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Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:52 am

I saw this on another message board. I'm not sure if this was an act or scripted.

Set up: These two guys show up on bikes wanted to spread the word of the Lord. But then they went up against someone who knew the scriptures and things got interesting:

http://thecomforter.info/main/content/view/32/40/

click on the play arrow for the video
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:25 am

im gunna have to say, that was owned! I dont think it was scripted because they were clearly getting very frusterated.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:03 am

Tsaord:
This video is f--king excellent!
I love it!
Thanks for posting this!


Just imagine how bad it is for those in poor countries in Africa, Asia and Latin America that get harassed by these people.
Even in developed 1st world countries such as Greece, I've seen these Mormons trying to convert people and disrespect the religious believes of the people in their homeland. It is sad to see this belief system spread in the South Pacific. These guys in the video are nothing more than religious thugs!
If these guys were arrested in another country, the Western press would report it as ‘religious persecution’ even though it is far from that.

Does anyone else still want to support Mitt Romney?

I am glad these Mormon missionaries got their @$$ese handed to them from someone who had The Mark Of Cain. *




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Look that up folks




































*Look that one up.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:04 am

At least they didn't start crying as happened to someone who tried to talk God to our lab manager and found himself sadly lacking.

Things like this make me feel that convert-a-mobs like this could equally be selling insurance or double glazing.... here's your script, now go and sell..... which reminds me of my wife's uncle who was once doorstepped or phoned by a salesman for home insulation

Q "sir, do you realise how much of your heat gets out through the walls and roof"
A "yes, all of it."

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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:10 am

I know what the Mark of Cain thing is, and amazingly how it was rescinded in the late 1970s.
I've asked the Mormons about their "Mark of Cain" belief, and they still defend it. It's apocraphyl.
Funny to see them try to defend it though.
Nice video.

And Fly, where's your bike at?
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:13 am

I'd call that owned. It was funny to watch though.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:39 am

Oh my, and I tought Jehovah Witnesses were annoying...
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:07 am



Quoting Rammstein (Reply 6):
Oh my, and I tought Jehovah Witnesses were annoying...

They're more of a problem on in the Eastern part of the United States.
Mormons are a problem out West.

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 4):
And Fly, where's your bike at?

I had to park it so I can reach out a save a few sinners!  Silly
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:51 pm

All I know is that I wouldn't want to be in argument with that guy in the the park lot of a Burger King in the middle of the night.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
Does anyone else still want to support Mitt Romney?

How about Harry Ried?
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:56 pm

That was awesome, I love how when the mormons got cornered all they wanted to do was leave.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:59 pm



Quoting UAXDXer (Reply 8):
All I know is that I wouldn't want to be in argument with that guy in the the park lot of a Burger King in the middle of the night.

Why?
Is it the "Mark of Cain" thing?
Would you feel the need for the gun posted in your profile to use like a little wimp because you are 'afraid' of someone that would have the mark of Cain, or the fact that he could challenge your silly belief system?
Why would you be so afraid?

Quoting UAXDXer (Reply 8):
How about Harry Ried?

I am no fan of him either.
So your point?
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:14 pm

Best video ever! LMAO!
Oh, it's so cool how you guys go along with the church and faith thing ... I don't agree with everything said, but liked the coloured guy! Victory by arguments and KNOWLEDGE!
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:15 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
from someone who had The Mark Of Cain.

They have kind of swept that issue under the rug when they realized black folks could play football for BYU. Now you guys are cool by them...as long as you keep making TDs.  Wink

And yes, I realize I am going to Hell for saying that.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:27 pm



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 12):
They have kind of swept that issue under the rug when they realized black folks could play football for BYU. Now you guys are cool by them...as long as you keep making TDs.

Good point.
I am sure some Mormons are making money with their Starbucks franchises and making a few extra $$$ on Coca Cola.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 12):
And yes, I realize I am going to Hell for saying that.

