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Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:04 am

That says it all.... Congratulations to him and GO GATORS !!!!
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:18 am

I think any of about 6 guys could have won it. I personally would have picked Dareen McFadden, as I think he's the best player in college football. I'm not thrilled about giving it to an underclassman.

But Tebow can flat-out play, congratulations to him, as he had a fantastic season.
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:22 am

I liked McFadden a little bit more, oh well...
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:33 am

I also think that Darren McFadden should have won. I might be a little biased because I go to the U of A. Oh well congrats to Tebow, there is no doubt he is very talented.
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:55 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 1):
I personally would have picked Dareen McFadden, as I think he's the best player in college football

He is also the one of the 6 who will have the best NFL career. That means a lot more than the Heisman

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 2):
Did anyone see get Brennan left hanging when he tried to shake Daniel's hand when ESPN were interviewing those two?

Yeah, that was pretty funny. Maybe the girl Brennan assaulted knows Daniel.

Quoting MaidensGator (Thread starter):
That says it all.... Congratulations to him and GO GATORS !!!!

Too bad he isn't going to be anything in the NFL
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:43 am

The only thing I disagree with this selection are two things:

1) It was awarded to a quarterback. (ughh! The Heisman should be awarded to a running back or tailback, hence the pose of the trophy.)
2) And he is a sophomore! (wtf?!)

Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):
Too bad he isn't going to be anything in the NFL

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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:46 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):
Too bad he isn't going to be anything in the NFL

So now you're Alibaba Kiper. Jr. and should be considered an expert on NFL abilities? I thought your talents were in the field of hooking up with sleezy WN stewardesses? Which is it? The A.net world wants to know.

Quoting NW747400 (Reply 3):
I also think that Darren McFadden should have won

I think what did McFadden in was that he had a couple of so-so games against lesser opponents. Perhaps I'm a bit biased myself being a Gator alum but Tebow never really had a down game to the extent that McFadden did.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 5):
And he is a sophomore! (wtf?!)

So what? He was the most dominating player of the year.
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:01 pm



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 5):
And he is a sophomore! (wtf?!)

This isn't a lifetime and/or career achievement award...
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:46 pm



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 6):
Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):
Too bad he isn't going to be anything in the NFL

So now you're Alibaba Kiper. Jr. and should be considered an expert on NFL abilities? I thought your talents were in the field of hooking up with sleezy WN stewardesses? Which is it? The A.net world wants to know.

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Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 5):
2) And he is a sophomore! (wtf?!)

Who cares. As long as he is the best player. Should a rookie in a Pro league not win an MVP if he is the best?

As for Mcfadden he is a great back but he had some not so good games this year. Tebow played great even in the games they lost. I think that was what clinched it.
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:11 pm



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 6):
So what? He was the most dominating player of the year.



Quoting Homer71 (Reply 7):
This isn't a lifetime and/or career achievement award...



Quoting Wingnut767 (Reply 8):
Who cares. As long as he is the best player.

This is only the beginning. We'll have to see what the next 2 years look for him. It's a lot of pressure on him now, either make it or break it. Seeing he is a sophomore.... Hmmm  scratchchin  Says a lot.

Good luck to him. I doubt he will make a caliber QB in the NFL, let alone a 1st or 2nd round draft pick.

Tebow winning the Heisman...dude got very, very lucky!
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:38 pm

Can't say dude didn't deserve it. And no doubt some people didn't vote for him just because he was a soph, so he probably should have had more first place votes.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):
Too bad he isn't going to be anything in the NFL

As a quarterback, maybe not. But he's a hell of an athlete and it wouldn't be surprising if he made a transition to another position (TE maybe) and did have success. He doesn't seem to have the ego of some past players who wouldn't make a change *cough* Eric Crouch...
 
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:44 am

Everyone that says Tebow won't make it in the NFL is flat out wrong. He can throw the ball, and is a power runner.

The power running part makes him a threat to bolt, like vick, when he can't throw.

