latintraveller
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US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:11 am

Alright kids. Here's the deal.

I'm due to travel to Mexico on 1/6/2008 and come back on 1/11/2008.

Passport was expired. I was still under the impression that US citizens could re-enter the country with the passport application form.

I was wrong...

I called to set up an appointment at the LA Passport Agency. However the automated appointment scheduling system is only setting up appointments for people traveling before December 29. I tried and got smart and scheduled the appointment..only for the system to tell me that I need proof that I'm traveling before 12/29.


You guys think I'll be able to have my passport in my warm little hands by 1/5? I've read that some people get their passports same days. Other say it doesn't happen. How, if possible, can I get my passport the same day?


ANY help or experiences are greatly appreciated.


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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:18 pm

Check this thread - lot's of help.
Passport Help - Urgent (by CMB320 Nov 27 2007 in Non Aviation)?threadid=1766635&searchid=1768570&s=passport#ID1768570
 
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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:34 pm

It puzzles me as to why people wait until the very last minute to do this.....
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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:29 pm

Quoting LatinTraveller (Thread starter):
How, if possible, can I get my passport the same day?

There's no assurance that it will be issued the same day. Go to the State Department's Passport Agency website and it will tell you the items required to have the passport expedited. If you really need it that quickly, look up a courier service in your area that does expedited passport applications. It won't be cheap-$$$$ but it will get you what you need. You'll need to pay the passport application fee, expediting fee, execution fee, provide two properly sized and proportioned photographs, expired US passport (not expired longer than ten years) and a travel itinerary with your dates of travel.

Quoting LatinTraveller (Thread starter):
Passport was expired. I was still under the impression that US citizens could re-enter the country with the passport application form.

To cross the border, you have to have either a valid government issued ID (ie. Driver's License), certified record of birth issued by a government agency or a naturalization certificate. Right now they're changing the requirements for re-entry and soon you will have to have either a passport or identification card issued by the Department of State to cross.


AIR TRAVEL

Implemented on January 23, 2007, ALL PERSONS traveling by air between the United States and Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, and the Caribbean region are required to present a passport or other valid travel document to enter or re-enter the United States.

LAND AND SEA TRAVEL
The following summarizes information available on the Department of Homeland Security’s website.

* JANUARY 31, 2008
U.S. and Canadian citizens will need to present either a WHTI-compliant document, or a government-issued photo ID, such as a driver’s license, plus proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate. DHS also proposes to begin alternative procedures for U.S. and Canadian children at that time.

* SUMMER 2008
At a later date, to be determined, the departments will implement the full requirements of the land and sea phase of WHTI. The proposed rules require most U.S. citizens entering the United States at sea or land ports of entry to have either a U.S. passport; a U.S. passport card; a trusted traveler card such as NEXUS, FAST, or SENTRI; a valid Merchant Mariner Document (MMD) when traveling in conjunction with official maritime business; or a valid U.S. Military identification card when traveling on official orders.

The implementation date will be determined based on a number of factors, including the progress of actions undertaken by the Department of Homeland Security to implement the WHTI requirements and the availability of WHTI compliant documents on both sides of the border. DHS and DOS expect the date of full WHTI implementation to be in the summer of 2008. The precise implementation date will be formally announced with at least 60 days notice.

Note: The passport requirement does NOT apply to U.S. citizens traveling to or returning directly from a U.S. territory.

[Edited 2007-12-15 10:35:24]
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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:39 pm

I do not believe, as stated above, that you will need a passport yet to get back in the country from Mexico. However, if you do want one try this:

Buy a fully refundable ticket for a departure around Christmas time, go get your passport, then cancel your ticket and get the refund.

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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:16 am

Simple answer man. YES you can. Contrary to what you might have read or heard YES you can get a passport on the same day. Be sure to go the to the agency, forget about mail in service, go in personally! It happened to me once and I was able to get my passport the same day, but be ready to pay! If you need proof that you're traveling within a few days, just print out a copy of your ticket. But just in case take your ticket and all the documents required. If you need any more info, let me know.


  • Just call the nearest passport agency. Here's the link
  • Make an appointment for an expedited passport.
  • Go to the agency on the date of appointment and bring ALL the information and documents they ask for.
  • You'll pay around $130-150 and you'll get it in under 3 hours the same day.


Make an appointment first, It's very important! Good Luck.

[Edited 2007-12-15 18:27:25]
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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:30 am



Quoting 57AZ (Reply 3):
* JANUARY 31, 2008
U.S. and Canadian citizens will need to present either a WHTI-compliant document, or a government-issued photo ID, such as a driver’s license, plus proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate. DHS also proposes to begin alternative procedures for U.S. and Canadian children at that time.

So it is now my understanding that I will not need my passport when crossing over into Windsor from Detroit in January?

Sounds good!
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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:02 am



Quoting JetsGo (Reply 6):

So it is now my understanding that I will not need my passport when crossing over into Windsor from Detroit in January?

