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ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:34 am

Haven't seen any article yet, but just saw during the West Virginia-Cincinnati telecast that ESPN is saying Lloyd Carr will step down as Michigan's coach on Monday.

I know he's been OSU's whipping boy for 6 years, but it seems he's a class act, and that, as Kirk Herbstreit said in the pregame and during the OSU-UM game, he remembers why he was hired-not to just win football games, but to positively impact and mold the lives of the young men he recruits. He's been a credit to an outstanding University, and I wish him well in whatever he does now.
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:33 pm



Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
I know he's been OSU's whipping boy for 6 years, but it seems he's a class act, and that, as Kirk Herbstreit said in the pregame and during the OSU-UM game, he remembers why he was hired-not to just win football games, but to positively impact and mold the lives of the young men he recruits. He's been a credit to an outstanding University, and I wish him well in whatever he does now.

He is, and in all the years that he was the head man, Michigan was never in trouble with the NCAA, his players graduated, not the same can be said for Tressel at Ohio State, whom I believe does a great job in promoting Ohio State, but he has goes to the edge (Carlett) in recruiting everywhere he's been.
 
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:05 pm

Its official now.

A sad sad day to be a Ohio State fan.  Wink
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:19 pm



Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):
Michigan was never in trouble with the NCAA, his players graduated, not the same can be said for Tressel at Ohio State

Keep in mind, most of those troubles were with Cooper recruits, NOT Jimmy T recruits...
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:39 pm



Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 3):
A sad sad day to be a Ohio State fan.

Lol, even worse if you're the Sweater Vest!
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:02 pm



Quoting KROC (Reply 5):
even worse if you're the Sweater Vest!

ALWAYS, ALWAYS Fear the sweater vest!
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:44 pm



Quoting KROC (Reply 5):
Lol, even worse if you're the Sweater Vest!

 Silly

Now to discuss (REALISTIC!!!) possibilities for the new HC position. Its a damn shame those assistants will be around another year! Deboring should go as well.

Obviously all of the talk is about Les Miles being the front runner. What about the others? Tedford (Cal), Petersen (Boise St) , Leavitt (S. Florida), Bob Stoops (Oklahoma), Bobby Petrino (NFL - ATL) or even Urban Meyer (Florida). All have been mentioned as a possible successor.

I cannot believe Ferentz and Harbaugh are being mentioned.  Confused
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:59 pm



Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 7):
or even Urban Meyer (Florida).

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

 vomit 


I've also heard mention of Bill Cowher. Now, THAT would be interesting, and different.
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:02 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 8):

I've also heard mention of Bill Cowher. Now, THAT would be interesting, and different.

How would that be different??? Because he was an NFL coach? If you thought Carr was too conservative, he ain't got nothing on Cowher. We don't want him.

I forgot to mention Gruden is also being mentioned.

[Edited 2007-11-19 13:03:14]
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:15 pm



Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 9):
How would that be different??? Because he was an NFL coach?

No, it's because Cowher is a mean son-of-a-bitch. He's nurturing in a completely different way than Carr.

I don't see the line between NFL coaching and College coaching being all that big anymore. At least, I think the "elite" college teams are coached similarly to NFL teams. If anything, it's harder to be a college coach with more people to manage, and do-it-yourself recruiting, so we'd have to see if he'd be up to the new challenge.

Gruden won't work - no Midwestern ties.
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:24 pm



Quoting D L X (Reply 10):
No, it's because Cowher is a mean son-of-a-bitch. He's nurturing in a completely different way than Carr.

I don't see the line between NFL coaching and College coaching being all that big anymore. At least, I think the "elite" college teams are coached similarly to NFL teams.

He would be boring. And I never said the line was big.

Quoting D L X (Reply 10):
Gruden won't work - no Midwestern ties.

I've sat back and watched your discussions about Michigan football for some time, and honestly feel you do not know about half the stuff you speak of 97% of the time. No midwestern ties? Oh my.  Yeah sure
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:25 pm

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 11):
I've sat back and watched your discussions about Michigan football for some time, and honestly feel you do not know about half the stuff you speak of 97% of the time. No midwestern ties? Oh my.

Well, if I'm wrong, correct me.  

I was just reporting what I had heard. Clearly, I heard wrong. I just looked up his history and clearly, he has midwestern ties. Mea culpa.

[Edited 2007-11-19 13:28:31]
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:05 pm



Quoting D L X (Reply 10):
don't see the line between NFL coaching and College coaching being all that big anymore.

Try telling that to Pete Carroll and Nick Saban...

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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:49 pm

It looks as if this parting has been a really classy one, unlike a lot of college football resignations. Apparently, Carr will still work for the university and collect his salary and he also secured 2 year contract extensions for his assistants, which is a really big thing.

Quoting D L X (Reply 8):

I've also heard mention of Bill Cowher.

Baaaad idea. Cowher was a great pro coach, but would make a lousy college coach.

Quoting D L X (Reply 10):
No, it's because Cowher is a mean son-of-a-bitch.

Not particularly with his players. I hear he is actually a big softy with a loud bark.

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 13):

Try telling that to Pete Carroll and Nick Saban...

And Steve Spurrier.
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:25 am



Quoting FLYB6JETS (Reply 6):
ALWAYS, ALWAYS Fear the sweater vest!

Unless you're a Florida Gator and then you show them what real college football is.  Wink

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 7):
Bobby Petrino (NFL - ATL) or even Urban Meyer (Florida).

