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The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:22 pm

I am sitting here at parent teacher conferences and nobody ever wants to talk to the auto teacher. That got me thinking about pitiful cars. I am not talking about sad old rusted junk that used to be cool. I am talking about cars that people made fun of when they were new too. A few came to mind:
GEO Metro/Pontiac Firefly
Renault Le Car
AMC/Renault Alliance
Any 1960s NSU
Ford Aspire
Chevrolet Sprint
US models of the Fiat 128

Some sad cars had inner charm like Chevetts with plaid seats and the Gremlin with the Levi package. What are some pitiful cars you can think of?
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:23 pm

Nobody better drag the Merkur XR4TI into this, XR4TI crew is tight!
 
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:28 pm



Quoting C172Akula (Reply 1):
Nobody better drag the Merkur XR4TI into this

I agree. That car really isn't pitiful. It was cool new, I really liked it, I also liked the Scorpio.
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:28 pm

Visually, the Pontiac Aztek and Chevrolet Avalanche are about as pitiful as it gets. The first examples, in particular. Absolutely wretched.

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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:29 pm

Yogo
Fiero
Pinto
XR4Ti




Just kidding on the last one  Smile
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:30 pm



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 3):
the Pontiac Aztek

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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:32 pm

The AMC Pacer
The AMC Pacer (Because it needed to be said twice)

The Trabant, though I still think they are cool, I've never driven one, but never the less I think it would be fun to drive here for the looks one would get in Detroit!

Ford Pinto
Chevy Vega and its' sister the Monza (sp)

My Audi TT, that was the biggest PoC built.
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:33 pm

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/N1120A/IMG_2437.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g220/UTA_flyinghigh/Voitureuhs/Willoumobiles/Golf/willoumobile_golf_1.jpg
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http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g220/UTA_flyinghigh/Voitureuhs/Willoumobiles/Civic/civic_ex_11.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g220/UTA_flyinghigh/Voitureuhs/Willoumobiles/Neon/neon_2.jpg

And especially:
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:36 pm



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 4):
Yogo

The Yugo, how could I forget? The GVX and convertibles model are the saddest. The GVX was the sports model it had a small hood scoop.

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 4):
Fiero

Those were popular, the V-6 model is kind of a hot rod.

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 4):
Pinto

That was a turd, but the engine was great. Ford used a variation of that engine into the 2000s. As far as sad cars go I like the Pinto Wagon with plastic wood. Another Pinto plus is the fact that it is rear wheel drive. That leaves it open for some cool customs. Every now and then I'll see a tubbed Pinto with a 460 under the hood.
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:36 pm

Bloody Renault Twingo - every asshole driving one of those things thinks he's the local Speed monitor, and drives deliberately 10 km/h under the speed limit just to piss people off. Listen, just because YOU bought a piece of shit car, doesn't mean the rest of us have - some of us can actually go 70km/h without falling to bits or exploding. Bastard stupid French bastards  grumpy 
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:37 pm

Anything that has 4 cylinders, 4 doors, no muffler and is front wheel drive but has a huge spoiler on the trunk providing down force to wheels that are not even driving the car.
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:38 pm



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 6):
The Trabant, though I still think they are cool, I've never driven one, but never the less I think it would be fun to drive here for the looks one would get in Detroit!

I've driven one, and actually had fun. Skinny tires and slippery cobbles make for a good time, even if you don't have any power to work with.

As the old saying goes, it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow.  Wink

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Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:38 pm

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 4):
Yogo

Don't you mean Yugo? 

Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
Ford Aspire

Let's not forget its predecessor, the Festiva.

Others to add:
The Korean-built Pontiac LeMans from the late-80s.
Fiat Strada

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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:41 pm



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 6):
The Trabant



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 6):
I think it would be fun to drive here for the looks one would get in Detroit!

