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Ron Paul Gaining Traction...fundraising Record

Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:42 pm

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...=D8SNV5Q02&show_article=1&catnum=3

$4.2MM in one day....Ron Paul is gaining financial support in droves and is beginning to get more traction as his Presidential campaign heats up!


Whoo-hoo!
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:54 pm

What's so great about Ron Paul? Everywhere I look people are supporting him, yet he's doing about as good in the Presidential race as I am in the Calvin Kline model race...I mean, I just don't see what's so great about him? But it's good to see all the people who support him actually supporting him with more than just signs.

[Edited 2007-11-06 10:55:10]
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:16 pm

Do any of these Ron supporters know his voting record? This guy has vetoed so many bills and proposals its not funny....
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:20 pm

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 2):
Do any of these Ron supporters know his voting record? This guy has vetoed so many bills and proposals its not funny....

What's the point of learning the voting record of a guy who will lose quicker than you would recognize ANCFlyer's hat?  duck  duck  duck  duck 
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:26 pm

Quoting SW733 (Reply 1):
What's so great about Ron Paul?

The fact that he's willing to actaully, oh yeah, uphold the US Constitution. You know, that thing that they all swear to protect and defend, but don't?

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 2):
Do any of these Ron supporters know his voting record? This guy has vetoed so many bills and proposals its not funny....

You say that like it’s a BAD thing!! That’s a wonderful thing! We need more people in the House that will vote to limit government, not expand the unconstitutional powers of the Federal government, increase spending, violate private property rights, etc, etc.


Ron Paul may be one of the few true hopes we have in terms of any legitimate principled leadership in this election cycle. A man who will do the right thing even if it’s unpopular. Our Republic has drifted so far askew; we cannot afford more of a slide into the abyss. I tend to think Dr. Paul is someone who can get us back to basics.
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:53 pm

Although he has recieved more funding in a single day than any other GOP candidate, Hillary and Obama in a 24hr. span collected over $6 million.

One thing I will say about Ron Paul is that he doesnt "suck up" to the masses, he doesnt seem to suck up to the Religious Right, he does believe in upholding the constitution, I think he is a good man but his isolationist policies are a little too radical for me. He doesnt seem to be a flipflopper and his reasoning for everything is 9/11.
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:00 pm

Quoting Slider (Reply 4):
The fact that he's willing to actaully, oh yeah, uphold the US Constitution. You know, that thing that they all swear to protect and defend, but don't?

How has he upheld the Constitution? I'm not calling you a liar, I just flat out don't know.

Quoting Slider (Reply 4):
A man who will do the right thing even if it’s unpopular

If it's unpopular, he has no hopes of becoming President...that's just the way it goes. He may be the guy who does what's right, but what's right isn't always what draws votes, and in that case he's in trouble. It's tough to do what's popular and what's right all the time...eventually he's going to have to find something where he has to pick a side - popular or right - and that may make him unpopular in a bad way.
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:05 pm

Tell me that there isn't something fishy in here:

http://ronpaulgraphs.com/week_over_week_flat.png

I like Ron Paul's stances on domestic issues, but his view of the world is hopelessly outdated and would in the long term get a hell of a lot of people killed.
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:15 pm

Quoting SW733 (Reply 6):
eventually he's going to have to find something where he has to pick a side - popular or right - and that may make him unpopular in a bad way.

You should read up on Mr. Paul. He is one of the least fence-sitting politicians I've ever been familiar with. The sad thing is, as you've pointed out already, being honest and consistent in how he feels about the hot topics (Iraq, taxes, our borders, etc...) will result in someone else becoming our next president.
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:23 pm

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 8):
You should read up on Mr. Paul.

I'll take another look...to be honest, I have a "most important" issue, and any politician who I don't agree with is off my list of possibly getting my vote...him and I disagree, so he doesn't get my vote. I could agree with him in every other issue, but as long as we disagree in that one "most important", I am not interested.

EDIT: I have gone and looked at a list of him on the issues...must say I do agree with him on a good chunk...but again, just that one...

[Edited 2007-11-06 12:28:17]
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:47 pm

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 5):
One thing I will say about Ron Paul is that he doesnt "suck up" to the masses, he doesnt seem to suck up to the Religious Right, he does believe in upholding the constitution, I think he is a good man but his isolationist policies are a little too radical for me.