No worries. I'll be joining you!  rotfl 
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:30 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
I am sure some Mormons are making money with their Starbucks franchises and making a few extra $$$ on Coca Cola.

Love the sinner but hate the sin. And that's not exclusive to Mormons.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:38 pm

Fly, it's now OK for Mormons to drink Coca-Cola since one of their own became the head of the company. Another "revelation".

What a crock.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:50 pm

That guy is awesome, one hell of an arguer, though his little proclamation at the end to the camera is a bit much.
 
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:57 pm

As a general rule, can't get into a discussion on the bible with a mormon, because as a group, their knowledge of the bible is not strong, since the bible comes in at #3 behind the Book of Mormon, and the D&Rs.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:58 am

I was raised mormon...and seeing this video reminds me why I dont prescribe to any particular belief system. I'm just spiritual, and much happier that way. That guy was good- he was very good with words... but he made it seem like he was not agitated with what the Missionaries were saying, when he was. Neither were very respectful of each other...and thats what I've found... with most very religious people, condemnation and judgment are quick to arrive.

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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:01 am



Quoting AA777 (Reply 18):
with most very religious people, condemnation and judgment are quick to arrive.

That is why it's best to keep your religious beliefs you yourself.
Religious missionaries that get in to trouble in other countries deserve any and all punishment handed to them.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:45 am



Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):
Religious missionaries that get in to trouble in other countries deserve any and all punishment handed to them.

Your bigotry on this subject is evident to all and sundry, 'fly. Come on man, you're way more intelligent than to go making a sweeping statement like that.

Example: Some of my very best friends are Christian missionaries are spend most of their year in India or Pakistan. Their mission? Build orphanages, hospitals, run clinics, start schools, teach skills. They do no 'preaching' but will answer questions truthfully when asked about their faith. So they were in a village in Pakistan where, apparently, it's illegal to propagate any belief other than Muslim. They weren't propagating anything, but were found to have a Bible in their possession. They spent the next seven weeks in a Pakistan prison for that facing possible death. Thankfully, the British embassy got involved and they were released.

Tell me...did they deserve that?

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Yes they did, but the sad thing is that they didn't even acknowledge that they didn't have an answer for the questions being asked of them. As LH526 already pointed out, it's refreshing to see someone who can stand their ground because they KNOW what they are talking about.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:56 am

IFEMaster:
Save it. Old argument and hardly "bigotry".
Next time you go overseas, the natives would appreciate it if you'd simply respect their culture, their religion, spend money, hit the slot machines, head for the beach and get a sun tan.  wave 
All the things you noted above don't come for free and you know damn well their is a price tag that come along with it.
I've been to 25 countries and I have seen how MOST missionaries operate.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:02 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 21):
hardly "bigotry".

That's exactly what it is. Definition from dictionary.com: "somebody with strong opinions, especially on politics, religion, or ethnicity, who refuses to accept different views"

Quoting Superfly (Reply 21):
All the things you noted above don't come for free and you know damn well their is a price tag that come along with it.

You just simply can not accept that there are people in the world who want to give their time and money to help others.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 21):
I've been to 25 countries

Whoop-dee-do. Has zero bearing on this discussion.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 21):
I have seen how MOST missionaries operate.

I doubt that very much.

Open your mind Larry.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:41 pm

My opinion about Mormonism: Its not even a religion. Its more of a 'business' (money making) than a religion itself. I see these guys all over the place in PHX and I avoid them like the plague. I pitch the deaf routine and selective hearing, too!  wave 
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:42 pm

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 22):
You just simply can not accept that there are people in the world who want to give their time and money to help others.

"Help"?
How about RESPECTING other people's belief system? Or wait, if they aren't Christian, their beliefs aren't as valid, right?

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 22):
Whoop-dee-do. Has zero bearing on this discussion.

