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Help: Wireless Router Sometimes Doesn't Work

Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:40 am

Help!

This is my first week with this router. For the second time, at around 8:30am the router doesn't work in wireless mode but does through a wire. Today, however, a bit later (around 9), it did work. In the evenings it has always worked. This prompted me to think that there is another wireless network out there interefering. This means I must tweak its settings/frequency/speed.
Otherwise, the performance is blistering fast (youtube and what have you) and continuous and after a week of intensive testing I haven't been reminded one time that it's a wireless connection and not a wired modem.

I have this router:

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A1183969

Anyone had the same problem?

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RE: Help: Wireless Router Sometimes Doesn't Work

Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:29 am

You must have a sufficient signal strength. In the fringe areas of the network the connection will be unreliable just as you've experienced. On a scale of 1 to 5, a signal strength of 3 usually guarantees a solid connection.
 
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RE: Help: Wireless Router Sometimes Doesn't Work

Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:52 am



Quoting AverageUser (Reply 1):
You must have a sufficient signal strength. In the fringe areas of the network the connection will be unreliable just as you've experienced. On a scale of 1 to 5, a signal strength of 3 usually guarantees a solid connection.

Signal strenght is "excellent" and between 4 and 5 at every corner of the flat. This router actually has 7 (seven!) internal antennas!!.. that's why I bought it.

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RE: Help: Wireless Router Sometimes Doesn't Work

Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:48 pm

I liked netgear stuff for the longest time.

But seriously, their stuff is crap anymore. A linksys router can be had for not a whole lot of money.. And if it is less than a $100 I am all about saving myself the headache of troubleshooting something that may boil down to some form of voodoo and just getting a piece of hardware that isn't possessed by demons.

Your time has value. When I was on hour 15 of troubleshooting something a few years ago I realized that.
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RE: Help: Wireless Router Sometimes Doesn't Work

Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:17 pm

Are you using bit torrent? If so it may be that the logs files it generates and the ports it opens to achieve its extremely high speed are causing this to happen. I have experienced different degrees of this annoyance with both Linksys and Netgear routers. Although the firmware for most of the newer models seems to make this a non-issue.

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RE: Help: Wireless Router Sometimes Doesn't Work

Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:33 pm



Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 3):
I am all about saving myself the headache of troubleshooting something that may boil down to some form of voodoo



Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 3):
Your time has value.

I couldn't agree more. I'm the type that plugs everything, and once it works, never even thinks about changing anything. Investing time on trying to make your PC work better is precious seconds wasted for absolutely nothing. I never search for alternatives, faster software, any third party stuff (same for my pda), etc, not interested. I've invested enough time-wasting on computers in my 20's during the overclocking days.

I just upgraded to IE7 since XP asked me and said it was free. Other than a worse user interface since the button bar cannot be removed anymore (the one with buttons print messenger etc), a confusing layout, a thicker upper area causing a smaller internet window, and the tab function which I was very quick to disable, the only thing the new software brought was slowness.

I still got until Monday to return it, but I really hope it's nothing, because I like this router alot! Sleeky, fast, and with a strong coverage. I really hope it's just some bloke across the street who is using exactly the same wavelength or whatever as me, and as soon as I change one setting it will go away. This will also mean that the router has nothing to do with the problem..

Quoting YOWza (Reply 4):
Are you using bit torrent?

For the reasons stated in the paragraphes above, no  Smile


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RE: Help: Wireless Router Sometimes Doesn't Work

Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:51 pm

Try changing the channels the wireless connection runs on.
 
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RE: Help: Wireless Router Sometimes Doesn't Work

Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:31 pm

Here's a question:

Do you have a cordless phone in the house?

I had this exact same problem and couldn't figure out what the heck the problem was, until my wife answered the phone one day and I got kicked off the network. The phone operated at 2.4Ghz; the same as 802.11g. When the call was done, my wifi didn't automatically reconnect until about 20 minutes later. So I switched to higher frequency phones in the house.
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RE: Help: Wireless Router Sometimes Doesn't Work

Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:08 pm



Quoting Moo (Reply 6):
Try changing the channels the wireless connection runs on.

This is exactly what I had in mind. Will try it next time.

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 7):
Do you have a cordless phone in the house?

I have a cordless Siemens phone sitting right next to the router. The phone is not working (never knew what the problem is), although powered. I'll unpower the thing as soon as this problem arises again. Interesting suggestion!


Thanks for all your help!
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RE: Help: Wireless Router Sometimes Doesn't Work

Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:11 pm



Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 3):
A linksys router can be had for not a whole lot of money.. And if it is less than a $100 I am all about saving myself the headache of troubleshooting something that may boil down to some form of voodoo and just getting a piece of hardware that isn't possessed by demons.

I have had the same experience with Netgear and Linksys respectively. I also have a similar issue with my setup. A neighbor has an 802.11 draft-N router, and every time she is online, it knocks us off. We really cannot move the router around the house because of the way my home network is set up. In the end, I broke down and ran cable to where my wife does her computing. That may not be a solution for everyone, but wireless will never be as reliable as a solid UTP connection. I could get a draft-N, or N router, but none of our laptops are N compatible, it would be a waste.

The science of RF signaling is just baffling to boot...
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RE: Help: Wireless Router Sometimes Doesn't Work

Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:37 pm



Quoting N74JW (Reply 9):
I have had the same experience with Netgear and Linksys respectively. I also have a similar issue with my setup. A neighbor has an 802.11 draft-N router, and every time she is online, it knocks us off. We really cannot move the router around the house because of the way my home network is set up. In the end, I broke down and ran cable to where my wife does her computing. That may not be a solution for everyone

My router is exactly that, a draft N router, MIMO 270Mbit/s (that and the fact that it has many internal antennas are the reasons I bought it). N is a newer standard than G. Therefore I still stand by it. The problem happened two times this week early in the morning, because I suspect as you said I think it is another network conflicting. I don't blame the fact that it's N though, I suspect it could also happen between G routers? Next time I'm changing the channel. Have you tried that? I'll also be dumping the cordless phone because the router also operates at 2.4Ghz.

I didn't consider compatiblity issues, luckily my laptop worked straight away.

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RE: Help: Wireless Router Sometimes Doesn't Work

Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:22 pm

I did change the channel from 6 to 11, that is where I get the best settings. I have a Linksys WRT54G, and I bought a 5.8GHz phone set...  Smile
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