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Sad Junk You Have Driven Across A Border

Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:41 pm

Yesterday I was out and about and decided to drive across the river to get some beer in Windsor, Ontario. I picked up some Red Cap Ale. Anyway, while sitting at the border I realized that my sad 1984 Chevy truck (painted with a brush and house paint to cover the vast amount of rust) was the saddest vehicle at the border crossing. I usually drive my new car across the border, but I like driving my turd around and it was first in the driveway.

Has anyone else driven junk across an international border? I once bought a really sad (it was $400 CDN)1980 Cadillac Fleetwood in Toronto and drove that across the border with no tags or insurance. That was fun.
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Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:50 pm

The saddest thing that I take across the border is the Windsor Transit buses through the tunnel. And I do that about 4 or 5 times a month.
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Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:54 pm



Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 1):
The saddest thing that I take across the border is the Windsor Transit buses through the tunnel

I see that bus all the time and wondered how it works. Does the bus stop at the border and the passengers show their ID? Do they show their ID before they get on the bus? Or when they get off?

That bus isn't too sad. It looks way nicer than any of the Detroit city buses.
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Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:58 pm

I've only driven across one land border, between Italy and France - it was a complete non-event.

I've walked across the border between Zimbabwe and Zambia - does that count ?
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Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:03 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 2):

I see that bus all the time and wondered how it works. Does the bus stop at the border and the passengers show their ID? Do they show their ID before they get on the bus? Or when they get off?

Everyone gets off at US Customs and goes into a building on the right side of the tunnel exit. Everyone including the bus driver gets checked by the border guards and then everyone loads back onto the bus and it does a route through the heart of Detroit. Then the same thing happens when you reach the Canadian side of the border, everyone gets out, Canadian Customs checks everyone and then you get back on the bus.

I actually find taking the Tunnel Bus much more convenient and much cheaper than a cab. There's a couple of buses every hour during the peak times and it runs until after midnight. The cost is also only $2.75 CDN.

You can see the route the bus takes here.
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Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:07 pm



Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 3):
I've walked across the border between Zimbabwe and Zambia - does that count ?

I would have to say that counts. Walking would be the ultimate in basic transportation.

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 4):
The cost is also only $2.75 CDN.

That is a deal because the toll for the tunnel or bridge is higher.
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Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:10 pm

For a truck painted with a brush in Smurf Blue, it doesn't look half bad. Though me thinks if i saw it in person I might change my mind.


I remember one weekend night back in college walking across the border from Nogales, Sonora to Nogales, Arizona pretty damn drunk. I was probably in a pretty bad looking state. Though my neighbor did walk into the customs building still carrying a (open) bottle of Tecate. The US Border Patrol people weren't too pleased by that.
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Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:17 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 5):
That is a deal because the toll for the tunnel or bridge is higher.

It really is, even though the buses aren't great they do their job. I wish they had a bus that went over the bridge however because I literally live a 5 minute walk from the entrance, however, the tunnel bus brings you into the heart of the city I suppose. Plus I hate the lineups that often occur at the bridge. I've often wondered why the Detroit buses don't make a journey over here though, because the Windsor buses are always full with people commuting back and forth.
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Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:26 pm



Quoting DesertJets (Reply 6):
For a truck painted with a brush in Smurf Blue, it doesn't look half bad

It looks great from 10 feet away. I have painted several sad trucks with a brush. It covers the rust nicely and when more pops up you just brush right over it. I don't do a complete hack job. I do tape off the trim.

The smurf blue is very close to the original color, that way I didn't have to paint the door jams.

I also owned a 1966 Ford F-100 that I painted with a brush. People always thought it was in great shape. They were wrong, it was filled with Bondo and "Great Stuff" foam. I got $1000 for it when I sold it. I should never have sold that truck. It was the best turd I ever owned. http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb309/NWA747/1966.jpg
I learned about the fine art of brush painting junk cars/trucks when I bought a junk 1977 Ford F-150 painted that way and I was impressed with its good looks from 10 feet away. It works better than cheap spray paint because it covers more evenly and you get no over spray on the trim or tires.
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Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:30 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 5):
Walking would be the ultimate in basic transportation.

...and my bodywork could use a rub-down and respray  Smile
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Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:43 pm

Not in my own car, but many times in crappy school buses when going skiing in France or Andorra with the school.

The border I've crossed most times is Puigcerdà-Bourg Madame Spain-France border. Once we got our bus stuck in the snow in a railway crossing shortly after entering France and almost got ran over by the train. Fortunately our skilled driver managed to get the vehicle out of there in time... 

