota offer Alonso so much money, so seems pretty strange to me that, considering their budget, that they are so far down the grid.

Alonso has far more experience then Hamilton, and Hamilton can say that is does not feel any pressure, but that is pure bull$hit. He is human as the rest of the grid.
But ok, when the flag drops we know.

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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:58 pm

This last race is going to be really serious. No time for errors.
I certainly hope that Hamilton will win the World Champion title. He is brilliant.

Quoting BlueElephant (Thread starter):
Not even to mention all the excitement building up around the final race...
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:55 pm

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 1):
Alonso.

I'm surprised so many of you are so sure that Alonso is going to win the championship. Even if Alonso is on perfect form and dominates the race, Hammy still has a 5 point lead and needs to finish off the podium for Alonso to win the title, which given his form throughout the year is highly unlikely. I imagine the track will suit the Ferraris as it did last year, so my prediction is that Massa will use the motivation of racing in his home country to repeat just like 2006 with the pole and the win, and Alonso and hamilton will be 2nd and 3rd, giving Hamilton the title. It should be incredible to watch, I really hope whoever wins the title does it without controversy as we have seen quite enough of that. That being said, I hope Lewis drives majestically under pressure and takes a well-deserved title.
 
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:12 am

As an interesting F1-related tidbit, apparently Ferrari has signed a deal with A1 GP organizers to produce the new A1 GP engines next year, as well as taking on a direct consultant role in the chassis development, which I've heard will be based on the F1 2007, though detuned to be several seconds a lap slower than the F1 cars. http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2007/...11/ferrari-signs-a1gp-supply-deal/

This is very interesting, as Ferrari hasn't built cars for an open wheel series since their aborted IndyCar in the late 80s, and prior to that it must have been their V6 Tasman Series cars from the mid/late 1960s. It will also increase the appeal of the A1GP series, which IMO is fantastic to watch, as the cars will now be a name brand as opposed to Lola-Zyteks or whatever they were. They'll probably also be faster than the old cars if they are going to be based off of the technology of this year's constructor's championship F1 Ferrari. Excellent news, though it would be better if they started building V12 engines based off of those they last ran in 1995 in F1, purely for sound reasons  Smile
 
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:11 am

You know what, I'm gonna say Kimi wins b/c the 2 McLaren guys realize the best way to win is to drive the other off the road...taking each other out.
 
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:36 am

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 10):
Hammy still has a 5 point lead and needs to finish off the podium for Alonso to win the title,

Hamilton have a 4points lead. And if Alonso finish as 1st and Hamilton as 3rd then Alonso will win.
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:41 am

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 10):
Hammy still has a 5 point lead and needs to finish off the podium for Alonso to win the title,

Hamilton has only 4points lead and not 5. And if Alonso finish as 1st and Hamilton as 3rd then Alonso will win the champion ship.
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:05 am

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 10):
Hammy still has a 5 point lead and needs to finish off the podium for Alonso to win the title,

Hamilton has only 4points lead and not 5. And if Alonso finish as 1st and Hamilton as 3rd then Alonso will win the champion ship.
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:32 am

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 10):

I'm surprised so many of you are so sure that Alonso is going to win the championship.

I predict dirty tactics from Maranello resulting in Hamilton not finishing. Alonso is simply going to be in the right place at the right time.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 9):
He is brilliant.

He's no more special then the rest of them. He just lucked himself into a decent car.

Are you kidding Lewis?

FIA have no trust for McLaren.

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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:33 am

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 10):

I'm surprised so many of you are so sure that Alonso is going to win the championship.

I predict dirty tactics from Maranello resulting in Hamilton not finishing. Alonso is simply going to be in the right place at the right time.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 9):
He is brilliant.

He's no more special then the rest of them. He just lucked himself into a decent car.

Are you kidding Lewis?

FIA have no trust for McLaren.

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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:36 pm

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 10):
I'm surprised so many of you are so sure that Alonso is going to win the championship

I expect dirty tactics from the red cars from Maranello. Fernando will simply be in the right place at the right time.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 9):
He is brilliant.

He is no better then the rest of them. He just got lucky and found his way into a good car.

FIA don't trust McLaren with Alonsos car.

