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Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:56 pm

What do you think about Amish people? Any Amish a.netters?

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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:01 pm

I spent a good deal of time in Lancaster, PA and the surrounding area for a while in 1987-1988, and I tought it was interesting to see Amish living as they do in the midst of modern society. Good, solid people from what I can tell. Other than that, they're people just like us, so I really don't have much more to add.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:03 pm



Quoting AlexEU (Thread starter):
What do you think about Amish people?

The same I think of any people who let religion run their lives - completely  crazy  hypnotized  !

Quoting AlexEU (Thread starter):
Any Amish a.netters?

Highly unlikely. They don't use electricity or any type of engine-powered transportation. A.net can safely apply for ISO 69-666 Certificate (Amish-Free Guaranteed)  duck 
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:04 pm

Get ready for a rant


I THINK THEY SHOULD STAY THE HELL OFF OUR ROADS!! THEY DON'T PAY FOR THEM SO THE SHOULD STAY OFF THEM!! Nothing makes the heart race quicker then cresting a hill and seeing one of those damn buggies in the middle of the road going 3 1/2 miles an hour.

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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:10 pm



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 3):
Get ready for a rant


I THINK THEY SHOULD STAY THE HELL OFF OUR ROADS!! THEY DON'T PAY FOR THEM SO THE SHOULD STAY OFF THEM!! Nothing makes the heart race quicker then cresting a hill and seeing one of those damn buggies in the middle of the road going 3 1/2 miles an hour.

Rant over

Run them over..  Wink

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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:40 pm

I don't know much about the Amish other than what I seen on TV. I guess they are much the same as the Mennonites that we have here in Southern Ontario. I think the general impression people have of them is positive - they're seen to be good people with a quaint life style. They get pretty good press.

For myself, I've always thought that if you were to scratch the surface of that impression you'd find the usual intolerance that most religious sects have. I seem to have read that if they don't toe the line they are "shunned" which basically means they get kicked out.

I don't understand how they think they can be nearer to God by living the lifestyle of my great-grandfather.

We tolerate them to be among us. We fought the wars that kept them and us free.

I guess in summary, I don't have a problem with them. But they owe me; I don't owe them.
 
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:42 pm

I've never had a problem with them. Their lifestyle isn't my idea of a good time, but if it works for them I have no issues.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:56 pm



Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 6):

I've never had a problem with them. Their lifestyle isn't my idea of a good time, but if it works for them I have no issues.

What about the children though? They don't get offered the choice that you or I do. Is that fair on them?

It's a difficult one, because you don't want to interfere in a society, but I can't help feeling very uneasy about the kids are not given the option. If they were to reject material things, fine, but why do I suspect that they wouldn't?
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:07 pm



Quoting Banco (Reply 7):
What about the children though? They don't get offered the choice that you or I do. Is that fair on them?

I think if you are born into that lifestyle and are taught from day one to fear the modern lifestyle then it doesn't matter to them. The only thing I feel sorry for the kids for is the sexual abuse they supposedly endure at the hands of their male relatives with nothing being done to stop it.

Personally I like to see the buggy's out on the roads around Lancaster, PA and in upstate NY. I have no tolerance for people out on the road in modern cars without a gas pedal (i.e. slow drivers) but I do have a lot of tolerance for the Amish buggys, probably because I am an animal lover and wouldn't like to scare or injure a horse!
 
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:11 pm

I grew up in western PA in the country. There were a few amish farms in the area. I really never cared for their lifestyle but it doesnt hurt me or society any. Let them live that way if they want to. Its not hurting anyone.

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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:16 pm



Quoting Banco (Reply 7):
What about the children though? They don't get offered the choice that you or I do. Is that fair on them?

Some do through "rumspringer" although I'm not sure if all of them do. But they do get to leave for a period of time when they are about 16 years old, should they choose.

Quoting Banco (Reply 7):
It's a difficult one

Absolutely.

I personally wouldn't want to interfere with them raising their children. It's probably not what you or I would want, but I'm not sure they'd like what we have either.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:16 pm



Quoting BigOrange (Reply 8):
I think if you are born into that lifestyle and are taught from day one to fear the modern lifestyle then it doesn't matter to them.

No, it probably doesn't. But only because they don't know any better, because it's driven into them from the start. I can't help but think that if they were given the option, they might not be quite so keen to live that kind of life.