If you ever get one call me and we will cruise Woodward. I would love to drive one. The US will not allow an import of one, but on the grey market it would be doable. Michigan would be ok to license it too, since we have no inspection of any kind. The secretary of states office would know anything about it and just register it. A buddy did that; he registered an AM General military vehicle as a regular 1/2 ton pickup truck.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 6):
Chevy Vega

My mom had a 76 Vega wagon with plaid seats. The Vega was a real turd with the aluminium engine. You can drop a small block Chevy in them easy.
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:48 pm

Smart Cars. Pitiful.
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:54 pm

The Hillman Imp.

My mum had one of those for a few years. Awful, awful car...

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Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:58 pm

Forgot this one:

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Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:00 pm



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 10):
Anything that has 4 cylinders, 4 doors, no muffler and is front wheel drive but has a huge spoiler on the trunk providing down force to wheels that are not even driving the car.

I always look at those cars in traffic and the drivers probably think I am admiring their cars, but I am really making fun of them in my head. I once had a student who stuck on every glue on item they had at Autozone (or so it seemed) He even glued felt to the outside of his car and painted the side windows black, yes painted.

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 12):
Let's not forget its predecessor, the Festiva.

I did a valve job on one of those once. Around the D I see more of those than Aspires.

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 12):
The Korean-built Pontiac LeMans from the late-80s

I tried to sell a service manual for one of those... Nobody wanted it. I think they are all gone and there are non left to service.
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:03 pm

I saw a pretty unusual car while I was in New Zealand.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2098/2035382054_6c387835b7_o.jpg

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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:13 pm

A short list:

Ford Taurus
Chevrolet Lumina
Chrysler TC "By Maserati"
Toyopet Crown (Toyota sure learned from that mistake)

Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
Renault Le Car

The Renault 5 wasn't exactly a poor car in France from what I have heard, it just was really poorly executed here in the US.

Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
Ford Aspire

Add an extra s in there  Wink

Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
Chevrolet Sprint

Ah, the Metro's predecessor. 3 cylinders just isn't a good sign.

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 4):
Yogo

Yugo's were rebadged Fiats built in Yugoslavia and sold for $1000 less than the cheapest car on the market at the time. Absolute junk.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 6):

The Trabant, though I still think they are cool, I've never driven one, but never the less I think it would be fun to drive here for the looks one would get in Detroit!

There is something to be said for a car that can have its engine rebuilt by the side of the road within an hour.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 6):

My Audi TT, that was the biggest PoC built.

Too bad. They are generally good cars.

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 7):

What in the world is wrong with my M3, and why are you using that picture anyway?
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:16 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 19):

What in the world is wrong with my M3, and why are you using that picture anyway?

Oh, is that your picture?  angel 
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:20 pm



Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 12):
Don't you mean Yugo?

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Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 12):

Let's not forget its predecessor, the Festiva.

And its predecessor the Festia. My friend had one we used to take off road. We launched it off all 4 wheels on more then a few times.
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:26 pm

 
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:26 pm

So 777236ER, what other pictures of members do you have saved and easy access to. Thats a bit disconcerning.
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:32 pm



Quoting JetsGo (Reply 23):
Thats a bit disconcerning.

You mean it removes concern?

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 23):
So 777236ER, what other pictures of members do you have saved and easy access to

Pretty much anyone would have easy access to that given that it is in my photobucket account.
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:38 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 24):
Pretty much anyone would have easy access to that given that it is in my photobucket account.

Or looked at the last 'post a picture of your car' thread.

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 23):
So 777236ER, what other pictures of members do you have saved and easy access to. Thats a bit disconcerning.

It's true that I don't concern many people, but I should given the access I have to people's accounts.
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:49 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 19):
Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
Ford Aspire

Add an extra s in there

At Ford we called them Ass Fire or Expire

Quoting N1120A (Reply 19):
There is something to be said for a car that can have its engine rebuilt by the side of the road within an hour.