He is not an isolationist…that is the perception. He believes there is absolutely a time for war and the application of military force, but he believes that that force should be done through the declaration of war as the Constitution demands. Paul has noted that in almost every instance the US has gotten embroiled in military conflict that has ended badly, it’s because that engagement was initiated by a sitting president and not approved by Congress. And something Dr. Paul is overlooked on is his stance on diplomacy—if we would have had a true statesman in the White House for the past 16 years, can you imagine how things might be different?

Quoting SW733 (Reply 6):
How has he upheld the Constitution? I'm not calling you a liar, I just flat out don't know.

www.ronpaul2008.com You can see his voting record and I’ll let him speak for himself.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 7):
I like Ron Paul's stances on domestic issues, but his view of the world is hopelessly outdated and would in the long term get a hell of a lot of people killed.

Again, I disagree and would add that the present view of the world, in which the US has to have its hand in every pot has gotten a lot of people killed too. I can understand the perception many have of his policies, but I tend to lean toward the Theodore Roosevelt/Pat Buchanan/Barry Goldwater thread here, and Paul is more of that mold rather than the cowboy interventionist “freedom and liberty are on the march” ideologue crap that we’ve had to put up with most recently.

His view of the world is not outdated; quite the contrary. He understands the realpolitik decisions that are sometimes necessary, but we cannot continue a policy of “the enemy of your enemy is your friend” because, as we now see, that’s biting us in the ass. Iraq, Pakistan, Latin America, etc.

Why are we in South Korea? Why do we continue to fund Israel to a nauseating degree? Why do we throw money away in Africa left and right? Why are we party to the UN?

Quoting SW733 (Reply 9):
EDIT: I have gone and looked at a list of him on the issues...must say I do agree with him on a good chunk...but again, just that one...

Just curious, what is that one issue?
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:08 pm

Quoting Slider (Reply 10):
“freedom and liberty are on the march” ideologue crap that we’ve had to put up with most

That is what sets Ron Paul apart. I will give him another thing, he says it clearly blames past and present American foreign policy.

Quoting Slider (Reply 10):
Why do we continue to fund Israel to a nauseating degree?

Thanks to the Religious Right, every single televangelist I've listened to talks about supporting the Jews which God has commanded them to do so, at the same time condemning the hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Christians to life of bare existence. This BS of God's giving the land to Jews and support them at all costs is disgusting.
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:18 pm

LOL I just here his name and immediately think of a cheap porno. Starring....Ron Paul I dunno
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:27 pm

While I admire Ron Paul for sticking to his beliefs, I don't think he's the right guy to lead the country in a time of increasing internationalism.

Quoting Slider (Reply 10):
He is not an isolationist...that is the perception. He believes there is absolutely a time for war and the application of military force, but he believes that that force should be done through the declaration of war as the Constitution demands.

Ron Paul is an isolationist. Isolationism is about more than just military action. More importantly, it is about dealing with the UN, dealing with free trade agreements, dealing with the WTO, getting humanitarian aid to where it needs to be, etc. Getting the US out of the UN would be the best thing that could ever happen for China, as well as a Russia that is becoming increasingly troublesome. Getting the US out of Africa would do nothing but give China free reign over trade with the continent. The US cannot exist in a vacuum anymore.

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Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:35 pm

Ahhh yes, Ron Paul...the most backwards candidate of the lot. A man whos ideas are so poorly thought out you have to wonder if he's taking this seriously, or just milking saps for "contributions" before deciding to drop out and take the money home.

The man basically wants us to regress into an agrarian society. I roomed with a Ron Paul supporter over the summer who actually believed that's what this country needs. Freaking lunatic.

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Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:27 am

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 19):
Which Israel took as a prize for winning the 1967 War.

Yes, but clearly against th UN. Most people would like to go back to pre-1967 borders which the UN appropriated.

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 19):
Palestinians 80% of Palestine, which they declined.