I don't know. I can well understand the argument of respecting the freedom of people to live their lives how they see fit, but it just leaves me a little uneasy when it is the children that have that decision made for them. I know that the point will be made that ALL societies do that, and it's true. I just wonder how far it would be tolerated if a new group decided to go down the route the Amish have gone.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:32 pm



Quoting Banco (Reply 7):
What about the children though? They don't get offered the choice that you or I do. Is that fair on them?

Then what about Jewish, Muslim, Catholic, Baptist etc children. Nobody asks them about their religion. Why should it bother anyone how they raise their children? If someone brought up in the Amish faith want to leave he / she can. Their family may not like it but I'm sure we all know examples of families "shunning" a relative for whatever reason.

I grew up in Lancaster County. I even had a chance to be an extra in the movie "Witness". Unfortunately I had a test at school and wasn't allowed to go to the casting. As a kid I thought they were a bit strange, as a teen I thought what the F*ck??? As an adult I think they should be left alone. They are peaceful, law abiding citizens. Do they believe they are above non-Amish? No, I don't think so. Do they believe they are 100% infallible? Probably not. Do they think their religion / way of life is correct? Yes, probably. But so do Muslims, Baptists, Mormans, etc. Okay, the issue with taxes is a bit annoying but when was the last time you read about an Amish businessman cheating the company out of profits or an Amish run business laying off workers and moving their plant somewhere else to stay "competitive".

Also, they are responsible for lots of cash rolling into the County. If you get annoyed at the buggies on Routes 23 or 30, well the tour buses from Philly, DC and Baltimore are just as bad.

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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:34 pm



Quoting Cgnnrw (Reply 12):
Then what about Jewish, Muslim, Catholic, Baptist etc children. Nobody asks them about their religion

Precisely. More indoctrination. But that's not one for here.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:37 pm

What worries me is the polygamy and abuse of women and children but I guess there are worse offenders...

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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:51 pm



Quoting Banco (Reply 13):
Precisely. More indoctrination. But that's not one for here.

Indotrination is not just religion. What about politics? What raising a child to be a vegan? The Amish are just more obvious about it I guess.

Also, many people in the "Old World" forget the Amish like many other religious groups were forced to leave in order to escape repression and persecution at the hands of an "enlightend" Europe and ended up in the "New World".
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:36 pm



Quoting Cgnnrw (Reply 15):
Indotrination is not just religion. What about politics?

Really? When was the last time you heard reference to a Republican child? A Marxist child? Yet call them a Christian child or Jewish child and it's acceptable.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:03 pm



Quoting Banco (Reply 7):
It's a difficult one, because you don't want to interfere in a society, but I can't help feeling very uneasy about the kids are not given the option.



Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 10):
Some do through "rumspringer" although I'm not sure if all of them do. But they do get to leave for a period of time when they are about 16 years old, should they choose.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumspringa

Yes. There is acutally a good documentary about this time. Some of the kids go out, party, buy cars, work, and then decide to come back. Some of the kids decide not to. The Amish purposely force a time for the child to decide before they are even allowed to be baptised. It is not forceful.

http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/may/amish/

Banco, I know that you are very anti-religious but in all seriousness the Amish are much more open minded about their beliefs than most others. That is why they don't allow themselves to be baptised until they decide as an adult.

Personally, I have alot of respect for the Annabaptist work ethic. I was also very impressed with how they reacted to the school house killing last year. Almost immediately they all forgave the killer. They do as they believe. Also note that they don't actively recruit.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:11 pm



Quoting YOWza (Reply 14):
What worries me is the polygamy and abuse of women and children but I guess there are worse offenders...

I've never heard of this....where do you get this information from?
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:13 pm

The Amish do not have polygamy.

The only ones who still practice polygamy in the US is an offshoot of the Mormons.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:17 pm



Quoting Banco (Reply 11):
No, it probably doesn't. But only because they don't know any better, because it's driven into them from the start. I can't help but think that if they were given the option, they might not be quite so keen to live that kind of life.

There are a million things you could say that about: Vegetarianism. A "no TV" house. I could go on.
 
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:20 pm



Quoting AlexEU (Thread starter):
Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Christians - What Do You Think Of Them
Muslims - What Do You Think Of Them
Buddhists - What Do You Think Of Them

Shoe Salesmen - What Do You Think Of Them
Janitors - What Do You Think Of Them
Heterosexuals - What Do You Think Of Them
Humans - What Do You Think Of Them

I don't. They are people just like me who live their own life the way they think is right.
 
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:22 pm



Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 17):
Banco, I know that you are very anti-religious but in all seriousness the Amish are much more open minded about their beliefs than most others

I'm only anti-indoctrination in this instance. As I said earlier, I find this a difficult one, and really didn't mean it to end up in a tit-for-tat exchange on the matter.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:28 pm



Quoting Banco (Reply 22):
As I said earlier, I find this a difficult one, and really didn't mean it to end up in a tit-for-tat exchange on the matter.