Who are you trying to impress Lewis?
 
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:28 pm

Be careful when you edit Wikipedia!

[Edited 2007-10-12 06:28:46]
 
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:53 pm

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 10):
Even if Alonso is on perfect form and dominates the race, Hammy still has a 5 point lead and needs to finish off the podium for Alonso to win the title

Four points. But that's the thing. If they were two points apart, then I'd say Alonso because of his superior experience he can cope better with the pressure. But with 4 points, even if Alonso drives a great race, Hamilton just needs to do an average race to win the championship.

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 10):
I really hope whoever wins the title does it without controversy as we have seen quite enough of that

 checkmark  Totally with you on that one, but I doubt it'll happen. And I'm nost just talking about the controversy during the race, but the controversy that could stretch out well beyond the race.
 
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:10 pm

Quoting MDD (Reply 17):

Has to be a Alonso fan  Wink
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:47 pm

Ahhh, 4 points! That DOES make a difference! Sorry for the confusion.
 
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:13 pm

Quoting R2rho (Reply 18):
Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 10):
Even if Alonso is on perfect form and dominates the race, Hammy still has a 5 point lead and needs to finish off the podium for Alonso to win the title

Four points. But that's the thing. If they were two points apart, then I'd say Alonso because of his superior experience he can cope better with the pressure. But with 4 points, even if Alonso drives a great race, Hamilton just needs to do an average race to win the championship.

Lets not forget Kimi who really does not have anything to loose here. Alonso and Kimi can attack more aggresive then Hamilton, as he has EVERYTHING to loose.


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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:14 pm

Renault doesn't wan to comment the rumours about Alonso going to the team for the next season.

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/071012154510.shtml
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:58 pm

Hamilton's desire to win the Chinese grandprix made him forget which was important.... finishing the race with good points ahead of Alonso. He should not have attempted keeping ahead of Raikkonen and should have pitted as soon as he had trouble keeping a decent line around a corner. And McLaren should have pitted him as soon as they saw the delaminating tyre. Obviously they did not learn anything for Raikkonens tyre issue at the European Grandprix 2005.

And important and valuable lesson for Hamilton. I think Hamilton will make a small mistake costing him the championship.

One things for sure... who ever wins the championship, whether its Alonso, Raikkonen or Hamilton, they have earned it this season. Looking forward to an exciting Brazilian Grandprix.

I expect Alonso to go to Renault. I would love to see them back at the front of the grid. We might see 3 teams battling next season. Who would replace Alonso IF he was to depart to Renault. De La Rosa will more than likely go to Prodrive. Paffett may also go to prodrive.
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:14 pm

Quoting Sudden (Reply 8):
Toyota offer Alonso so much money, so seems pretty strange to me that, considering their budget, that they are so far down the grid.

They are a crappy team with a crappy car. They should just quit F1 and go back to what they're good at - making road cars, instead of spending tons of money and getting nowhere.

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 23):
I expect Alonso to go to Renault. I would love to see them back at the front of the grid. We might see 3 teams battling next season.

Who will replace him at McLaren if he goes to Renault?
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:33 pm

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 24):
They are a crappy team with a crappy car. They should just quit F1 and go back to what they're good at - making road cars, instead of spending tons of money and getting nowhere.

They were pretty good at putting alot of $$ in for no results when they ran at Le Mans, too! Their 1992-1993 effort with the TS010, and then the 1998-1999 effort with the TS020 GT ONE was all about spending huge bucks developing the car and pushing the envelope, but then failing in the races because they just thought money could solve the endurance problems.
 
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:37 am

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 26):
Who will replace him at McLaren if he goes to Renault?

Vettel????
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:17 pm

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 23):
Who would replace Alonso IF he was to depart to Renault



Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 24):
Who will replace him at McLaren if he goes to Renault?



Quoting B747forever (Reply 26):
Vettel????

Nico Rosberg!
Although Frank says that if Rosberg leaves, he will sell the whole team. For Rosberg it would be great if he goes to Mclaren.
Well, it is Silly Season, but I can see it happen.


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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:17 pm

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 25):
They were pretty good at putting alot of $$ in for no results when they ran at Le Mans, too! Their 1992-1993 effort with the TS010, and then the 1998-1999 effort with the TS020 GT ONE was all about spending huge bucks developing the car and pushing the envelope, but then failing in the races because they just thought money could solve the endurance problems.