No kidding, why the hell would they agree to anything less than 100% of the land that their ancestors had lived for the last 1400 years only to accomodate for a minority Jewish population at that time. Palestinians had 20% to lose, the Jewish settlers had nothing to lose, and everything to gain. Not to mention, that the Arabs would get the entire Negev Desert, oh joy.

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 19):
do you actually have an idea what you'd do with the settlers? Give them a home inside Israel? What would you do?

Sadly, just like how Palestinians are treated, who cares, seriously? They settled knowingly that it was a violation of UN, eventually it will be torn down. The same way the basic human rights of Palestinians are ignored, these people can get a monetary compensation and get the hell out. They can build developments in proper Israel. Building illegal settlements is the part that Israel plays in prohibiting the peace process. This would be a very unpopular move however, after the "troubles" seen evacuating those 9,000 settlers. It would be a disastrous move however to remove 350,000 settlers in the West Bank, then again it was illegal.
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Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:33 am

Quoting Slider (Reply 10):
Just curious, what is that one issue?

Sorry, I keep those things to myself. Lets just say it's not abortion, it's not gun control, it's not gay marriage, but it's the closest thing to my heart.
 
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Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:50 am

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 24):
Yes, its international law, respect it if Israel wants to have any remaining legitimacy. It a UN resolution, and by not doing so it is not following the laws that it so wants Palestinians to follow.

So what's the UN going to do? You never answered that.

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 24):
I know, but at that time period for 1 Jew there were 8-9 Arabs.

And accordingly, the Palestinians were offered 80% of the land.
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Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:57 am

From what I have noticed, Ron Paul is the most popular candidate at the University of Arizona. People have plastered bumperstickers everywhere and there are constantly people trying to get his name out to more people.
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Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:11 am

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 27):
From what I have noticed, Ron Paul is the most popular candidate at the University of Arizona.

He does have a lot of support among college students for his "fight the big guy" stance.

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Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:28 am

Quoting Mir (Reply 28):
He does have a lot of support among college students for his "fight the big guy" stance.

I noticed a lot of people a couple weeks ago in downtown Lawrence, Kansas (home of KU) with Ron Paul signs...and I guess it might "fight the big guy" because the big guy has big business behind him...but that also means he has a chance of winning, usually. Name one President who won because he was supported by college students...

Waiting...

Waiting...

Oh yes, in 2004 it was Howard Dean with all the college support...he did well.
 
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Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:47 pm

Quoting SW733 (Reply 16):
Sorry, I keep those things to myself. Lets just say it's not abortion, it's not gun control, it's not gay marriage, but it's the closest thing to my heart.

I can respect that, and please know I certainly didn¡¦t mean to pry. I was sincerely curious because one issue voters intrigue me. I often get accused of being an idealist because of my many Libertarian leanings (as a recovering Republican), but I am terribly practical when it comes to my candidates¡KI know that no single one will embody ALL of the things I believe in, and while some are weighted more than others, I ultimately have to go with the best ¡§all-in¡¨ guy on the ballot. This is not to say I won¡¦t back down from my rejection of the ¡§lesser of two evils¡¨ doctrine, however, as Ron Paul is the ONLY Republican (maybe Hunter or Tancredo) that I would even consider voting for right now, and not a single Democrat. So if my guys don¡¦t get the nomination, I¡¦m not backing either major party this year. Again.

Quoting Mir (Reply 19):
He does have a lot of support among college students for his "fight the big guy" stance.

Well, it¡¦s good to see the groundswell of support at Arizona¡Kperhaps shades of Goldwater? ƒº

Quoting SW733 (Reply 20):
Name one President who won because he was supported by college students...

Waiting...

Waiting...

Oh yes, in 2004 it was Howard Dean with all the college support...he did well.

I sense the sarcasm, but don¡¦t forget that even though the boomers have the demographic and financial control, it is today¡¦s students, like many generations before, who have an indelible imprint on the election cycle. Dean¡¦s primal scream, and the fact he was a liberal nutjob, doomed him. Paul has no such liabilities and if people stop and actually listen and absorb the issues instead of our vapid soundbite culture, there¡¦s no question in my mind that Dr. Paul would be THE nominee. Besides, the NEW MEDIA is rapidly influencing if not outright changing the entire election media dynamic¡KI wouldn¡¦t underestimate how this can be used. Dean was good at that, I¡¦ll give his campaign credit.
 
