Dougloid
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IE Bombs: Dougloid Backs Up

Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:27 pm

Folks, I've just finished a Windows stripout and reinstall and I've a couple of points that should be of interest to people who are using the Windows platform and IE.

Yes, I know, I know, Firefox is better, Mac is better, blah blah blah. The love-in's down the hall.

Now. For the rest of you.

The problems that led to this began with some quirkiness in IE 6 that led me to try using IE7.

The problem wasn't really managed so I reverted to IE6 and that's where the problems really got underway. What I would come up with was an error message that said that iertutil.dll could not be located and IE had to shut down, sorry about that.

I tried several online fixes, and they made things worse. I was able to do a system restore in Windows safe mode and get my desktop back and SAVE MY FILES, but I still had the ie 'missing file' problem even though the file was right where it was supposed to be.

The critical point here is that I learned that this happens an awful lot if you try IE7 and decide you don't like it and get rid of it....you'll keep getting that error message and when you get it IE closes down. So don't try IE7 unless you're going to keep it or strip out and reload Windows as I did. It can't be fixed or worked around.

And don't let Microsoft slip it to you as a "windows update". It's like a date rape drug-you'll wake up with a sore spot between your legs and you won't remember how you got it.

Well, brother Klaus made a believer in backup out of me the other day after I had done reading a very interesting article on hard drive failure rates, and I went and sprung for a 320 gb Western Digital USB hard drive. Street price is about a C-note at Office Despot. Even though Comp USA is closing its stores and selling out to the four walls they're still more money.

It came with a free trial application that automates the backup tasks and ended up catching a few folders I'd missed. It does a nice job of automating all the stuff including snagging a copy of the IE favorites file and the OE mail file-even though I'd done the mail I plumb forgot about the favorites.

So I'm back in business, the IE problem is gone, all my files were saved (about three years worth of work) and the backup application is running in the background.



It's cheap insurance, people.

[Edited 2007-12-18 10:56:37]
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RE: IE Bombs: Dougloid Backs Up

Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:35 pm



Quoting Dougloid (Thread starter):

And don't let Microsoft slip it to you as a "windows update". It's like a date rape drug-you'll wake up with a sore spot between your legs and you won't remember how you got it.

So politically incorrect, and yet I love it.

And I agree about the USB backup drive. I have a 250GB backup that I use to backup my files daily. I'd shoot myself in the foot if I lost all of my music and years worth of school work.
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RE: IE Bombs: Dougloid Backs Up

Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:29 pm



Quoting Dougloid (Thread starter):
Well, brother Klaus made a believer in backup out of me the other day after I had done reading a very interesting article on hard drive failure rates, and I went and sprung for a 320 gb Western Digital USB hard drive. Street price is about a C-note at Office Despot. Even though Comp USA is closing its stores and selling out to the four walls they're still more money.

Congratulations! Big grin

Just one little thing: If your backup mechanism is set to just overwrite the previous backup, you still run the risk of losing data if something goes wrong during the process.

If your backup mechanism supports it, you should choose the option "first save the previous backup, only after that overwrite it with the new version". It gives you an additional safety margin against technical mishaps during the backup process and accidental deletions you might have done yourself.

Additionally, a single backup drive can also fail; Although simultaneous failure of both the original and the backup is not very likely.

Using more than one backup drive alternatingly and occasionally burning separate backups to CD or DVD to be stored separately can also increase the safety margin.

Not everybody may need to go that far (it depends on the importance of your data), but it's generally good to remain aware that storage media can and ultimately will fail if they're used long enough. The best way to counter that is to make separate copies / backups.
 
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RE: IE Bombs: Dougloid Backs Up

Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:22 pm

What did you find objectionable about IE7? Everything I have read says the IE7 is a vast improvement in usability and especially, security. The computer guru I listen to says there is no longer any advantage to using Firefox, for instance.
 
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RE: IE Bombs: Dougloid Backs Up

Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:16 pm



Quoting Mham001 (Reply 3):
What did you find objectionable about IE7?

I teach online classes for a couple of colleges and the platform they utilize is not entirely 100 per cent IE7 and/or Vista compliant. That causes the occasional snag. I also do work for a law firm that is not IE7 compliant. IE7 runs slowly on my machine-which to be sure is three years old and slightly outdated by today's standards.

If it was just me I'd probably use Firefox and Linux or something like that but computing is not primarily a hobby for me-it's as much a meal maker as my kitchen stove and fun is secondary to working.

One nice feature about this level of backup that I've just installed is that I'm not nearly as apprehensive about stripping out XP if I feel there's a problem starting to develop, or as the folks who wrote "Building The Perfect PC" call it, "windows rot".

It's like having a good spare when you're riding on questionable tires, Klaus.


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RE: IE Bombs: Dougloid Backs Up

Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:20 pm



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 4):
It's like having a good spare when you're riding on questionable tires, Klaus.

Which is still dangerous enough as it is...!  mischievous 
 
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RE: IE Bombs: Dougloid Backs Up

Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:18 pm



Quoting Klaus (Reply 5):
Quoting Dougloid (Reply 4):
It's like having a good spare when you're riding on questionable tires, Klaus.

Which is still dangerous enough as it is...!

But a rather significant improvement, yes?
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RE: IE Bombs: Dougloid Backs Up

Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:24 pm



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 6):
But a rather significant improvement, yes?

Only if you manage to stop in one piece once a tire blows out...!  cool 

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