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Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:44 pm

Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied with Beating with Iron Bars and Stabbing by Muslim thugs
By OnTheWeb Monday, October 29, 2007


by Adrian Morgan.
As I mentioned earlier a campaign has been mounted in Europe called Stop Islamisation of Europe. This group’s aim is self-evident - to oppose multicultural policies which have allowed Islamists to wield political influence, and the encroachment of Islam in Europe. They regard this spread of a potentially violent religion/ideology as a threat to the values which built Europe. They are not racist - their slogan is “Racism is the lowest form of human stupidity, but Islamophobia is the height of common sense.”

On the sixth anniversary of 9/11 this year, members of the group had tried to protest in Brussels. The politically correct mayor, Freddy Thielemans, was opposed to any event which could have inflamed Muslims in his city - a tacit admission that demonstrations of free speech - a basic European right - would be met with violence by the same Muslims he supports. He banned the demonstration. Several people still turned up, hoping to make their protest, but 154 people were arrested.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/401


I guess free speech is losing out in the EU also.
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:43 pm

considering all thr crap that happend because of some stupid cartoons, are you really surprised???
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:40 pm

How utterly pointless. The vast majority of Muslims are just happy going about their day to day lives, they don't want terror attacks and radicals giving their faith a treacherous name any more than we do. All this group will do is incite racial violence within the community... great!  Yeah sure


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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:30 pm

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 2):
The vast majority of Muslims are just happy going about their day to day lives, they don't want terror attacks and radicals giving their faith a treacherous name any more than we do

apprently not according to these right-wing xenophobic nutjobs. They seem to know Muslim better than one from the community. I dont talk about the Bible or Christians as a community like I'm one of their own either.
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:36 pm

Quoting Wingnut767 (Thread starter):
free speech is losing out in the EU also.

There is difference between free speech and inciting violence, BTW. I dont expect Neo-Nazi's to go thru a Jewish Neighborhood with the Swastika.
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:39 pm

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 2):
All this group will do is incite racial violence within the community

As did the hundreds of thousands of Muslims who turned out after a cartoon was printed.
 
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:49 pm

Quoting Lobster (Reply 5):
As did the hundreds of thousands of Muslims who turned out after a cartoon was printed.

I think that's a fair bit of an exaggeration to say that hundreds of thousands protested. It was helped by the media either, who aired some pretty selective coverage of the whole situation.


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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:14 pm

Complete and utter bullshit.

There was no demonstration in Brussels, nor any attempt at it. "SIOE" is a fringe Danish extremist group. The alleged "demonstration" and "attacks" happened in Copenhagen, and the only "proof" of it is a YouTube clip on their blog showing a guy telling the story.  Yeah sure The clip was filmed in a forest and the pics of "bleeding" people could have been shot anywhere and at any time. What a load of bullshit!

Wingnut, why did you post an "article" from an obscure right wing blog masquerading as a newspaper, which can't even correctly copy a hoax from another right-wing blog? Please include a disclaimer next time that what you're posting is a hoax. Thanks!
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:16 pm

Quoting Toast (Reply 7):
There was no demonstration in Brussels, nor any attempt at it. "SIOE" is a fringe Danish extremist group. The alleged "demonstration" and "attacks" happened in Copenhagen, and the only "proof" of it is a YouTube clip on their blog showing a guy telling the story. The clip was filmed in a forest and the pics of "bleeding" people could have been shot anywhere and at any time. What a load of bullshit!

This is from the Local.


Time to lock this thread.
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:39 pm

For those of you who say that the problem is political (palestine, integration, whatever) and not with Islam itself, here is another reminder from Pakistan.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...071031story_31-10-2007_pg7_5

Bomb threats for un-Islamic ringtones. Yes, if you put a Madonna tune on your ringer, they will kill you in the name of Islam. Let's see if the usual apologists come in with some political explanation for this one...
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:46 pm

Heres another one too..

"Cleric: Women's Sexy Clothing Distracting Muslim Men From Sleep, Prayers"

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,306658,00.html

Maybe because there freaking men!! And last time I checked most me like woman. Say it ain't so!


Oh no!! Not "sexy" clothing.  Yeah sure And where is the tolerance of others in Islam?
 
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:50 pm

Quoting Wingnut767 (Thread starter):
On the sixth anniversary of 9/11 this year, members of the group had tried to protest in Brussels. The politically correct mayor, Freddy Thielemans, was opposed to any event which could have inflamed Muslims in his city - a tacit admission that demonstrations of free speech - a basic European right - would be met with violence by the same Muslims he supports. He banned the demonstration. Several people still turned up, hoping to make their protest, but 154 people were arrested.

What a utter bunch of crap, clearly written by no-one even attempting to be taken seriously, and for whom objectivity is obviously a dirty word. The demonstration was banned because there were clear indications that several radical and violent groups (skinheads, neonazis and assorted thugs) would turn up, with the sole intent of causing a riot.

Oh, and those 154 arrested? You know what's funny? Even the SIOE itself actually agrees with those arrests on their official website. Those arrest were not made at the SIOE protest, but at a different square, where the extremist political party Vlaams Belang tried to abuse this 'demonstration' for its own purposes. SIOE obliged with the police, and was allowed to demonstrate. Vlaams Belang organised its own 'demonstration', without prior notice, and with the clear intention of getting arrested and making a big media circus of it. And they got what they wanted...
 
