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We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:55 pm

Thats a great Idea. Id this pic and where it sits then post your own.


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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:25 am

What in the hell is that last thing?
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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:28 am



Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 1):
What in the hell is that last thing?

It's a snow plow. It's for plowing snow.

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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:28 am



Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 1):
What in the hell is that last thing?

Looks like a snow/debris clearing locomotive.


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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:31 am



Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 3):
Looks like a snow/debris clearing locomotive.

It's actually a car, not a locomotive. It is pushed by a locomotive. How inefficient would it be to have a locomotive just for this purpose.

One question remains...

Are those cabooses or cabeese?

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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:36 am



Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 4):
It's actually a car, not a locomotive. It is pushed by a locomotive. How inefficient would it be to have a locomotive just for this purpose.

True, though in the past Canada has used snow clearing locomotives, but then again in some parts of Canada the amount of snow accumulation can be measured in meters rather than centimeters so a specialized locomotive would be required.

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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:16 am

We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Based on the amount of in-depth discussion and rapid-fire responses thus far, I think it may still be a while yet before we have a good train thread.  Wink

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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:37 am



Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 7):
I think it may still be a while yet before we have a good train thread.

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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:54 am



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 6):
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tF2ZPRmocs4

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MlA2INOpT78&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QenN5D...lated

Not much of a train fan but that is very cool!
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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:56 am



Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 9):
Not much of a train fan but that is very cool!

I agree, that's freakin awesome!  bigthumbsup 
 
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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:48 pm

That's just a wedge snowplow-old as railroading itself. Now, a rotary plow is something to see:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=H66NXXvAFro&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=H66NXXvAFro&feature=related

This is a 1910 Alco-built Rotary that was converted to from steam to diesel. Easy way to tell a steam rotary from a diesel rotary is the presence of a tender to carry coal/fuel oil and water. In the old days, when the rotary or steam locomotives got low on water between towers or columns, they would simply dump snow into the tanks!
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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:30 am



Here's a Romanian train. Enjoy  Wink
 
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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:02 am

Nice to know that we're not alone where vestibule doors are concerned. Back when I worked for the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum in Chattanooga, the vestibule side doors would occasionally pop open while the train was in motion. Unlike the doors on the European carriage shown, our doors were the traditional dutch doors and opened inward. Thus, if you had the lower door closed and were leaning out, there was no chance that it would open.

If I correctly recall, many years ago the French President fell from the Orient Express (I think it might have been the Venice-Simplon OE). Evidently he mistook the carriage's side door for the end door at that late hour and tumbled out! Fortunately he was not seriously hurt-only bruised and embarrassed.
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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:21 am



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 6):

That's intense. I Love it!
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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:27 am

[quote=WestJetYQQ,reply=14]That's intense. I Love it!


Fun to see on video but I doubt you'd like it if you had to ride the thing. Hitting a snow drift like that is like running into a wall. The guys on that plow have to wear harnesses like racing car drivers.
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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:52 am



Quoting 57AZ (Reply 15):

Fun to see on video but I doubt you'd like it if you had to ride the thing. Hitting a snow drift like that is like running into a wall. The guys on that plow have to wear harnesses like racing car drivers.

That's really interesting. You'd think that since the train is so heavy and the snow so soft that the impact would be very cushioned, but I guess not so much. Still would be a very interesting job.
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RE: We Haven't Had A Good Train Thread In A While...

Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:07 am



Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 16):

That's really interesting. You'd think that since the train is so heavy and the snow so soft that the impact would be very cushioned, but I guess not so much. Still would be a very interesting job.

Snow isn't soft at all once it's gotten packed in. Some of the nastiest places to plow are cuts, as the snow really packs in there. Wedge plows were notorious for getting stuck or derailing when hitting packed snow too hard. In some areas, the railroads actually tunneled through the ice and snow when the drifts got too deep. Last year, there was a video on YouTube of Kyle Railways derailing their wedge plow-ran it across a crossing that had flangeways packed with ice and snow if I recall correctly. YouTube also has some neat clips of flangers and Jordan spreaders on the SP. Those plows are also heavily weighted to attempt to reduce the possibility of derailment. Rotary plows (on the other hand) cannot plow at high speed, but they don't have to either. Riding them is nice and smooth as the locomotives slowly push the rotary through the drifts. The spinning blades break up the snow and ice, flinging the discharge up to 300 feet.

For the record, riding in a caboose loses it's thrill too. At the end of the train, you really get tossed around when the slack runs in and out of the couplers. In fact, most railroads had rules requiring the train crew in the caboose to remain seated when transiting areas where it was known that the slack would run in or out. Slack could throw you off your feet and was responsible for many serious injuries.
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