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CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:43 pm

I've heard every conspiracy theory imaginable, like all of you. But this morning I was looking at CNN.Com and they continue to show this so called mystery plane of DC after 9/11. Now I keep watching this video and I am dumbfounded that no one realizes that the white plane was an Air Force E-4B. You can even make out the little bulge on the top of the plane. So is this mystery really still going? And if so, why doesn't the government just come out and say "look, here is the plane it was!"

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/12/01/yir.mystery.plane.cnn



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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:45 pm

I saw the same report . . . couldn't help but laugh at the Conspiracy Theorist  redflag  being tossed about.

Wait til the real nutjobs get ahold of it.

Not unusual for an E4 to be up in a circumstance like that . . .

This thread will be fun to watch . . .

Wait for the tin foil hat wearers to chime in.
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:01 pm

What the heck CNN? What is so strange about an E4B being deployed when we are under attack? As the thread starter correctly says - it is obvious from the video that that's what we are seeing. Sheesh!
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:03 pm

Its not that the plane was not identified, but WHY it was there at that moment back in 2001.

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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:08 pm



Quoting RuudOnline (Reply 3):
Its not that the plane was not identified, but WHY it was there at that moment back in 2001.



Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Not unusual for an E4 to be up in a circumstance like that . . .

Not only was it not unusual for an E4 to be up in a circumstance like that...it was it's PURPOSE for being built. I would have had more questions if I found out at a moment like 9/11 the E4 WASN'T in the air circling Washington.
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:09 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Not unusual for an E4 to be up in a circumstance like that . . .

Nonsense, that was proven to be Osama Bin Laden's personal 747. The extra hump was Al-Qaeda's attempt at camouflage. It was supposed to look like a camel parked on the desert.




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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:10 pm

It had been hours since the attacks began. Why wouldn't a military surveillance plane be up in the air? Likely providing visual confirmation to fighters of any plane getting near the capital/white house area before they blow such intruder out of the sky?
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:35 pm



Quoting AS739X (Thread starter):
And if so, why doesn't the government just come out and say "look, here is the plane it was!"

Why doesn't the government release all the surveillance tapes of AA77 from nearby the Pentagon? Why does the Pentagon still claim the E4 isn't a "military plane"? Quite easily answered, all of the banner ad revenue on conspiracy sites gets paid to Halliburton.  stirthepot 
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:00 pm

The E-4s are meant to be ready to go at a moments notice.
 
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:43 pm

I think that video has been dropped. Maybe they realized what was obvious?
 
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:47 pm

I think Blackbird needs to be arrested for hacking into CNN's website.

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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:49 pm

I think John King is a pretty good in-the-field guy, but for CNN to put him on this story, when the answer is OBVIOUS-taht it was up there after the attacks to look for more possible bogeys-is beyond me.

I can buy some things that some theorists put out there, but this one, and the one that UA 93 landed in CLE are two I will never buy. The first, because it is obvious, the second, because I was outside CLE when UA 93 allegedly landed there, and nothing landed there. Only thing there was DL1989, sitting in the middle of a taxi-way, surrounded by emergency vehicles.
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:00 pm



Quoting D L X (Reply 9):
I think that video has been dropped. Maybe they realized what was obvious?

Still there. Search for 9/11.

Although I do agree that governments do alot that will stay unknown to alot of people, I never understood most of the "common" conspiracies theories of late.

This video for example, is an amazing non-issue to me. That professional people have dedicated time to make it, and that resources were consumed to present a product such as this one at somebody's expense at the end of the day, is beyond me.

And anyone spending a large amount of time on CNN (like me when nothing else is available) will notice that one needs to always turn their intelligence level down many notches to be able to watch it continuously. Although I do rely on and appreciate their speed in showing images whenever a certain event breaks out (keeping it at mute won't make you loose much though).

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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:19 pm



Quoting SuseJ772 (Reply 4):
Not only was it not unusual for an E4 to be up in a circumstance like that...it was it's PURPOSE for being built. I would have had more questions if I found out at a moment like 9/11 the E4 WASN'T in the air circling Washington.

Couldn't agree more. Personally I dont think George et al would have the cognative cpacity to pull off such a complex plan.

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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:00 am



Quoting RuudOnline (Reply 3):

Last I heard, the Pentagon is not obligated to share knowledge with "Joe Public". Stick with the most logical explanation people, many more times than not, it's the right one.

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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:03 am



Quoting Flipdewaf (Reply 13):
Couldn't agree more. Personally I dont think George et al would have the cognative cpacity to pull off such a complex plan.

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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:00 pm

FYI, there's an active thread in Military Aviation & Space about the same CNN story that was started several months ago:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/military/read.main/72653/

CNN.com is rerunning the piece for some reason.
 