His arm though is extremely powerful and accurate. 1-2 more years in college should seal him as a great QB. He also has quite a bit more height than past Gator QB's that went to the NFL(Wuerrffel, Grossman, Palmer, Leak and Berlin(He started at Florida before going to Miami)>
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:59 am



Quoting CasInterest (Reply 11):
The power running part makes him a threat to bolt, like vick, when he can't throw.

The only problem is.... Vick isn't around anymore. So you cant really compare Tebow with Vick.

I'd rather see Washington QB Jake Locker over Tebow anyday! Now THAT dude can play!
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:13 am

Congrats to Tebow...he deserved this. Helluva season and is young...he's only going to get better.
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:17 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):

Too bad he isn't going to be anything in the NFL

I don't understand how you can make this determination at this point in his college career. I think that there are very few college players that can be predicted as being good in the NFL. There have also been many pointed out as future greats who washed up quickly. There are some who were nothing but matured in the NFL as well. Its a toss up and usually the pundits make their predictions for a paycheck, not with any solid basis.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 5):

1) It was awarded to a quarterback. (ughh! The Heisman should be awarded to a running back or tailback, hence the pose of the trophy.)

I agree. I don't think that quarterbacks should win the Heisman. Although, didn't Tebow have a decent rushing season?
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:57 pm



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 12):
The only problem is.... Vick isn't around anymore. So you cant really compare Tebow with Vick.

Vick would still be playing if it wasn't for the dogfighting..

I can compare Tebow to Vick, since they are both QB's that led over 70% of their teams offenses. Tebow can throw, and will be selected for an NFL team. At this point in his career, he is already a much more develped passer than Wuerffel, Johnson, Palmer, Leak and maybe even Grossman.
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:29 pm

After 45 minutes of emphasis on "innovation," I knew it was going to be Tebow. After all, the Gators coaches invented new plays for him, because of his capabilities.
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:48 pm



Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 14):
Although, didn't Tebow have a decent rushing season?

I don't know, and I don't care. He is a QB.

Quoting CasInterest (Reply 15):
I can compare Tebow to Vick, since they are both QB's that led over 70% of their teams offenses.

No, you can't. Vick did not play this year. Two different people from two different times.
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:52 pm



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 17):
No, you can't. Vick did not play this year. Two different people from two different times

Then you can't say Jake Locker can play.
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:03 pm



Quoting CasInterest (Reply 18):
Then you can't say Jake Locker can play.

Obviously, you have not seen Locker play. He isn't Heisman caliber but he AND OLD: Guangzhou - Baiyun (CAN / ZGGG) (closed), China">CAN play. He is a combo of a QB/RB/WR combined. The dude is fast and a pleasure to watch.

AND.....I never compared Locker to Tebow or Vick. I only stated that Jake Locker can play. The dude is a freshman. He surprised so many people around the University of Washington, let alone the NCAA.
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:22 pm



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 17):
Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 14):
Although, didn't Tebow have a decent rushing season?

I don't know, and I don't care. He is a QB.

Tebow had 22 rushing touchdowns, setting a new SEC record for a season.... Old record of 19 was shared by Shaun Alexander and Garrison Hearst, a couple of decent running backs....
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:31 pm



Quoting CasInterest (Reply 15):
I can compare Tebow to Vick, since they are both QB's that led over 70% of their teams offenses. Tebow can throw, and will be selected for an NFL team. At this point in his career, he is already a much more develped passer than Wuerffel, Johnson, Palmer, Leak and maybe even Grossman.

At this point, Tebow is a more mature throwing QB than Vick, with several years in the NFL under his belt.

Vick is an athlete who plays QB; I tend to think of Tebow as a QB who is a superb athlete. I hope that doesn't sound like semantics, but that you get the gist.
 
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:33 am



Quoting CasInterest (Reply 15):
I can compare Tebow to Vick, since they are both QB's that led over 70% of their teams offenses. Tebow can throw, and will be selected for an NFL team.