Which is why I'm surprised they've stayed in F1 as long as they have... they usually dump a program that isn't immediately competitive.

(In Toyota's defense they finished 2nd at Le Mans in 1992, 1994, and 1999, and were leading inside the final 90 minutes in both 1994 and 1998)


I'm a little surprised they have not turned around their program, and are not challenging for results with the McLarens and Ferraris of the world.
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:39 pm

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 28):
I'm a little surprised they have not turned around their program, and are not challenging for results with the McLarens and Ferraris of the world.

As the drivers input is very vital as well, I would love to see what Alonso could offer them.
I think that is one reason why they want him. His knowledge and technical skills.

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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:08 pm

Quoting Sudden (Reply 27):
Nico Rosberg!

Rosberg has a chance, If Rosberg go for McLaren next season wonder who Williams will get instead of him.
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:13 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 30):
Rosberg has a chance, If Rosberg go for McLaren next season wonder who Williams will get instead of him.

Frank Williams won't split from Rosberg that easily.

As for the Driver's Championship, I still hope Hamilton takes it, but if he and Alonso go Senna/Prost on each other, the lucky guy will be Kimi.
 
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:45 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 33):
but if he and Alonso go Senna/Prost on each other, the lucky guy will be Kimi.

And that is really great. Kimi has benefits now. He has Massa as a backup also.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 33):
Frank Williams won't split from Rosberg that easily.

If Williams loose Rosberg will they be as good as they was this season. I dont think so.
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:34 pm

Massa is looking forward for the Brazilian GP next week:

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/071014094301.shtml
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:23 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 34):
If Williams loose Rosberg will they be as good as they was this season. I dont think so.

Doubt it, look to Wurz's performance for a sign of how the Williams would go with just an average F1 driver, rarely getting into the top 10 in qualifying with the odd bit of luck in the races to get some good points. Nico is an overachiever in that car, and Frank should do everything he can to hold onto him if he wants to stay near the front of the grid next year.
 
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Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:32 am

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 36):
Frank should do everything he can to hold onto him if he wants to stay near the front of the grid next year.

If McLaren loose Alonso I don't think they're going to want to spend big bucks getting a driver. Chances they'll be stuck paying Alonsos wages for the next two years, Hamilton will be demanding a pay rise, plus all the bonus' they'll have to pay for this season. And let's not forget the small matter of the $100 million dollar fine owed to the FIA.
 
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:25 am

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 37):
Chances they'll be stuck paying Alonsos wages for the next two years

Very doubtful. I have to believe that any deal to offload him would take care of that. That's why they have lawyers! wink 
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Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:44 am

Depends if McLaren have breached their end of the contract by being found guilty of breaching the sporting code. If that's the case, they won't get out it cheaply.
 
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:46 am

Quoting B747forever (Reply 34):
And that is really great. Kimi has benefits now. He has Massa as a backup also.

He needs to make up his mind, is he going to help Kimi? or is he going for the win?

I just can't wait until sunday!

I had my F1 dose this weekend here in BCN with the Martini Legends, they celebrated the 75th anniversary of the Montjuic Circuit and they had all sort of cars from the era (old Lotus, McLarens, Ferraris, Renaults, Matras etc) and they brought the 2006 Ferrari F1 and Mark Gene did a few laps on it, AND Emerson Fittipaldi was there too! how cool was that!

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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:47 am

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 38):
Very doubtful. I have to believe that any deal to offload him would take care of that. That's why they have lawyers!

Agree there.
Flavio wants Alonso back, if it will cost to release him from his current contract, it will cost.


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Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:50 am

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 39):
Depends if McLaren have breached their end of the contract by being found guilty of breaching the sporting code. If that's the case, they won't get out it cheaply.

Possibly, but Alonso's position in the whole sordid affair is far from that of a disinterested spectator.

The key is Alonso himself. If he really wants to leave, then McLaren has the lever they need to get out of the remainder of his contract.
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:57 am

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 42):
The key is Alonso himself. If he really wants to leave, then McLaren has the lever they need to get out of the remainder of his contract.