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Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:49 pm

Woot Woot Woot!

I look forward to Ron Pauls victory in 2008!!!

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Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:23 pm

Quoting Slider (Reply 21):
I can respect that, and please know I certainly didn¡¦t mean to pry

Oh of course not, I never once thought you were prying. I am just keep a lot of my political leanings to myself, it's just the way I have always been.

Quoting Slider (Reply 21):
I was sincerely curious because one issue voters intrigue me.

I wouldn't say I am simply a one issue voter. I am very, very interested in other issues, but one is so close to my heart that if he or she doesn't agree with me, he or she has zero chance of getting my vote. If there are multiple candidates who share my view on that topic (which there are, from both parties), then it very much depends on the other issues.

Quoting Slider (Reply 21):
I sense the sarcasm, but don¡¦t forget that even though the boomers have the demographic and financial control, it is today¡¦s students, like many generations before, who have an indelible imprint on the election cycle.

I will not deny that students have an impact, but I don't believe they have enough of one to swing the election in any way for any candidate. College students are a lot like regular Americans...only 10% or so are in the extremes of either direction, and the rest just sit back and watch, then (sometimes) go out on Election Day to vote for the person they believe will do the most to deliver on their promises that will benefit them. Only difference between the 10% of college students who are extremes and the 10% of regular Americans who are extremes is that college students tend to be poor...I was one just a year and a half ago, I know that one for sure  Wink
 
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Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:02 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 19):

He seems to get a lot of support at my college as well, although here it's because people perceive him as being honest.
 
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Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:19 pm

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 24):
He seems to get a lot of support at my college as well, although here it's because people perceive him as being honest.

That’s because he is.

• Has never voted for a budget that would increase the Federal budget
• He has never voted to increase taxes once.
• He has never voted to increase Congressional pay
• He does not participate in the Congressional pension
• His office turns over surplus unused office expense money every year

There are a lot of things that are not typical about Dr. Paul and his record, his pattern of behavior and what we have (sadly) grown accustomed to from our elected officials. There is an element of integrity with him.
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:37 am

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 24):
He seems to get a lot of support at my college as well, although here it's because people perceive him as being honest.

He is honest. He has his policies and he sticks to them. I'd vote for him if I didn't believe that those policies would be very damaging for the country.

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Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:01 am

Quoting Mir (Reply 26):
He is honest. He has his policies and he sticks to them. I'd vote for him if I didn't believe that those policies would be very damaging for the country.

Mir, not to call you out per se, but I would be genuinely interested from an intellectual standpoint as to why you believe his policies would be damaging for the country.

I happen to think some of his proposals strike many as utterly radical, but in the context of the crap we've had to put up with, and when you get past the paradigm of where we are, they make sense.

His monetary policy for instance, actually makes grand sense when you examine it. He's got decades of experience on the subject too.
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:19 am

Quoting Slider (Reply 25):



Quoting Mir (Reply 26):

Indeed, I find him to be very honest. I tried to word what I said in an objective manner, but I might have have come out as sounding disbelieving.

Paul seems to be very intelligent and very solid. Unlike other candidates, he does not pander to people. He won't try to suck up to the neocons.

I don't think that some of his beliefs I've heard about are terribly great for the success of the nation...but most of what I know is hearsay. I've heard that he's a looney isolationist from some, and I know that he wants to pull troops out from many, many places. However, he also says:

"Too often we give foreign aid and intervene on behalf of governments that are despised. Then, we become despised. Too often we have supported those who turn on us, like the Kosovars who aid Islamic terrorists, or the Afghan jihadists themselves, and their friend Osama bin Laden. We armed and trained them, and now we’re paying the price.

At the same time, we must not isolate ourselves. The generosity of the American people has been felt around the globe. Many have thanked God for it, in many languages. Let us have a strong America, conducting open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy with other nations."



I really don't know what to think. Compared to most candidates, though, I think that the amount of damage he might do is less. And the problems he might cause might be worth the honesty. Frankly, I'm tired of the family...Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush, and probably Clinton, Clinton.

The state America is in is sad. I think that we going downhill fast, and surgery might be what's needed to save us.