We''ll see what happens. I'm biased but Tebow is a great player and might do quite well at the next level. He already throws better than Vick ever did and has proven he can take a hit and play with pain versus Vick (who only likes to hurt dogs.)

Quoting CasInterest (Reply 15):
At this point in his career, he is already a much more develped passer than Wuerffel, Johnson, Palmer, Leak and maybe even Grossman.

Wuerffel always had a weird throwing motion and he was in an option offense in high school with not a lot of throwing (though apparently enough to attract the Ole Ball Coach.)

As for being more developed that Johnson, Palmer (POS Canuck going on a dating show...what a dumbass!), Leak, and Grossman...probably so but he has also been tutored quite extensively on that since last year. Don't forget that he threw for over 10,000 yards in high school so it's not like he wasn't passing the ball before he got to Gainesville.

Quoting Redngold (Reply 16):
After all, the Gators coaches invented new plays for him, because of his capabilities.

I don't know about that. I wouldn't consider Tebow Left, Tebow Right, and Tebow Middle exactly new plays. Effective yes...new no.  Wink

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 17):
I don't know, and I don't care. He is a QB.

Lighten up Francis.  Wink If your precious Jake Locker was up for the Heisman you would have no problem with him on the ballot and you would be all hot and bothered if he won.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 12):
I'd rather see Washington QB Jake Locker over Tebow anyday! Now THAT dude can play!

Better hope Ty Willingham gets him some talent otherwise he'll be transferring somewhere that does win games.
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:47 am

Tebow?
I think that this article is funny.
And brings up the question; If Jesus Christ is responsible for winning him the Heisman, will He be publicly be called out by Tebow when he Torettas out of the NFL in a few years?
I can see Tebow on the podium... "Yeah, I'd like to thank my (makes finger quotes in the air) "Savior" Jesus Christ for making me fall of my face in front of millions. The interceptions, the fumbles, being replaced by a 52 year old Vinny Testavrede? Yeah, thanks, Jesus. Real solid way to come through for me."


Sorry, but folks thanking their Savior is such a tired cliche and probably turns more people away from religion than fills pews. If I was on his offensive line, I'd probably be pissed off enough at his comment to let a few linebackers through, but I guess the devil would be responsible for that then, eh?
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:28 pm



Quoting 4holer (Reply 23):
I think that this article is funny.

Wow, a fake news satire site. Real mature.  sarcastic 

Quoting 4holer (Reply 23):
And brings up the question; If Jesus Christ is responsible for winning him the Heisman, will He be publicly be called out by Tebow when he Torettas out of the NFL in a few years?

Except that he never said Jesus was responsible for winning the Heisman. He thanked God and Jesus for his talents but never said that Jesus made the others lose so he could win.

Quoting 4holer (Reply 23):
If I was on his offensive line, I'd probably be pissed off enough at his comment to let a few linebackers through

And yet again you fail at painting him in a bad light. He thanked his offensive line and all his teammates in his speech as well as saying that he wouldn't have won the award without the hard work of his teammates.

Quoting 4holer (Reply 23):
Sorry, but folks thanking their Savior is such a tired cliche and probably turns more people away from religion than fills pews.

Perhaps it does but unless your fingers are broken you can change the channel, ignore the story, and just go on with your life. If you don't like what he has to say then don't listen.

He has a faith in God and believes that God has blessed him with talent...so what? How does it hurt your daily life? It doesn't so give up and move on.
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:39 pm



Quoting 4holer (Reply 23):
And brings up the question; If Jesus Christ is responsible for winning him the Heisman, will He be publicly be called out by Tebow when he Torettas out of the NFL in a few years?
I can see Tebow on the podium... "Yeah, I'd like to thank my (makes finger quotes in the air) "Savior" Jesus Christ for making me fall of my face in front of millions. The interceptions, the fumbles, being replaced by a 52 year old Vinny Testavrede? Yeah, thanks, Jesus. Real solid way to come through for me."