You can rebuild the automatic transaxle in a Ford Escort (US model) without taking the trans out.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 19):
Ah, the Metro's predecessor. 3 cylinders just isn't a good sign.

One liter (61 cubic inches) of fury.  Silly

Quoting N1120A (Reply 19):
The Renault 5 wasn't exactly a poor car in France from what I have heard, it just was really poorly executed here in the US.

I worked with a guy who bought a Le Car new and said it had rust on it with a week. He was able to return it and get another one. That was started to rust in six months.
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:50 pm



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 21):
Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 12):

Let's not forget its predecessor, the Festiva.

And its predecessor the Festia.

You're a little too fast with the key-typing; I believe you meant (for the benefit of the others here) FiestaBig grin

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 21):
We launched it off all 4 wheels on more then a few times.

That must've been a hoot.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 19):
Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
Chevrolet Sprint

Ah, the Metro's predecessor. 3 cylinders just isn't a good sign.

Yeah, but it got 37 City/43 mpg Highway; a CAFE darling.  duck  Big grin

Three more to add:
Plymouth Cricket
Dodge Colt
Datsun F10
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:53 pm



Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 27):
Datsun F10

I had an F10....I can confirm it as a PoS!
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:55 pm

The Honda Ridgeline (U.S. version) looks like a carbon copy of a Chevy truck.... And its pretty FUGLY...doesn't even look like a Honda at all.
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:56 pm

Ford Mustang II - an overblown Pinto with a 4 cylinder engine trying to pretend to be a muscle car!!!

Even though there was a V-6 option and eventually a V-8 - for most people 1974-79 was a period when Ford failed to produce a Mustang.
 
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:58 pm



Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 27):
Plymouth Cricket

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Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:00 pm



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 29):
The Honda Ridgeline (U.S. version) looks like a carbon copy of a Chevy truck.... And its pretty FUGLY...doesn't even look like a Honda at all.

No way, is it a copy of a Chevy. It is front wheel drive. It is also not full frame.
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:05 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 32):
No way, is it a copy of a Chevy. It is front wheel drive. It is also not full frame.

I didn't say it was a Chevy. What I sad, Falstaff, was....

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 29):
...looks like a carbon copy of a Chevy truck...

Please....read throughly next time, Falstaff.
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:07 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 26):

One liter (61 cubic inches) of fury.

Oooh yeah baby!! Then again, the 1 liter versions of the MINI are actual cars  Wink

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 27):

Yeah, but it got 37 City/43 mpg Highway; a CAFE darling.

When you think about it, that absolutely sucks for a 3-cyl car.

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 27):
Dodge Colt

That wasn't exactly a terrible car, especially toward the end.

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 27):

You're a little too fast with the key-typing; I believe you meant (for the benefit of the others here) Fiesta.

The European Fiesta was actually a pretty good car. The US Festiva was absolute junk. At least Ford finally did something right with the Focus, despite the fact that they don't bring some of the best versions of that car to the US.

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 30):
Ford Mustang II - an overblown Pinto with a 4 cylinder engine trying to pretend to be a muscle car!!!

Yeah, that thing was a PoS. Don't tell Superfly though  Wink
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:12 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 34):
Yeah, that thing was a PoS. Don't tell Superfly though

He really digs the Ghia model with the vinyl top. I have seen old ads from the 1970s, in Hot Rod magazine, for vinyl top and landau bar kits for 1969-70 Mustangs.

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 11):
As the old saying goes, it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow

My 1972 Mercedes-Benz 220D was SLOW, but very fun.
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:14 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 34):
The European Fiesta was actually a pretty good car

That car was sold in the USA in the late 70s.
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:22 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 24):
removes concern



Quoting 777236ER (Reply 25):
don't concern many people

Gosh darnit, wrong word!  dopey 

Anyway, I would have to say my 2000 Dodge Stratus is up there somewhere on the list. I baby that sucker, and yet the door panel is falling off for no reason, the dashboard vibrates to the beat of the engine, and all the weather stripping is coming off. It gets driven maybe twenty miles a day, only carrying me, yet can't seem to do the job.