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:10 pm



Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 14):
Stick with the most logical explanation people, many more times than not, it's the right one.

Some people will never be convinced. It simply doesn't make for productive use of oxygen to try and reason with them. See also: JFK, Marilyn Monroe, Hoffa, Elvis, Princess Diana.

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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:22 pm

I made my first trip to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base a few weeks ago to tour the museum. When we were leaving we took a ride around the base to see if we could catch any cool aircraft out and about. I can neither confirm or deny the fact I may have seen this said aircraft, if it did indeed exist.  Smile

Very cool!

Anyway, typical 9/11 conspiracy hogwash.
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:25 am



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 5):
Nonsense, that was proven to be Osama Bin Laden's personal 747. The extra hump was Al-Qaeda's attempt at camouflage. It was supposed to look like a camel parked on the desert.

I thought that it was to help make it resemble his favorite camel.
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:46 am

Pretty dang obvious what the plane was. And I can't believe that anyone would believe in this conspiracy crap. For the government to pull such a stunt, literally thousands of people sworn to secrecy would have to keep their mouths shut about the whole fiasco...look at history--the government can't even keep a secret between 2 or 3 people most of the time.

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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:00 am



Quoting Skywatch (Reply 20):
look at history--the government can't even keep a secret between 2 or 3 people most of the time.

That's exactly what they want you to believe and that's what they've spoonfed you for your whole life with this "history" nonsense so they can continue their nefarious activities...  Wink
 
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:05 am



Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 21):
That's exactly what they want you to believe and that's what they've spoonfed you for your whole life with this "history" nonsense so they can continue their nefarious activities...

Haha....cue the picture of the tin foil hat dude.  Wink I still find "chemtrails" to be much more believable, if that says anything about my take on the 9/11 conspiracy theories.. Big grin
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:54 pm

9/11 "Doomsday Plane" On CNN (by Posti Sep 13 2007 in Military Aviation & Space Flight)?threadid=72653
 
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:12 pm



Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Wait for the tin foil hat wearers to chime in.

Side note...what is the origin of the "tin foil hat"?
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:44 pm



Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 23):
Now I am scared!! But if you read the chem-trails sites correctly you will be relieved to know that the "Sylphs" are eating up all the chem-trails.

Phew!  relieved  I guess I can go return my gas mask I bought the other day!  Wink

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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:20 pm



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 25):
Side note...what is the origin of the "tin foil hat"?

I think it has something to do with blocking radio waves or radiation supposedly sent out by satelites so the government can controll our minds or something. Cause we know the current administration..... (ZAP)....

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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:26 pm



Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 16):
CNN.com is rerunning the piece for some reason.

Maybe nothing better to report about???
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:40 pm



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 25):
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Wait for the tin foil hat wearers to chime in.

Side note...what is the origin of the "tin foil hat"?

I dunno the origin - ask Blackbird . . . she has several.
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:32 pm

For those of you "in the know" about these things, I have a couple of questions.

Why were aircraft scrambled from Langley and not Andrews which is much closer to the Pentagon?

Why was the excercise changed from October to September for 1 year only?
 
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:37 pm



Quoting BigOrange (Reply 30):
I have a couple of questions.

I have a question as well. Jason Bermas is one of the clowns responsible for Loose Change.

My question is, would it be possible to drive a bus through the gap in his teeth? This is the most pressing question I have about 9/11 conspiracy theories.

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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:42 pm



Quoting BristolFlyer (Reply 31):

Ok, not sure why the pic isn't showing. Can't seem to edit the original post either. Here's a link for those that care...

http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/img/JasonBermas.JPG
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:53 pm

It's not a near miss it's a near hit!!
 
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RE: CNN Report: Mystery Plane Of 9/11

Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:59 pm

Oh god, what an elementary error!
Who is to blame, ultimately, for shit like this (with the interest of a major network?)
I think it's the several decades long heightened obsession with chasing ratings, making news 'not boring', to some imagined demographic group.

If there was one time, outside of the Cold War, when the E-4B would be scrambled, it was on that day, at least while the attacks might possibly still be in progress, with more to maybe come.

As for wider conspiracy stuff, my rule is - 'They are ALL BS!'
All of them, 9/11, JFK - yes even that one, Diana, to politically unacceptable ones (in the West) like the Elders Of Zion, 'Jews caused Germany to lose WW1'.

The only real plots in governments, democratic ones at least, are covering up usually rather mundane cock ups, mistakes.
As an example, several resignations of most UK government ministers in recent years, has usually not been for what they supposedly did wrong, but in their attempts to make out they had no idea anything was done wrong.
And that's what they usually resigned for, some were subsequently found not to have done anything really sack-able in the first place, but it was the way they reacted to events that did for them.

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