Not as long as you have the appropriate documentation. For the record, a birth certificate will be accepted as proof of citizenship as long as it is issued by an official government agency. All states (and some counties) have a Department of Vital Statistics (or equivalent) that issues Birth and Death Certificates. Occasionally we will see someone with a Report of Foreign Birth (from the Department of State) or someone with a birth certificate issued by another government agency with proper authority (such as the Department of Commerce). Bottom line is, a birth certificate that is hospital issued (not bearing the seal of a governmental agency) is not accepted as proof of citizenship. Also, you cannot use a Certified Birth Abstract if it was issued by either the State of California or the State of Texas-you must use the long form.
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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:46 am



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 2):
It puzzles me as to why people wait until the very last minute to do this.....

it puzzles me as to how there's always some sad guy who goes to the trouble of replying to a topic with the sole purpose of passively insulting the thread starter.

anyways, you can go ahead and do the refundable ticket deal, which isnt a bad idea. otherwise, you really can just wait a few days until the system includes your date of travel, and then call in and make the soonest available appointment. you should still be able to acquire the passport with time to spare.
 
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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:23 pm



Quoting DeltaOwnsAll (Reply 8):
it puzzles me as to how there's always some sad guy who goes to the trouble of replying to a topic with the sole purpose of passively insulting the thread starter.

I dont recall accusing him of doing anything, the last time I checked. I was stating in general. Alot of people wait until the last minute to do this and worry to gray hairs... This is why we call it 'planning ahead'. You snooze, you lose. Its a fact of life.  wave 
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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:47 pm

Anyways, thanks a lot for MOST of the helpful replies..



I'm guessing that the conclusion is that I WILL still be able to travel...just need to call on the 23rd, make an appointment, and get my passport before I leave to Mexico.


Thanks guys!
 
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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:24 pm



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 2):
It puzzles me as to why people wait until the very last minute to do this.....

Good question.

Quoting DeltaOwnsAll (Reply 8):
it puzzles me as to how there's always some sad guy who goes to the trouble of replying to a topic with the sole purpose of passively insulting the thread starter.

Well, it was a logical question. It's not like having a valid passport before one leaves the country is a new requirement. Just because a poster has a legitimate question doesn't erase his underlying foolishness in ensuring his passport is valid.
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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:59 am



Quoting Halls120 (Reply 11):

Well, it was a logical question. It's not like having a valid passport before one leaves the country is a new requirement. Just because a poster has a legitimate question doesn't erase his underlying foolishness in ensuring his passport is valid.

I don't believe I ever stated that I didn't know my passport had expired.I knew it had expired on July 7, 2007. Like my post said, I was still under the impression that I was still able to travel with proof that I had AT LEAST applied to get a passport.


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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:38 am



Quoting LatinTraveller (Thread starter):

I called to set up an appointment at the LA Passport Agency.

I believe the L.A. Passport office, which is located in the federal building in Westwood (you know, the one they need to knock down and replace with something that doesn't look like it was built by the Soviet Union in 1970), also accepts walk ins.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 2):
It puzzles me as to why people wait until the very last minute to do this.....

If you noticed, the OP was confused over whether his evidence of an application was enough.

Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 4):
I do not believe, as stated above, that you will need a passport yet to get back in the country from Mexico.

Yes, you do need one. Well, I suppose you don't actually have to have one if you can somehow prove to the agent that you are, indeed, a US citizen. However, I would stick with following the law.

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 6):
So it is now my understanding that I will not need my passport when crossing over into Windsor from Detroit in January?

Correct.

Quoting 57AZ (Reply 7):
All states (and some counties) have a Department of Vital Statistics (or equivalent) that issues Birth and Death Certificates.

In Los Angeles County, they are issued by the County Clerk.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 11):
It's not like having a valid passport before one leaves the country is a new requirement.

It is for Mexico and Canada
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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:52 pm



Quoting LatinTraveller (Reply 12):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 11):

Well, it was a logical question. It's not like having a valid passport before one leaves the country is a new requirement. Just because a poster has a legitimate question doesn't erase his underlying foolishness in ensuring his passport is valid.

I don't believe I ever stated that I didn't know my passport had expired.I knew it had expired on July 7, 2007. Like my post said, I was still under the impression that I was still able to travel with proof that I had AT LEAST applied to get a passport.

Understand. But why not just be prepared, and apply for a new passport BEFORE your current one expires?

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 11):
It's not like having a valid passport before one leaves the country is a new requirement.

It is for Mexico and Canada

A requirement that was well publicized in advance.

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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:55 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
If you noticed, the OP was confused over whether his evidence of an application was enough.

It requires a vaild passport. It's not rocket science.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 14):
But why not just be prepared, and apply for a new passport BEFORE your current one expires?

Agreed with Halls120. Its always nice to be prepared rather than having to 'pay' for it later...
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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:26 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
Quoting JetsGo (Reply 6):
So it is now my understanding that I will not need my passport when crossing over into Windsor from Detroit in January?

Correct.

So he can get into Canada with no passport.....

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 11):
It's not like having a valid passport before one leaves the country is a new requirement.

It is for Mexico and Canada

But can he come back????
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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:52 pm



Quoting Maidensgator (Reply 16):

So he can get into Canada with no passport.....



Quoting Maidensgator (Reply 16):

But can he come back????

Overland, he can during the time he is going.
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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:42 pm

Supposedly, LA can hand me a passport the same day. If not, the next day. Don't really mind paying. Just want my passport.


San Fransisco is backed up...


So I'm good...
 
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RE: US Passport Expediting Times. Help!

Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:55 pm



Quoting LatinTraveller (Reply 18):
So I'm good...

 thumbsup  You got lucky! In 10 years, be prepared again! LOL! Have a great trip. Do us a TR if you will??
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