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Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:12 pm



Quoting AirCatalonia (Reply 10):
many times in crappy school buses when going skiing in France or Andorra with the school.

Do school buses there still have manual transmissions? When I was a kid every bus had a three or four speed with a "granny low". Every school bus I have seen in the last ten years is an automatic. School bus drivers aren't as tough as they used to be.
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Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:32 pm

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 11):
Do school buses there still have manual transmissions? When I was a kid every bus had a three or four speed with a "granny low". Every school bus I have seen in the last ten years is an automatic. School bus drivers aren't as tough as they used to be.

Well, I actually have no clue on wether those buses were manual or automatic. The thing is that they were just "normal" buses (actually most schools here have normal buses here -unlike those yellow buses in the US). The problem is, I think, that our school always hired the cheapest ones :P

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Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:35 pm



Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 9):
...and my bodywork could use a rub-down and respray

Oh shame, there was me thinking you were young and beautiful  Wink

The only one in a piece of junk which comes to mind was about 10 years back (so IIRC!), when we drove to Wales from England - in a rather ancient Austin Metro with about 90,000 miles on the clock. It made it the 500 miles there and back, but sadly 'died' a few months later on one of Plymouth's biggest roundabouts... in the middle of the rush hour!  Embarrassment


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Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:47 pm



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 13):
Oh shame, there was me thinking you were young and beautiful

I am - but I think my big end's gone  Smile
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Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:26 am



Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
Has anyone else driven junk across an international border?

How 'bout a donkey cart crossing the border from the Gambia into Senegal? I've got pics around here somewhere...
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Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:30 pm



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 15):
How 'bout a donkey cart crossing the border from the Gambia into Senegal? I've got pics around here somewhere...

That is the saddest of all. I would love to see those photos.
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Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:39 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 11):
Do school buses there still have manual transmissions? When I was a kid every bus had a three or four speed with a "granny low". Every school bus I have seen in the last ten years is an automatic. School bus drivers aren't as tough as they used to be.

I didn't ride the bus to school, but I remember the school bus they used to take us on the swim team to practice was a manual tranny. Then again, that was about a decade ago

Every long haul bus I have seen in Europe, even brand new ones, have been manual transmission. However, all the city ones I have seen are automatics.
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Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:01 pm

In 1996 we went from Bulgaria to Greece in a 1970's fiber glass east german Trabant (the "station wagon" version Big grin).
The rear window was a plastic sheet fixed with scotch tape and at "full speed" the smokes from the engine could block a nuke blast. The greek border police only let us pass 'cos one of the pax was a NATO employee and sweet talked them into it.
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Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:00 pm



Quoting SBBRTech (Reply 18):
The greek border police only let us pass 'cos one of the pax was a NATO employee and sweet talked them into it.

They didn't want the Trabant in their country?

I would love to have a Trabant. It would be a neat conversation piece.
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Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:24 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 19):
They didn't want the Trabant in their country?

I guess they thought we were illegals from the balkan's warzone...that's what 10 hours riding inside a Trabby can make you look like. Not that the 20-pack Amstel had anything to do with it....

They came up with: "this car isn't safe enough for our roads" ! We almost asked them whether they realized those were greek roads we were talking about  Big grin (just joking, sas parakalo)!
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RE: Sad Junk You Have Driven Across A Border

Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:41 pm



Quoting SBBRTech (Reply 18):
In 1996 we went from Bulgaria to Greece in a 1970's fiber glass east german Trabant (the "station wagon" version ).
The rear window was a plastic sheet fixed with scotch tape and at "full speed" the smokes from the engine could block a nuke blast.

You gotta love those two-stroke engines the Trabbi has.  Wink

I've driven through land borders many times, and hardly drove in some sad junk (except for the one time we drove in a Mitsubishi Colt through there, when my grandfather was still head of the Police, and maybe in that Peugeot 205 which had a rearview mirror that would constantly fall down). But as far as borders go, the saddest border of them all was the one between Costa Rica and Panama, just 30 km away from Golfito. Hell, Costa Rican customs control isn't even at the border, is about a kilometre or two away from the passport control booths at the border. The times we drove there were three times by coach (two roundtrips, and a oneway trip from which we returned by plane) and only once by car.
 
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:54 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 16):
That is the saddest of all. I would love to see those photos.

It's on kodakgallery.com; is there an easy way of linking to that one picture? I tried putting into the post but it won't show up.
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