Chrysler or a lemon?
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:37 pm

The Ford Edsel

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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:45 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 8):
The Yugo, how could I forget?

Just wondering that myself.

How could anyone old enough forget the first Hyundai sold in the USA back in the late 60's. Claimed 66 mph. One door and it was at the front, you basically had to fall into the car.
 
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:55 pm



Quoting AirCop (Reply 39):
How could anyone old enough forget the first Hyundai sold in the USA back in the late 60's

I consider myself a lover of odd cars and I had no idea Hyundai sold cars in the USA prior to the 1986 model year. Those 80s models were not that good.

Another crummy Korean turd was the Dihatsu Charade. It was the last car sold in the USA that had a carburetor, although EFI was an option found on most of them. The 1990 Cadillac Brougham was the last American car to have a carb.
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:00 pm



Quoting AirCop (Reply 39):

How could anyone old enough forget the first Hyundai sold in the USA back in the late 60's.

Actually, the first Hyundai in the US was the Excel, in 1986, which came with much fanfare due to its low price tag. It then became (in)famous for two things, the Rodney King trial and fuel filter clogs. The filter clogs, and subsequent overheating, were easily cured by pulling over, pulling the filter out and banging it on the ground to clean it out. The Rodney King link is that King was driving and Excel when he was pulled over and beaten nearly to death by police. Their claims of his rate of speed were dubious, as they claimed he was traveling near 90 mph, which was damn near impossible in that little dung box.
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:15 pm



Quoting 777236ER (Reply 25):
It's true that I don't concern many people, but I should given the access I have to people's accounts.

Werent you supposed to delete yourself and you didnt? Why are you even still on this board???

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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:17 pm



Quoting 777236ER (Reply 7):

Well... Lets see your car then...
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:27 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 41):
Actually, the first Hyundai in the US was the Excel, in 1986,

You are so right,after a little research I found the car and it was a 1968 Subaru 360..Sorry about that Hyundai fans..
 
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:49 pm



Quoting AirCop (Reply 44):
I found the car and it was a 1968 Subaru 360

I have seen photos of those. Wierd heh?

Quoting AirCop (Reply 44):
Sorry about that Hyundai fans..

I wouldn't worry about insulting Hyundai fans I doubt their are any.  faint 
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:55 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 34):
The European Fiesta was actually a pretty good car. The US Festiva was absolute junk

Let's keep our models straight, here. I might not have my model years quite right, but I'm thinking the Fiesta was late 70's to mid 80's, while the Festiva was late 80's to early 90's. The Fiesta was imported to the US from Europe and was a decent car for the time - roughly equivalent to a VW Rabbit. The Festiva was a rebadged Kia which was Ford's lowest priced car.

In the early 90's I was in need of economical transportation and purchased a two year old Festiva for a bit over $2,000 US. I drove that car for 145,000 miles and it never let me down (although at the end it was pretty tired). It didn't impress anyone and acceleration could best be described as "leisurely," but it was reliable, surprisingly spacious inside, and cheap to drive and maintain.
 
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Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:56 am



Quoting PhilGil (Reply 46):
but it was reliable,

You got very, very lucky. The Festiva generally is a rather unreliable car.
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:02 am

Sorry if any of these are already mentioned.

In my opinion pitiful cars include...

Nissan MIcra (all generations)
Vauxhall Agila
Citroen Burlingo
Toyota Yaris
SmartCar
Mazda MX-5 (around my area many are owned by those is the mid-life crisis, so for me they portray that image whenever I see one)


I'm still dreaming for the day I'll own a new Land Rover Discovery or Range Rover....
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RE: The Most Pitiful Cars Ever?

Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:07 am

Here's the best example in my opinion of the most pitiful car ever:

Citroen Ami 6



They couldn't have come up with a more ugly design.  vomit 

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