Oh yes it does. I've seen how they behave with my own eyes and not going by some biased news outlet spoon-fed to those with like-minded beliefs. You think I am making this stuff up?
Perhaps it's a good thing you haven't travelled as much if you don't know how to leave your religious literature at home or in your hotel room. Most hotels come with a Holy Bible mind you. Is that not enough? Many of these missionaries make a lot of American tourist look really bad. Many parts of the world aren't used to seeing outsiders and many would take offense to see an outsider coming to their country disrespecting their set of beliefs. Basically, you are calling them 'savages'.

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 22):
Open your mind Larry.

Perhaps you should do the same and get out more and not be so selective in the information you gather.

By the way, I am sure the millions on the African continent with AIDS are grateful for the Christian missionaries that are so adamantly against the use of condoms.

Also worth noting, I was siding with the gentleman in the video of the thread starter. He obviously was a Christian and shot holes in these Mormon missionaries sales pitch.
HELLO, I am respecting his Christian religious beliefs!
The missionaries got owned and didn't have jack$h!t to say to the gentleman that obviously knew more about the Bible. I am sure those three guys could have easily been friends if they had met in another capacity; perhaps at a ball game, classroom, strip club, etc but NO these missionaries had to go blabbing off about their religion to a complete stranger and ended up creating an enemy out of someone who was obviously more intelligent than themselves and perhaps could have benefited from his friendship.
Do YOU believe in the Mark of Cain B.S.?
Are these the kind of motorist you follow in your squad car to the Orange county / Los Angeles county border?

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 22):
somebody with strong opinions, especially on politics, religion, or ethnicity, who refuses to accept different views

...and there is no reason on this God given earth for me to accept the views of a religion/cult that once believed (some still believe) I am going to hell based on my skin color. When I lived in the SoCal suburbs, I knew plenty of Mormons and I know there belief system pretty well. I've know several Blacks that's lived in Utah and it was not a good experience for them at all.
I have plenty of reasons NOT to accept there system of beliefs. It's not based on ignorance, it's based on their own scripture.

[Edited 2007-11-15 04:48:03]
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:41 pm



Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 22):
That's exactly what it is. Definition from dictionary.com: "somebody with strong opinions, especially on politics, religion, or ethnicity, who refuses to accept different views"

Then let's go on and research the term "missionary":

Quoting Dictionary.com:
A person strongly in favor of a program, set of principles, etc., who attempts to persuade or convert others.

So you basically accuse somebody who criticizes people who are strongly in favor of a certain belief and try to convert others of being of a strong opinion and refusing to accept different views.

Interesting question: am I ignorant when I don't accept ignorance? Am I intolerant when I don't tolerate intolerance?

I would say: no. So your accusation would be void.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:59 pm



Quoting ZakHH (Reply 25):
am I ignorant when I don't accept ignorance? Am I intolerant when I don't tolerate intolerance?

Not at all. IFEMaster was using a played out facetious tactic so commonly used by conservatives. Many (not all) of them tend to be bigoted and dense and like to find ways throw back words that liberals and other open-minded people often define them as.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:31 pm



Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Nope. It is quite clear that these missionaries will not change their mind. Anyone who is suckered into spending their time dealing with these folks and their BS is the one who gets owned.
 
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:40 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 24):
By the way, I am sure the millions on the African continent with AIDS are grateful for the Christian missionaries that are so adamantly against the use of condoms.

Not to mention the ones that gave them condoms with holes...since some claim it's not the condom itself they are against, it's the "waste of genetic material..." Which goes against those who say they are against it because they promote promiscuity

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 25):
Then let's go on and research the term "missionary":

New thread: Did IFEMaster just get Owned?

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 20):
They do no 'preaching' but will answer questions truthfully when asked about their faith.

If anyone believes that, I have a bridge located in freezing cold hell to sell you..just give me some advance notice, I'll need to relocate the flying pigs.