I hear ya.

There once was a woman who was quite begat.
She had three babies named Nat, Pat, and Tat.
She said it was fun in the breeding,
but found it was hell in the feeding
when she saw there was no tit for Tat.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:43 pm



Quoting Banco (Reply 16):


Quoting Cgnnrw (Reply 15):
Indotrination is not just religion. What about politics?

Really? When was the last time you heard reference to a Republican child? A Marxist child? Yet call them a Christian child or Jewish child and it's acceptable.

You don't hear of Republican children or Marxist children, but they are still indoctrinated with the beliefs of their parents and/or governments!

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 23):
There once was a woman who was quite begat.
She had three babies named Nat, Pat, and Tat.
She said it was fun in the breeding,
but found it was hell in the feeding
when she saw there was no tit for Tat

{ROFL} {ROFL} {ROFL}

Never heard that one before!
 
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:03 pm

Looks as if I'll have take upon myself the task of posting the obvious:



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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:15 pm



Quoting AlexEU (Thread starter):
Any Amish a.netters?

Funniest thing said all week!
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:24 pm

Watch to move Devil's Playground. Very interesting on growing up Amish and how they HAVE A CHOICE whether they want to continue to be Amish, or go lead a normal 21st Century life.

Personally, I think it's stupid. But when they reach a certain age, they are allowed to have cars, phones, drink, smoke, drugs, all that stuff. But then they are forced to decide whether to go back and lead the life, or continue on away from the Amish lifestyle. So they experience both worlds.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0293088/

http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/may/amish/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil's_Playground_(film)
 
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:29 pm

All I can think of is Tim Allen in For Richer or Poorer when I hear Amish.
 
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:37 pm



Quoting Nuori5084 (Reply 26):
Funniest thing said all week!

Even i laughed ! I hope there are modern Amish people.

Quoting Queso (Reply 21):
I don't. They are people just like me who live their own life the way they think is right.

I don't have prejudice against certain kind of people, i just wanted to hear your opinions on their way of life. I don't know a lot about Amish.

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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:38 pm

They make good furniture, cheap! I also buy some frsh veggies from their farmers market every couple of weeks.

To each is own....
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:52 pm



Quoting AAce24 (Reply 28):
All I can think of is Tim Allen in For Richer or Poorer when I hear Amish.

I think of Wood Harrelson and Randy Quaid in KingPin....
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:53 pm

I think they are good people that keep to themselves and don't bother others.
I respect the fact that the Amish don't proselytize, knock on your door, ambush you in front of grocery stores, college campus or strap bombs to themselves in the name of their religion.

For the most part, they are good people and I wish other religious groups keep to themselves like the Amish. My contact with the Amish is very limited and mostly school field trips to Amish Acres in Nappanee, Indiana.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:58 pm



Quoting Queso (Reply 21):
I don't. They are people just like me who live their own life the way they think is right.

Exactly they dont do anyone any harm, I saw a program on TV about them . It was after the tragedy. Whilst their lifestyle is not for me they dont force their life onto others unlike some religions/communities so I respect them for it .
 
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:28 pm

Like any relegion, you have your devout, and your not so devout. I've been to an Amish farm, where they shipped fertilizer and seeds. It was there, that I saw the first LCD monitor I've ever seen in actual use, and it was a big one. Now they are commonplace. They had farm equipment, etc., and still had the hats and beards, etc.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:41 pm

The supposed indoctrination or lack of choice that some have purported on this thread concerning the Amish is for the most part very introspective/ethnocentric. While not trying to be a relativist, we are all subject to the choices of the society/culture that we are born into and therefore the beliefs of our parents and those around us. To act as though this applies to every one but ourselves is only normal. Coming from a Pennsylvania Dutch heritage I can tell you that the Amish are good people and live clean, violence-free lives. So what if they don't use electricity or cars? The Amish are fair farmers and business-owners and treat not only their own but others with respect and dignity. They don't recruit or try to force their beliefs upon the "English" who often times are rude, inconsiderate, and intolerant tourists. Quite frankly I think that we need to look at our own modern society and figure out why it is we that are so messed up some times. Their way of life just did not spring up as some weird cult phenomenon, it has been around for hundreds of years. They leave others alone and ask for nothing but to be left to their own ways. Seems pretty simple to me.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:47 pm

Love their cooking... Amish food is some of the best food around... We go up to Lancaster county about 3-4 times a year just for the food... oh, and HersheyPark.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:26 pm

Who the Hell are the Amish?

