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Whos Stupid Idea Was It To...

Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:15 pm

... make the clear clip on thing for red passes cheap plastic?

Yesterday was cold, about -25c, and when I was doing Air Canada I hit my pass on the scan thing so I could get in the door on the bridge, and the damn clip cracked and off goes the red pass. Luckily it fell inside so I didn't have to go chasing it, but still. To do the rest I had to carry it around like an idiot, and now I have to go all the way over to security and get another clip.
Apparently it's mandatory that it is fully visible on you, but once it gets cold they seem to want to crack and fall off with ease.

Also one of my coworkers last week his actual red pass itself split in two right down the middle. Damnit plastic.

/rant.

Anyone else had this problem?


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RE: Whos Stupid Idea Was It To...

Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:39 pm

I guess technically it would be Alexander Parkes', the inventor of the first plastic, fault.

That does seem like a stupid idea in the cold winter's you face in Whitehorse.



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Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:43 pm

For those not familiar with this topic, please post a picture of the object in question.

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Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:56 am



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 2):
For those not familiar with this topic, please post a picture of the object in question.

Don't have a photo, but it's really easy to picture. Red pass is just a plastic security pass with your picture, number, expiry date, and some fancy computerized crap stored in it that has your biometrics for scanning in to get access to the restricted area and to unlock the doors that require a security pass to get through. Basically it's like a piece of photo ID that can open doors leading to and within restricted areas at the airport.
It has to be visible at all times in restricted areas, so they give you a clear plastic pouch with a little clip on the top so you can clip it onto your shirt/jacket/whatever.


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RE: Whos Stupid Idea Was It To...

Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:12 am

Why not replace the plastic clip with a paper clip?

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Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:16 am



Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 4):
Why not replace the plastic clip with a paper clip?

Thought of that, but a) you can just waddle over to security and they'll hand you a new clip, and b) I'm not sure if a paper clip would hold up. When you have to fold 60 seatbelts, wipe 60 trays, check 60 seatpockets and swiffer the cabin of a 737 in 15 minutes, you do a heck of a lot of moving around in tight areas, and don't have time to deal with your pass falling off.


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Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:26 am



Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 3):
Don't have a photo, but it's really easy to picture. Red pass is just a plastic security pass with your picture, number, expiry date, and some fancy computerized crap stored in it that has your biometrics for scanning in to get access to the restricted area and to unlock the doors that require a security pass to get through. Basically it's like a piece of photo ID that can open doors leading to and within restricted areas at the airport.

Ohhhh you mean a SIDA. Get a sturdy lanyard. I use lanyards alot.
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Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:00 am

Good to see there's tonnes of security in Whitehorse- that hotbed of truant and wayward would-be nasties!  Wink
Actually, I was thinking about you and your -25c to -30c (0F or so) recently... reminded me of my joyous times beating my way through the winds on the ramp in winter in YOW in -25c evenings.....
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Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:03 am

What about wearing it around your arm on the outside. A lot of rampers wear them that way. It is still accessible for swiping and stays out of the way when cleaning a/c.
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Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 8):
What about wearing it around your arm on the outside. A lot of rampers wear them that way. It is still accessible for swiping and stays out of the way when cleaning a/c.

I do use the arm as well. My parka has a small pocket on the left arm, and I usually keep my red pass clipped onto that.
Tried the lanyard when I started , but a) it was in the way doing seats and b) on lavs it always wanted to dive right in...


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Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:08 pm



Quoting CanadianNorth (Thread starter):

A number of my co-workers have had that issue over the past month or so. I just got a new clip in September, and it's already useless.

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 2):
please post a picture of the object in question.

I doubt anybody will be doing that anytime soon.
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:38 am



Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 9):
red pass

Why not just call it a SIDA badge? That sort of confused me at first of what a 'red pass' was.....
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:49 am



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 11):
Why not just call it a SIDA badge? That sort of confused me at first of what a 'red pass' was.....

Well to be honest, at work I've never heard it called anything other than "red pass". Around here I've never heard "SIDA" used, not even once, meanwhile I've heard "red pass" probably a hundred times.



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Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:48 am

How about moving to a place with warmer weather?  Wink
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:10 pm

Use transparent Net twine as the Backup.

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Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:40 pm

The plastic sheath they give you for your RAIC is crap. Mine broke within three months of getting it. I never went back to get another one. My lead was kind enough to get me a leather holder for it, which is what I wear now. It's a flip open deal with two pockets on the inside - good enough to hold all my various passes. Oddly enough, security has never given me a hard time about not having the card openly displayed.

The arm band holder isn't too bad an idea either. Just have to be careful that it doesn't come off while you're moving about the cabin.
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RE: Whos Stupid Idea Was It To...

Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:50 pm



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 8):
What about wearing it around your arm on the outside. A lot of rampers wear them that way. It is still accessible for swiping and stays out of the way when cleaning a/c.

That's what I use. Since they're proximity cards, my badge never needs to come out, I just lean up against the reader. It is a life saver when you almost send your badge to GFK  Silly
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