As such, I would feel no shame in voting for Ron Paul.

My mother, Mir, is the same as you though...she loves him and his writing, but does not want to vote for him.
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:23 am

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 28):
Paul seems to be very intelligent and very solid. Unlike other candidates, he does not pander to people. He won't try to suck up to the neocons.

not pandering to anyone is what sets Paul apart from the rest of the Pack, unfortunately he isnt going to win because of that, Politics isnt about how true you are to your convictions anymore, its about how much you can suck up to the majority interests.
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:39 am

Say what you want about Ron Paul but I think he is the best Republican candidate running for President. He is very frank and is not afraid to tell it like it is.
I have WAY more respect for Ron Paul than Romney, McCain or that petty little guy from New York City named Rudy.
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:06 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 30):
Say what you want about Ron Paul but I think he is the best Republican candidate running for President. He is very frank and is not afraid to tell it like it is

Forget best Republican Candidate, he is the best candidate out of all of the potential suitors, on either side of the aisle. He's better than the Democratic candidates as well.

Bill Richardson is a good one as well too though, from the Democrat side of the aisle, unfortunately, he's not getting the push he deserves.
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:32 am

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 31):
Bill Richardson is a good one as well too though, from the Democrat side of the aisle, unfortunately, he's not getting the push he deserves.



Quoting Superfly (Reply 30):
Say what you want about Ron Paul but I think he is the best Republican candidate running for President. He is very frank and is not afraid to tell it like it is.
I have WAY more respect for Ron Paul than Romney, McCain or that petty little guy from New York City named Rudy.

Spot on on both statements! Richardson seems like a pretty genuine guy too. We just have shameful front runners...and don't mention Romney...the hair...oh my.
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:45 am

I swore I wouldn't do this anymore, but I got a Ron Paul 08 sticker on the F150.

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Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:01 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 33):
I swore I wouldn't do this anymore, but I got a Ron Paul 08 sticker on the F150.

Right on!  thumbsup 

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 32):
We just have shameful front runners...

I like Hillary Clinton. She isn't as bad as some make her out to be.
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:41 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 33):
I swore I wouldn't do this anymore, but I got a Ron Paul 08 sticker on the F150.

Did you at least put it somewhere where you can take it off should he lose? Nothing more funny than seeing "Ron Paul 2008" in 2014 when someone else is President.

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 28):
He won't try to suck up to the neocons

Well, with him having a mere 4% in the November 5 NBC News/USA Today Poll, he's going to have to start sucking up to someone or someones pretty soon. He may have a spine, I can't really disagree with that, but I guarantee that wont win him the Presidency. And before I get attacked for being so negative, I am not, I am looking at it with regular glasses instead of rose colored. 4% to Giuliani's 33% for the Republican bid...better pick up some steam there, RuPaul...er, Ron Paul  duck 
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:35 pm

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 31):
Forget best Republican Candidate, he is the best candidate out of all of the potential suitors, on either side of the aisle. He's better than the Democratic candidates as well.

I agree...

Quoting Superfly (Reply 34):
She isn't as bad as some make her out to be.

No, she's WORSE! Marxism by any other name still smells bad. If it's in a pantsuit, worse.
 
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:53 pm

Quoting Slider (Reply 27):
I would be genuinely interested from an intellectual standpoint as to why you believe his policies would be damaging for the country.

I don't like his foreign policy. Withdrawing from the UN, WTO, ICC, etc. will only bring harm in the long run. It may sound nice to say "if it doesn't directly benefit us, get us out of it," but remember that whatever influence we give up we are also handing to China and Russia on a silver platter.

When the Constitution was written, the US was protected by vast natural borders. That just isn't the case anymore. And Ron Paul's isolationism (and he is very isolationist) will not bring any benefit to the country.

I am also uncomfortable with the fact that he seems to lack direction. The strong countries have directions. During the Cold War, the US had direction. Today's China has direction. Post-WWII Japan had direction. All of those countries were very successful. Ron Paul seems to want to just let everyone do what they want. That sounds nice, but we are supposed to be a society, not a bunch of people living in the same country. It is still the US, of course, and there are still liberties and freedoms that we must never lose. But I think we need some sort of national direction other than not having any national direction.

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