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:55 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 9):
and not with Islam itself, here is another reminder from Pakistan.

oh no, here is the Islamaphobe, Christian supremacist's take on his expertise on Islam and Muslim world.

Quoting Lobster (Reply 10):
"Cleric: Women's Sexy Clothing Distracting Muslim Men From Sleep, Prayers"

does it have to do anything with the thread?

Quoting Scorpio (Reply 11):

again a native of Belgium, clearly has a better understanding of whats going on in his country.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 9):
a Madonna tune on your ringer, they will kill you in the name of

do yourself a favor and go to Pakistan, get yourself out of that hole in Alabama and go there.
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:59 pm

What a crappy position.


There is nothing wrong with Islam. Just prosecute law violators, not religions.

If Islam is causing terrorism, identify how, and imprison those responsible!

If Islam is abusing women, by all means, arrest the men involved.

If Islam is keeping girls out of school, then take her away from her abusive parents and give her a new family.

There's no reason to blame one's religion for one's crimes. Instead, just focus on crimes. Persecuting religions like Islam or Christianity will only antagonize and strengthen their resolve.

There are some 1 billion muslims out there, and there is NO way to "fight" them. Any effort to do so will be doomed. Just be friendly and enforce fair, secular laws.
 
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:02 pm

Quoting Flighty (Reply 13):
1 billion muslims out there

according to our resident expert Cfalk, all of them are terrorists. Cfalk, get yourself out of that hole, please and dont invite me to Jesus either.
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:12 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 9):
Bomb threats for un-Islamic ringtones. Yes, if you put a Madonna tune on your ringer, they will kill you in the name of Islam. Let's see if the usual apologists come in with some political explanation for this one...



Quoting Lobster (Reply 10):

Oh no!! Not "sexy" clothing. Yeah sure And where is the tolerance of others in Islam?

Jeez... not another round of islamophobics...
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:14 pm

Quoting Wingnut767 (Thread starter):
“Racism is the lowest form of human stupidity, but Islamophobia is the height of common sense.”

Ah yes. The old "I'm not a racist, but..." opening gambit. Ermm, sorry folks, but yes you are. Hating an entire religion for the acts of a few extremists is exactly that, racist. Islam isn't the problem, extremism on BOTH sides is.
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:58 pm

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 4):
There is difference between free speech and inciting violence, BTW. I dont expect Neo-Nazi's to go thru a Jewish Neighborhood with the Swastika.

Guess you never heard about the Nazis who, in 1977, successfully won the right to march in Skokie, IL, then a predominantly Jewish suburb of Chicago. When the town argued that a proposed Nazi march would assault the sensibilities of its citizens and spark violence, it won a court injunction against the marchers. In response, the American Civil Liberties Union took the case and successfully defended the Nazis' right to free speech.
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:30 am

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 12):
oh no, here is the Islamaphobe, Christian supremacist's take on his expertise on Islam and Muslim world.
Even the link he posted ain't workin.

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 12):
do yourself a favor and go to Pakistan, get yourself out of that hole in Alabama and go there.

I doubt he is interested in the reality.
Don't be trying to spread BS about Pakistan while I am around.

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 12):
does it have to do anything with the thread?
Anything helps... I guess. lol
I guess others can posts tons of stuff like that too, but one has to be that low of a person to post just anything.

Quoting Toast (Reply 7):


Quoting Scorpio (Reply 11):

Thanks for setting the record straight. Not that it means anything to those who hatched it and egged it on.

[Edited 2007-11-02 01:42:18]
 
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:46 am

Quoting Toast (Reply 7):
There was no demonstration in Brussels, nor any attempt at it.



Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 8):
Quoting Toast (Reply 7):
There was no demonstration in Brussels, nor any attempt at it. "SIOE" is a fringe Danish extremist group. The alleged "demonstration" and "attacks" happened in Copenhagen, and the only "proof" of it is a YouTube clip on their blog showing a guy telling the story. The clip was filmed in a forest and the pics of "bleeding" people could have been shot anywhere and at any time. What a load of bullshit!

This is from the Local.


Time to lock this thread.

Then why does the BBC report of protests in Belgium over this? Lock 'er up!  silly 

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 12):
Quoting Cfalk (Reply 9):
and not with Islam itself, here is another reminder from Pakistan.

oh no, here is the Islamaphobe, Christian supremacist's take on his expertise on Islam and Muslim world.

More in-depth insight. You're ready for the 6 o'clock news.

Quoting Bravo45 (Reply 18):
Even the link he posted ain't workin.

Works fine for me.
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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:53 am

I checked out the blog of the SIOE, and it was pretty odd:

http://sioe.wordpress.com/

Alot of melodrama, and apparently muslims are coming to kill us all.  eek 

When trying to justify the organization's existence they actually refer to the role of complacency towards ones enemies, and the fall of Babylon! I don't have a big problem with an organization like this, especially when the make themselves out to be nuts.

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RE: Anti-Islamization Protesters Left Bloodied

Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:05 pm

Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 19):
Then why does the BBC report of protests in Belgium over this?

A minor event all but unreported in Belgian media, and in no relation whatsoever to SIOE.
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