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 20):
where, apparently, it's

"Apparently" it's against the law to have a bible? That's like those people on To Catch a Predator that are like "oh..Apparently she is under 18" It's your job to check out local laws before you go there... And I highly doubt that's the whole story, I'm thinking they really did bible thump and got caught red handed, but they told a warped version of the story to get sympathy. Let me know what village this was in, I have tons of friends in Pakistan so maybe they know more about this alleged incident.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:45 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 24):
"Help"?
How about RESPECTING other people's belief system? Or wait, if they aren't Christian, their beliefs aren't as valid, right?

Hold your horses. Your reaction to this speaks volumes about what you REALLY believe. The fact is, I respect all people's beliefs. I might not agree with them all, but at least I'm open minded enough to listen to what they have to say and not throw statements around like "they all deserve any punishment they get."

Quoting Superfly (Reply 24):
Perhaps it's a good thing you haven't travelled as much

And you know this how? I've actually travelled more than you.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 24):
if you don't know how to leave your religious literature at home or in your hotel room.

I don't own any religious literature, and I can't say I've ever taken any from a hotel room either. Geez Lawrence, you're being very accusatory today!

Quoting Superfly (Reply 24):
Perhaps you should do the same and get out more and not be so selective in the information you gather.

Yawn. Another poor statement based on venomous speculation...

Quoting Superfly (Reply 24):
By the way, I am sure the millions on the African continent with AIDS are grateful for the Christian missionaries that are so adamantly against the use of condoms.

No need for the sarcasm, but I would stand with you on this one. However, I'm sure they really ARE grateful for the many schools, hospitals, clinics, and orphanges that are there also, as well as the Christian missionaries who hand out condoms.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 24):
Do YOU believe in the Mark of Cain B.S.?

Never heard of it until this thread. However, reading about it I think it's a modern day irrelevancy.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 24):
Are these the kind of motorist you follow in your squad car to the Orange county / Los Angeles county border?

Please clarify the question. I'm quite sure what you're asking here.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 24):
...and there is no reason on this God given earth for me to accept the views of a religion/cult that once believed (some still believe) I am going to hell based on my skin color

AGREED!!!! So why would you say that an entire GROUP of people deserves to be uniformly punished? I'm not denying that there are plenty of whack jobs out there who deserve what they get, but don't paint everyone with same brush, 'fly. It's really not necessary or factually correct.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 24):
I have plenty of reasons NOT to accept there system of beliefs. It's not based on ignorance, it's based on their own scripture.

You're now speaking of one particular belief system - Mormonism. It seems that you are informed and educated on the belief system, and have made a decision accordingly. So why make blanket, uninformed statements about a term that sits across many belief systems?

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 25):
So you basically accuse somebody who criticizes people who are strongly in favor of a certain belief and try to convert others of being of a strong opinion and refusing to accept different views.

Interesting question: am I ignorant when I don't accept ignorance? Am I intolerant when I don't tolerate intolerance?

I would say: no. So your accusation would be void.

It's not void at all. If I came across a missionary who said "convert or you go to hell", I would call them a bigot as well. But there are plenty of "missionaries" out there, I would even say that majority, who don't act that way. Heck, I once even went on a 10 day trip to Romania to help with an orphanage that was getting set up. It was a mission trip, that makes me a missionary, but I didn't once break out a Bible or Book of Mormon or Quran and start preaching it up.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 26):
Not at all. IFEMaster was using a played out facetious tactic so commonly used by conservatives. Many (not all) of them tend to be bigoted and dense and like to find ways throw back words that liberals and other open-minded people often define them as.

Lets see...facetious? No. Conservative? No. Bigoted? No. Dense? No.

It's amazing how so many "open minds" need to be "closed for repairs".
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:49 pm



Quoting Luv2cattlecall (Reply 28):
"Apparently" it's against the law to have a bible?

Not illegal to own a Bible. Illegal to actively propagate another belief system. I'm sure I can get the village name for you...

Quoting Luv2cattlecall (Reply 28):
New thread: Did IFEMaster just get Owned?



