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Is It Time For The BCS To Go?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:49 pm

Well, as the thread title implies- is it time for the BCS to go in favor of a playoff system in college football?

My opinion is it should be a tournament with the top 16 teams in the country invited. I think It's easier to figure out the top 16 teams and then let the best 2 decide for themselves who should be in the Championship game. The structure would work similar to March Madness for NCAA basketball, but with 4 rounds instead of 6 (just like the NFL, but no team gets a first round by). The teams would play each other based on national rankings (1-16, 2-15, 3-14, etc.) in the first round. This way, even if the team that should be Number 1 isn't ranked number 1, they should still be able to rise to the top throughout the playoff system and win the national title.

I think this system would be far more exciting, and would actually make some of the games for teams fighting for the bottom rankings (14-15-16) going into that final week exciting, rather than it only being down to a couple teams. Obviously every system has it's flaws, and the team that gets ranked 17th could say they got screwed, but no system is perfect.

Or rather than rankings, use the winners from each conference (ACC, SEC, Big-10, Big 12, Pac-10, etc.) and have a a national playoff system from there. Thoughts?

So is there anyone out there who favors the BCS System over a playoff system?
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RE: Is It Time For The BCS To Go?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:51 pm

The BCS is here to stay until the the NCAA can figure out a way to make their multi-millions with a playoff system.
 
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RE: Is It Time For The BCS To Go?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:03 pm

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):
My opinion is it should be a tournament with the top 16 teams in the country invited.

That would make for way too many games and rounds. Top 8 teams, the very most.

If you there is a 16 team playoff bracket, thats 4 rounds. Will these be played at neutral sites? It's not logical or practical to force fans to travel around the country for as many as 4 weeks in a row to follow their team.

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):
Or rather than rankings, use the winners from each conference (ACC, SEC, Big-10, Big 12, Pac-10, etc.) and have a a national playoff system from there. Thoughts?

Well, but the you can have conferences loaded at the top- like the Big Ten last year with OSU, UM, and UW.

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):

So is there anyone out there who favors the BCS System over a playoff system?

I'm not a huge critic of the BCS, and think it has worked fairly well. I like the way the bowl system works in college football. The one thing i would like to see is a 4 team playoff, with 2 of the 4 standard BCS bowls feeding into a national title game the week later.
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RE: Is It Time For The BCS To Go?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:12 pm

I say make the BCS poll like a league system ranking, so it can be determined who goes to the playoffs, basically merging BCS poll with a playoff system (a simple single-game knockout system like in the NFL). Just keep the BCS poll, as the only poll that can indicate who is eligible for the national championship playoffs, improve it further to determine how other teams can qualify for non-BCS bowls outside and inside of the playoffs (basically allotting non-BCS bowl spots to teams that couldn't make it to the playoffs based on their ranking, while determening which team goes to a BCS Bowl, and a National Championship bowl through their performance in the playoffs), and also so it can make more sense, and get rid of all those other polls. But as it has been said, things ain't gonna change because of all the money.
 
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RE: Is It Time For The BCS To Go?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:13 pm

Quoting KROC (Reply 1):
The BCS is here to stay until the the NCAA can figure out a way to make their multi-millions with a playoff system.

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Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):
So is there anyone out there who favors the BCS System over a playoff system?

How about (referencing both) having a BCS playoff system?

Use the rankings at the end from the BCS, then use all top-4 bowls if necessary. It would be a dynamic system.

Here's a scenario - this year, say, at the end, it looks like 6 teams could be legitimately involved - LSU, Oregon, OU, KU, WV and OSU.

In that case
- have the top 2 sit out the first week of playoffs and use the next 4 in 2 bowl games in late December (say, Rose and Fiesta).
- the winners of those two games would play the top 2 in two more bowl games in early January (say, Orange and Sugar).
-the winners of those last two would play for the title.

Nothing's heaven with the BCS involved, but it would appeal to the sponsors and the NCAA, as it would generate more revenue, IMO. It would also bring a lot of the arguing to an end.
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RE: Is It Time For The BCS To Go?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:15 pm

Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 2):

That would make for way too many games and rounds. Top 8 teams, the very most.

If you there is a 16 team playoff bracket, thats 4 rounds. Will these be played at neutral sites? It's not logical or practical to force fans to travel around the country for as many as 4 weeks in a row to follow their team.

Hum; the NCAA DII playoffs invite 24 teams, with the top 8 having a bye the first round.

Quoting KROC (Reply 1):
NCAA can figure out a way to make their multi-millions with a playoff system.

Until the big six conferences (Big 12, SEC, Big East, Big 10, Pac-10, ACC) want the playoffs isn't going to happen, to much money in the present bowl games, after all under a playoff system you wouldn't have a pair of 6-6 teams playing in a no-name bowl that no one cares about..Insight Bowl in Tempe AZ comes to mind.
 
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RE: Is It Time For The BCS To Go?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:24 am

Quoting AirCop (Reply 5):

Hum; the NCAA DII playoffs invite 24 teams, with the top 8 having a bye the first round.

They don't have as many games as DI, before the playoff begins. Instituting a lengthy playoff like 16 teams would require the regular season to be shortened and probably get rid of conference title games. This would result in an aggregate loss in income for universities, and such a such a major revamp of the system is just not going to happen.
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RE: Is It Time For The BCS To Go?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:35 am

I used to favor the playoff, but Mark May on ESPN changed my opinion of the BCS with one sentence: "Why do we have to be like the NFL?" That got me thinking. I love college football because it's not the NFL. It's actually exciting, with tradition, and a meaningful regular season. In the NFL, losing 84-0 is the same as losing 7-6. In college, the difference is huge.

No the BCS isn't perfect (although it would be a whole hell of alot better if they would put strength of schedule back in), but it does a good job.

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RE: Is It Time For The BCS To Go?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:38 am

Quoting KROC (Reply 1):
The BCS is here to stay until the the NCAA can figure out a way to make their multi-millions with a playoff system.

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RE: Is It Time For The BCS To Go?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:45 am



Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 6):
Quoting AirCop (Reply 5):

Hum; the NCAA DII playoffs invite 24 teams, with the top 8 having a bye the first round.

They don't have as many games as DI, before the playoff begins. Instituting a lengthy playoff like 16 teams would require the regular season to be shortened and probably get rid of conference title games.

If you could guarantee conferences that they get more income from the playoff system than the bowl system, they'd throw their championship games out the window in a heartbeat. What would probably happen in such a case would be that of a 16-team field, the current BCS conferences would demand 2 automatic bids each. The extra games wouldn't bother anyone; more games, particularly postseason, equals more television, which equals more money.

While such an arrangement seems to really screw the teams that aren't in that top 16, keep in mind that most conferences have revenue-sharing plans of one sort or another, so the two automatics plus whatever other income would come from the bowls left out of the system (which would probably continue to exist) would still form a large revenue base.

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