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Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:51 am

It appears I am going Chrismas shopping this afternoon and I wondered how you people get your purchases home. Here in Tunisia it's plastic bags everywhere. Very bad for the environment, rhaaa ! I however reuse them as garbage bags. You ?

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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:57 am

Mainly plastic bags here, though I hear that one of the major supermarket chains has recently announced a shift to US style paper bags as they are apparently much better for the environment.
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:22 am

Here in France, it is mostly plastic bags.

However, in an "environmental" move (rather an economical one I'd say !), a lot of supermarket don't provide those anymore. So for me, it's massive re-use of plastic bags. We never throw them now !

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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:38 am

The markets don't even ask anymore. They just throw everything in a plastic sack
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:45 am

Plastic usually. Wal-Mart has a green/white looking trashcan or something by the entrance that says "please recycle plastic bags here" and I try to return all that I don't use. My local grocery chain has a plastic bag return now as well.
 
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:46 am

Plastic bags here. Some of the supermarkets offer a "bag for life" or something whereby you pay something like 10p for it and everytime it runs out you get a new one and they recycle it... Something like that...

One thing I noticed is that in the food section in Marks and Spencer in Dublin you have to pay for plastic bags (either that or they were ripping me off), whereby in M&S in England they're free... Stops people using so many bags I guess.
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:51 am

At first, it used to be paper, but now it's all plastic. I wonder though that, given how paper recycling has progressed, why there aren't more paper bags around.
 
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:29 am



Quoting LHRjc (Reply 5):
One thing I noticed is that in the food section in Marks and Spencer in Dublin you have to pay for plastic bags (either that or they were ripping me off), whereby in M&S in England they're free...

AFAIK there is a mandatory government levy on plastic bags in EIre.

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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:39 am

Mainly plastic, however their is an environmental tax that is charged (24c I think) and stores will ask you if you want a bag or not. A large number of people will re-use plastic bags or make use of their own bags made from natural fibres which they will take along when they go shopping.
 
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:49 am

I always carry a backpack or a bag with me where I put everything in it! but if it gets too much or too big: plastic bag as well...

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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:10 am

Over here the default is plastic but the supermarkets now have strong green bags that you pay about a dollar for and the idea is that you bring them back every time you go shopping and use them instead of plastic bags but I its rather hard to remember. They're very supposedly hold 10 times more than a normal one.
 
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:25 pm

Over here, the default is no bag at all. If you want one, you actually need to pay for it (about $0.10), and it's either paper or plastic - the customer chooses. This in supermarkets.

Other, non-supermarket-style stores usually give free bags, and they're either plastic or paper, it's about a 50% chance.
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:29 pm



Quoting QFA380 (Reply 10):
Over here the default is plastic but the supermarkets now have strong green bags that you pay about a dollar for and the idea is that you bring them back every time you go shopping and use them instead of plastic bags but I its rather hard to remember.

Same here, I believe the A&P sells them for about 3 bucks each though. And you're right, my grocery shopping is normally not a planned event, it normally occurs when I pass the supermarket and decide to swing by. So for me those bags are useless.

I always get the plastic ones, and like the thread starter, they go into the trash cans at home so I don't have to buy more bags, wasting more money.
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:45 pm

I find there is quite a bit of hypocrisy taking the plastic bags off the supermarkets for a so-called environmental cause.

I wonder if those who have decided to suppress these bags have definitely stopped driving their cars. They too create pollution and carbon emissions, much more so than the plastic bags in the supermarkets.

I have always recycled them for one thing or another. Plus... I do not own a car. I use public transport, including planes.

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
it's plastic bags everywhere. Very bad for the environment,

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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:49 pm

Default here is plastic, although you can ask for paper. I bought my own reusable bags from Whole Foods and I try to use them as much as I can.
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:49 pm

Here it is mostly plastic bags.

Seems that most have plastic bags, not good for the environment at all.
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:54 pm

I tend to use/ask for both. I will put the plastic over the paper. I can then reuse the plastic for "litter" removal (from a dog that is). And the paper I will use for newspaper recycling, as I put the recyclables into it, then I place it on the kerb for waste management to recycle it.
 
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or E

Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:27 pm

Down here is plastic and more plastic.
Some "enviromental" cloth bag trend appears to be catching up, but i bet it won't be that revolutionary.
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:17 pm



Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
I however reuse them as garbage bags. You ?

I do the same. The fit the wastebasket I have in the bathroom perfectly.

I haven't seen paper bags where I live for a long time. I'd go the reusable bag route but then I wouldn't have garbage bags for the bathroom.
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:34 pm

Until recently, it was plastic only in all Belgian shops. Nowadays, the main supermarket chains have phased out the disposable and free plastic bag and charge a small amount for more solid plastic or cloth reusable bags.

I never use either anyway - I put everything in my backpack.
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:44 am

I make a point of always saying that I don't need a bag when I'm getting a few things... c'mon a plastic bag for two small items? Ridiculous!

I've got a Trader Joe's reusable bag; I like how they let you draw chips for prizes whenever you've brought a reusable bag. Anything to get people to conserve, I guess.
 
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:09 am

Out here its Plastic bags mainly of a certain thickness.Very Durable & Reuasable too.
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:44 am

I get paper bags for groceries.

Quoting CaptainJon (Reply 16):
I will use for newspaper recycling, as I put the recyclables into it, then I place it on the kerb for waste management to recycle it.

This is what I use the paper bags for. Our town requires paper recycling be in paper bags only.
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RE: Friday's Stupid Thread - Paper Or Plastic Or Else?

Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:13 am

Some of the stores here are now selling reusable cloth bags. If I go down to Sprouts (a farmer's style market that sells mostly organic goods) I can buy a mesh reusable bag for 99 cents each. Three of them would hold my usual purchases. I don't usually go to Trader Joe's, but it doesn't surprise me that they're one of the chains leading this change.
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