Quoting Luv2cattlecall (Reply 28):
If anyone believes that, I have a bridge located in freezing cold hell to sell you..just give me some advance notice, I'll need to relocate the flying pigs.

Why are you so vitriolic? I'm not standing on either side of a "religious" argument here, but trying to point out that painting an entire group of people with the same brush is inaccurate and uninformed. See me previous posts - I've been on a mission and not once seen or heard any preaching done. What's so hard to believe about that? Why does a "missionary" have to be tied with "preaching" when there are plenty out there who just want to help out a little?
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:13 pm

I read the online Sydney morning Hearld newspaper and I was shocked to find out that Mormons are in BIG TROUBLE...I know that mormons are forbidden to read dirty magazine and dirty stuff. But, look at that pic....it hurts my eyes! It's sinful to expose themsleves, isn't it??



Are they for real???? If so, shame on them!

Here's a link:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/people/mo...ndar/2007/11/15/1194766828283.html

www.mormonsexposed.com

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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:30 pm



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 23):
My opinion about Mormonism:

....a LOT of them are hot. And gay. And have a gay brother. Who is also hot. I don't know what they're doing over thurre but it's working for me. Silly
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:52 am



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 32):
....a LOT of them are hot. And gay. And have a gay brother. Who is also hot. I don't know what they're doing over thurre but it's working for me.

LOL!  Silly
I may have to come up with a different Halloween costume next year. I was the only hetero guy that wore a Mormon missionary Halloween costume. It was VERY popular among the gay guys here in SFO.  rotfl 

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 29):
Your reaction to this speaks volumes about what you REALLY believe.

It's well documented and I've never made how I REALLY believe a secret around here.

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 29):
"they all deserve any punishment they get."

Respect the laws of the country you visit. Gee why is that so difficult to?
If proselytizing is against the law in a given country, then why break the law? Why not respect other people's religious views? If I were a Greek Orthodox living in Greece, I'd be very offended if you came to my country and tried to convert me in my homeland. Same if I were a Muslim living in Saudi Arabia, Hindu living in India, Buddhist living in Thailand, Catholic living in Italy or a Russian Orthodox living in Russia.

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 29):
I've ever taken any from a hotel room either.

That one went over your head.

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 29):
Geez Lawrence

Who's Lawrence?

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 29):
Never heard of it until this thread. However, reading about it I think it's a modern day irrelevancy.

One of the many thinks I know about Mormonism that's helped me form my opinion of this organization. I wouldn't call it irrelevant as they've made this change within our lifetime based on economic reasons.
Once they realized how much money Black athletes can rake in for BYU and the growing Black middle-class in the 1970s, suddenly God had a new 'revelation' and they decided to revise there belief system.

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 29):
Lets see...facetious? No. Conservative? No. Bigoted? No. Dense? No.

Facetious? Yes
Conservative and bigoted? The verdict is still out on that one.

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 29):
It's amazing how so many "open minds" need to be "closed for repairs".

Cute.  Smile

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 30):
I've been on a mission and not once seen or heard any preaching done.

Were you Jake or Elroy?  rotfl 

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 30):
Why does a "missionary" have to be tied with "preaching" when there are plenty out there who just want to help out a little?

Sounds like you have a very lose definition of what a missionary is. If a guy pays a hooker in Amsterdam for services, could he be considered a missionary? After all, he is helping her out.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:34 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):
That is why it's best to keep your religious beliefs you yourself.

 checkmark 

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 29):
Perhaps it's a good thing you haven't travelled as much

Quoting Superfly,reply=21:
I've been to 25 countries and I have seen how MOST missionaries operate.

And you know this how? I've actually travelled more than you.

Just because you've "travelled" more doesn't mean you've been to more places.
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:19 pm



Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 30):
Why does a "missionary" have to be tied with "preaching" when there are plenty out there who just want to help out a little?