Signed the rest of the world


Seriously, I have never come across one, theyre just like any "group" of people going about their lives, I could care less.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:40 pm



Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 37):
Seriously, I have never come across one, theyre just like any "group" of people going about their lives, I could care less.

Nice... Go tolerance...
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Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:45 pm



Quoting N74JW (Reply 38):
Nice... Go tolerance...

seriously it is, they have their unique way of life, and if they're happy so be it, I'm not "thinking" about the Amish. Whatever makes them happy, I'm not going to tell them hey "your way of life sucks" come to the modern world because frankly its not my problem.
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Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:53 pm



Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 39):
Whatever makes them happy, I'm not going to tell them hey "your way of life sucks" come to the modern world because frankly its not my problem.

Substitute Amish for rural Indians.  Wink

I like a the Amish. Just making a point.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:04 am



Quoting Banco (Reply 13):
Quoting Cgnnrw (Reply 12):
Then what about Jewish, Muslim, Catholic, Baptist etc children. Nobody asks them about their religion

Precisely. More indoctrination.

Or atheist, agnostic, or even Hare Krishna for that matter. As long as they aren't harmful like Heaven's Gate and the People's Temple, then it's up to the parents.

Quoting Queso (Reply 21):

I don't. They are people just like me who live their own life the way they think is right.

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Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:25 am



Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 39):
I'm not going to tell them hey "your way of life sucks" come to the modern world because frankly its not my problem.

I hear ya. I can reach the same conclusion when a horse & buggy blocks the road, which can happen if you were to drive up state.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:36 am

I always found the Amish peculiar, but the coverage of the Amish School Massacure left me with an extreme appreciation of their ability to forgive and to support each other as a community. I feel we all have a lot we can learn from them.

Quoting Queso (Reply 21):
I don't. They are people just like me who live their own life the way they think is right.

Welcome to my RU List. I wish everyone here could be so tolerant.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:04 pm



Quoting DeltaMD11 (Reply 35):
Quite frankly I think that we need to look at our own modern society and figure out why it is we that are so messed up some times.

I would concur. We are in no position to judge. If anything, I respect them even more now because the omnipresent pressure to conform, adapt or assimilate into a technological lifestyle is stronger today then ever before.

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 43):
I always found the Amish peculiar, but the coverage of the Amish School Massacure left me with an extreme appreciation of their ability to forgive and to support each other as a community. I feel we all have a lot we can learn from them.

I’m glad you brought this up. Not only do their religious beliefs support that kind of forgiveness, but there is a certain wonder to the fact that when you strip out all the technology, the busy lifestyle, and just the general crap that most of us have in terms of sensory overload and our pop culture run amok, it makes you realize that the things in life that matter the most—namely LOVE for your fellow man—is probably easier to appreciate and realize in their society.
 
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:34 pm



Quoting Bok269 (Reply 43):
I wish everyone here could be so tolerant.

I guess that most of us here are tolerant towords Amish. I just wanted to see what do Americans and the rest of the world thinks about them.

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 40):
Substitute Amish for rural Indians.

Now, that was expensive  Big grin

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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:41 pm

Amish? Are those like even lower-tech Mormons?
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Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:12 pm



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 45):
I guess that most of us here are tolerant towords Amish. I just wanted to see what do Americans and the rest of the world thinks about them

I completely understand that. I just wish that tolerance could be applied to every group that gets discussed in the Non-Av forum
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:55 pm



Quoting SBBRTech (Reply 46):
Amish? Are those like even lower-tech Mormons?

SBBR,

The Amish have nothing to do with Mormonism. They are a group of Anabaptists founded in the late 1600s and early 1700s and are of Swiss-German origin. The Amish lifestyle is derived from a very literal interpretation of the Bible. Mormonism on the other hand, arose around the 1830s in the US and its adherents believe that the Book of Mormon is a scriptural companion to the Bible (something that the Amish would outright not accept). Mormons also place an emphasis on Joseph Smith, who "restored" the church to its rightful self. I highly doubt that you would find many Amish who even know who Joseph Smith or Brigham Young were.
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RE: Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:24 pm



Quoting DeltaMD11 (Reply 48):
I highly doubt that you would find many Amish who even know who Joseph Smith or Brigham Young were.

Last I checked no one learns anything from TV or Radio, I heard the Amish read Newspapers  Big grin BTW, I doubt that many people have heard of the two founding fathers of the LDS.
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