True. It will be interesting to see what happens after Interlagos.

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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:09 am

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 43):
Hamilton v Alonso v Raikkonen - How each driver can win the championship

Thanks for that article, I was quite confused about all that....Well I knew a bit of it...but this helps much more.

Go Hamilton...


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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:12 am

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 40):
is he going to help Kimi? or is he going for the win?

If Massa and the team think that Kimi has a chance to win the WDC then yes Massa is going to help Kimi, but if they think that he doesn't have any chance to win then Massa is going to race for win.


Think that if Kimi start as 1st in Brazil and Massa as second then he will help Kimi. Otherwise he will race for win.
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:29 am

Quoting B747forever (Reply 45):
Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 40):
is he going to help Kimi? or is he going for the win?

If Massa and the team think that Kimi has a chance to win the WDC then yes Massa is going to help Kimi, but if they think that he doesn't have any chance to win then Massa is going to race for win.


Think that if Kimi start as 1st in Brazil and Massa as second then he will help Kimi. Otherwise he will race for win.

Well,
The team will have to make up their mind before Saturday qualifying, as from there on they have to know what they will do.
Kimi still has a chance no matter where Massa is on the grid, and Massa himself says that he is going for the win, but who is he to deside that, really. If the team tells him to back off in qualifying, that's what he will be doing.
See no reason to give Massa a chance to win, when they, Ferrari, can go for the title.


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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:19 am

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 16):
I predict dirty tactics from Maranello resulting in Hamilton not finishing

Why? Why does Ferrari always get hit even before the race? Besides what benefit would Ferrari achieve by having Alonso win?

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 40):
He needs to make up his mind, is he going to help Kimi? or is he going for the win?

I'm guessing that no matter what he says, Massa probably recieved orders to help Kimi as much as he can. I can understand he'd like to win in Brazil out of all places, but Ferrari is the one that gives him the juicy paycheck each month.

Honestly I think Hamilton will win. Although he has most to lose, he also has the team behind him and most of all, he has 4 points of advantage. Unless he really screws up again, he's the winner. What he did in China IMO is actually a positive thing for him. He proved himslef he's not invincible. But of course, anything can happen at the end. Maybe the Mclaren engine finally decides to blow up on him, and not on Alonso ... who knows?
Or maybe they both bump into eachother in that dangerous first turn (yes, I've been waiting for that all season Big grin ) and Kimi takes it  Wink

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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:43 am

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 43):
Sir Jackie tells Mosley to get a new job!

I fully agree. But he should also take Bernie Ecclestone along. They both are turning Formula 1 into politics and thus boring. They already did enough damage when they banned slicks and started restricting engine power. Let F1 become exiting and at the same time exhilitaring. Bring back high speeds and true challenges for drivers and get rid of all the excess strategy.

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 43):
Fittipaldi thinks Alonso should join Ferrari

Thinking about what Fittipaldi says, he does have a point about Alonso being capable of helping improve a car the way Michael Schumacher did. However, note that for his second year, Michael Schumacher brought many of his former mechanics from then Benetton (among them Ross Brawn), which also helped in his endeavour. McLaren has good mechanics but in the past had to deal with reliability issues and now it's the reincarnation of the Senna vs Prost rivalry courtesy of Hamilton and Alonso, that's the primary cause of their headaches right now and may have harmed the team in the process. Renault never really had such a good car, even in their World Championship seasons, but they did have an excellent driver would turned that car into the biggest headache for Michael Schumacher since the Damon Hill/Jacques Villeneuve days. On the other hand, Ferrari has had good cars in the past, but the problem is now that they don't have good enough drivers after Schumacher's retirement.

Bottom line: while Alonso going to Ferrari would be an interesting move, given his technical and driver capabilities, my money is on him returning to Renault and to Flavio Briatore. This could even give Briatore the excuse to sack Giancarlo Fisichella. I mean, what the hell is Fisichella still doing in F1 anyway? He's just as much of a washout as Ralf Schumacher is.

[Edited 2007-10-15 17:45:01]
 
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RE: F1 2007: Brazil

Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:54 am

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 47):
Why? Why does Ferrari always get hit even before the race?

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2007/...aggressive-approach-to-final-race/

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