Because that would be called volunteering. Let's see what "missionary" means:



IN BRIEF: n. - Someone who attempts to convert others to a particular doctrine or program; adj. - Relating to or connected to a religious mission.


The word "missionary" is derived from Latin missio 'sending', the equivalent of the Greek-derived word apostle "messenger". In predominantly Judeo-Christian cultures and their languages, such as English, the term is most commonly used for missions to propagate Biblical faiths, but it applies just as well to any proselytizing creed or ideology.


A missionary is traditionally defined as a propagator of religion who works to convert those outside that community; someone who proselytizes.

The Great Commission is also given in Acts 1:8. The most compelling verse to many is found in the New Testament, where Jesus instructs the apostles to make disciples. (Matthew 28:19). This reference is understood by Christian missionaries as the Great Commission to engage in missionary work.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 33):
If a guy pays a hooker in Amsterdam for services, could he be considered a missionary?

So she'd actually be "doing the missionary" in two ways?
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:36 pm



Quoting Luv2cattlecall (Reply 35):

That's one of the best posts I've seen in a long time.

Nicely done!
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:17 pm



Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 36):
That's one of the best posts I've seen in a long time.

Nicely done!

Haha, thanks...I'm really anxious for IFEMaster's reply though...this should be good.


Random story from a UA flight: I was sitting next to what turned out to be a Jehovah's wittiness, who asked me what I was, etc (at the time, I was pre-med in college). She went on this whole spiel about how she's anti-medicine and anti-doctors...etc. I remembered my mother (a doc) telling me about how she had to let a newborn pass away while the parents argued with the legalities of their right disallow the hospital to give the child a much-needed unit of blood, so I got really worked up. After seeing my logic getting nowhere, I finally asked: Why don't you guys believe in the whole Halloween thing? It's the one day a year that it's actually ok to go around knocking on peoples' doors while dressed in black!

The whole thing went downhill-er from there and the FA noticed my frustration and was nice enough to walk over and let me know that the exit row was vacant and suggested that I move up there for more legroom. Turns out that the exit row was actually occupied but the FA said that was just her "ploy" to let me get a different seat sans-propaganda without making the reason too obvious!
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RE: Did These Mormons Get Owned?

Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:43 pm

Luv2cattlecall:
Reply #35
Excellent post!  bigthumbsup 


Reply #37
I had a similar situation last year on an Olympic Airways flight from Athens to New York. I noticed a young beautiful lady that I was very much attracted to and she was very much attracted to me. She was with a large group of artificially happy young adults that I could tell were a part of some organization. The two of us were having a wonderful conversation about our vacations. It was towards the end of my trip around the world and the end of her and her group's trip to the Mediterranean. Come to find out, she was part of some Pentecostal group that specifically were targeting Catholic and Orthodox nations to 'convert' people. They had visited Portugal, Spain, Italy and Greece. I was very disappointed and my attraction for her started to nosedive. I felt that she should have known better especially since was raised in a devout Catholic Puerto Rican family. (that is what she told me) I was also raised Catholic by the way. I know how the fundamentalist love to debate Catholics and feel that they have an 'obligation' to 'save us'. They actually believe that if you pray to Mary, you go to hell. Isn't that nuts?  Wow!
I thought I could look past her crazy religious views. We stayed in contact for several months after the flight but every conversation we had centered around converting me, though I never tried to convert her. I remembered her boasting about how there organization also goes to southeast Asia, Africa and Latin America to 'convert' people.
One thing I totally floored her on was when I had asked why her group never bothered to go to Saudi Arabia to convert Muslims or go to Israel to convert Jews?
She couldn't come up with an answer for that.
It pisses me off that this lady who I think was a total babe will end up marrying some likeminded freak al-la Larry Craig, Ted Haggard or David Vitters.  Sad
These organizations should only convert the ugly girls that nobody wants.  rotfl 
I didn't include that part in my world trip last year.
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