Sorry, but folks thanking their Savior is such a tired cliche and probably turns more people away from religion than fills pews. If I was on his offensive line, I'd probably be pissed off enough at his comment to let a few linebackers through, but I guess the devil would be responsible for that then, eh?

Why are some people so threatened by anyone thanking their God for the talents they believe he has given to them? I completely respect anyone's right to believe in a God OR to not believe but it seems like many on this forum have a chip on their shoulder when it comes to anything having to do with religion.

As for Timmy winning the Heisman? Well what did you expect from a University that has one 2 basketball and 1 football national championship in the course of 12 months? Now that we've conquered the team trophies were going to go after the individual ones as well.

Deal with it.

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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:40 pm



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 22):
Lighten up Francis.

My name is not Francis.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 22):
If your precious Jake Locker was up for the Heisman you would have no problem with him on the ballot and you would be all hot and bothered if he won.

I never said he was 'my precious' Jake Locker. Locker is a freshman, there would be no way that he would ever get on the Heisman ballot. All I said was that Locker is a pleasure to watch. I never linked Locker to the Heisman at any point on this thread. Please, dont put words in my mouth, Gator.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 22):
Better hope Ty Willingham gets him some talent otherwise he'll be transferring somewhere that does win games.

Who said Locker would be transferring somewhere else? Do you know something I don't know? Source??
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:36 pm



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 26):
My name is not Francis.

Please go find a funny bone and get it implanted in you. It was a joke that obviously went well over your head.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 26):
I never said he was 'my precious' Jake Locker.

Never said you did but you commented on him and how he was fun to watch but yet you say QBs shouldn't be part of the Heisman which prompted me too challenge you on how your opinion would change if Locker was up for the award.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 26):
I never linked Locker to the Heisman at any point on this thread. Please, dont put words in my mouth, Gator.

I never put words in your mouth at all. Hell, I don't want to be anywhere near your mouth given your missing sesne of humor. I never said you mentioned Heisman and Locker in the same breath nor was that what I implied. I was just pointing out that your opinion of QBs shouldn't be considered for the Heisman would change if Locker were up for it. A leap of faith for sure but most likely pretty accurate.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 26):
Who said Locker would be transferring somewhere else? Do you know something I don't know? Source??

Would you please take a damn chill pill and lighten up before you blow a gasket and have a stroke?  Wink

I'm just saying that if he is as good and exciting as you claim him to be he won't be happy on a losing team and might transfer. I never said it would happen. I never said I had any source. It was an opinion and nothing more and thus doesn't require a source or press release form the UW SID.
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:07 pm



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 27):

Uhmm, sure...whatever, Mr. Know-it-all.  sarcastic  Movin on....
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:20 pm



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 28):
Movin on....

Yes please do. People with no sense of humor are of no use to me.
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:12 am

Just got back from Green Bay, Wisconsin (took the Raiders there for their blowout loss) and thought I'd chime in.
Congrats to Tim Tebow! He certainly earned the Heisman in my book, and is a class act as well. I don't care if he is a Sophomore, I can't think of any other player that had a better year than he did, and that includes my beloved Colt Brennan. The reason I feel that Colt was not deserving was that he missed 3 games. I might feel differently had he played in those 3 games and performed well, but he didn't and it's a mute point. Tebow was most deserving, and looking forward to seeing him in person next August when my Warriors open the season in Gainesville, and my friends and I will be there!
Quite something, Hawaii's next two games are vs. SEC opponents! Wow!!
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RE: Tim Tebow Wins The Heisman

Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:57 am



Quoting HALFA (Reply 30):
The reason I feel that Colt was not deserving was that he missed 3 games.

That and, even though I like Brennan and love June Jones, Hawaii didn't play the level of competition anywhere close to what Tebow did in the meatgrinding SEC. Fair observation to make.

Quoting HALFA (Reply 30):
Just got back from Green Bay, Wisconsin (took the Raiders there for their blowout loss) and thought I'd chime in.

Nice!! Sweet domination, wasn't it? Wish I could have made that one.

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