I'd trust Petrino as far as I could through that crooked SOB. As for Meyer as a candidate...please...he's not going anywhere. And DLX would love to have a proven winner despite his protesting.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 14):
It looks as if this parting has been a really classy one

I think it was more of a pre-emptive one before he didn't get to leave on his terms.
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:29 am



Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 13):
Try telling that to Pete Carroll and Nick Saban...

And don't forget the OBC.

He had a great time in Washington.
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:49 am



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 15):

I think it was more of a pre-emptive one before he didn't get to leave on his terms.

Which is why it was classy on both sides. He left on his terms, the assistants were taken care of and everyone looks good.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 15):

Unless you're a Florida Gator and then you show them what real college football is.

8-3? 5-3 in conference?
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:55 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 15):

Unless you're a Florida Gator and then you show them what real college football is.

8-3? 5-3 in conference?

I'm talking about the beatdown provided to OSU last year in football. And you can add basketball to that as well. I never claimed we would be great this year and you don't want me to pull in your UCLA team as collateral damage now do you. Until OSU can beat us on any field or court any where in the world we will not be fearful of the sweatervest.
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:03 am



Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 7):
or even Urban Meyer (Florida).

I'm pretty sure Meyer is staying put for a longggggg while.

Maybe you can make a run at him in like 7-10 years.
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:28 am



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 15):
And DLX would love to have a proven winner despite his protesting.

There are plenty of worthwhile candidates other than Urban Meyer.

And it's not like he was all that hot this year. Maybe he peaked early.
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:34 am

Guarantee Urban is on the "List of 30". Michigan is ranked like # 2 in the best job department. Its realistic.

I would love to have him, he owns ol' sweater vest and the Buckeyes.

BTW,

Martin was on a radio show today and said that it doesn't have to be a Michigan man and the search would also include NFL coaches.

 Smile

[Edited 2007-11-19 20:35:54]
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:54 am



Quoting D L X (Reply 20):
And it's not like he was all that hot this year. Maybe he peaked early.

I know you're just trying to get a rise out of me. He at least did something Carr perpetually had trouble with...beat the Sweatervest.  Wink
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:04 am



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 22):
I know you're just trying to get a rise out of me. He at least did something Carr perpetually had trouble with...beat the Sweatervest.

Question, why are you so intently interested in Michigan all the time? Just curious. Even when you win, you're envious.
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:21 am



Quoting D L X (Reply 23):
Even when you win, you're envious.

Envious? Not sure where you get that idea as I've never been envious of the Wolverines at any time in any of my years of following college football.

Quoting D L X (Reply 23):
Question, why are you so intently interested in Michigan all the time?

I'm not intently interested. I'm just offering my opinion on the current situation. As for earlier in the year it was just a piling on mainly in an attempt to get a rise out of you after the team failed in their first couple of games. Childish for sure but like my signature says....

"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."

Words to live by my friend. Words to live by.  Wink
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:11 am



Quoting D L X (Reply 20):
And it's not like he was all that hot this year. Maybe he peaked early.

Maybe he isn't that good...yet. He won a national Title with Ron Zook's players, not his. maybe he is the next Larry Coker.
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:54 pm



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 18):
And you can add basketball to that as well.



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 18):
you don't want me to pull in your UCLA team as collateral damage now do you.

You mean the Number 1 UCLA Bruins?  Wink
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:18 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 26):
You mean the Number 1 UCLA Bruins?

You mean the tied for #1 UCLA Bruins?

The Heels were there first.  Wink
 
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:42 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 26):
You mean the Number 1 UCLA Bruins?

You mean the now ranked #1 UCLA Bruins that for two years straught couldn't get past Florida on the court and were never even in the game? I don't care what you are now...until you beat us on the court you get the "OWNED" stamp right on your forehead.  Wink

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 28):
http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/2007/11/...ay-hello-to-my-little-ferentz.html

http://www.hawkeyelounge.com/showthread.php?t=17099

If this is true, I want Carr back!

Ferentz? WTF?! Boring Midwest football at its finest.

And what's the whole Grand Valley thing? Wasn't that the university in Dangerfield's "Back to School" with the Hooters mascot?  Wink
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:58 pm



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 29):
And what's the whole Grand Valley thing?

Brian Kelly currently coaching at Cincinnati, turned Grand Valley State into a DII powerhouse, winning several national titles, and it as continued after he left. After GVSU, he went to Central Michigan and in a couple of years, became a winning team also. Kelly wouldn't be a bad choice at UM, and since UM doesn't like paying their coaches Saban type money, Kelly runs a clean program, he would be a good fit.
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:18 pm



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 29):

You mean the now ranked #1 UCLA Bruins that for two years straught couldn't get past Florida on the court and were never even in the game? I don't care what you are now...until you beat us on the court you get the "OWNED" stamp right on your forehead.

Lets see how you do without your big men.
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:32 pm

Bill Martin said he is fully prepared to pay 2-3 million a year for a new coach... However, lately I dont trust a thing this guy says. Apparently he was recently quoted as saying its more important to him to have a coach that is a gentlemen then to win football games. While I fully agree that you don't want someone that is an ass in front of the cameras, you need someone with a little fire. Its a fine line.

Apparently his list of candidates is lead by none other than Farentz from Iowa. I cannot believe what I am seeing. Hopefully, Farentz turns it down.
 
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:15 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 31):
Lets see how you do without your big men.

It's a rebuilding year and any Gator fan who claims otherwise doesn't know squat about basketball. We;ll just hold on to what we have from the past two years.

And yes, I think UCLA has the ability to win it all this year.
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RE: ESPN: Lloyd Carr To Call It Quits Monday

Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:50 pm

No sources to cite other than local radio, but there is some background talk that Les Miles may be leaving LSU after this weekend's SEC championship game.

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