glid4500
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:58 am

Hello gang.

I forgot about my A.net subscription and accidently let it expired. I havent logged on here in a long time.

For the past year, I've made some really good career choices, and I'm happy where I am at. A couple of you on here already know about my career move from CoachUSA in Anaheim, Ca.

I'm now a Commercial Driver. I'm a bus operator for the OCTA ( Orange County Transit Authority ), the 12th largest transit agency in the US. I really love my job and I've been here for almost a year now. Everyday is a new day on the road... I meet ppl of different walks of life... deal with traffic, passengers, fares, etc.

The folks here at OCTA are suprised that I do so well despite the fact that I wear a prosthetic leg. Most of the drivers never even considered I wore one, but always wondered why I had a little limp somedays. No modifications are needed & everyday i come to work all happy and ready for the day.

The new me.....
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/ea90744b/IMG_0012.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/ea90744/012307014-1.jpg

My favorite routes are .. well ... theres 3 of them, and I will show u them in pictures

My first favorite route is the 1. Route 1 travels from Cal State LB to the SD/OC Borderline in San Clemente via Pacific Coast Hwy. Its about 49 miles each way and gets very scenic / touristy during all seasons. Going through Laguna Beach is just simply beautiful. Below are a few pics from the 1 line.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/ea90744b/IMG_0387.jpg

Pacific Coast Hwy between Laguna Beach and Corona Del Mar

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/ea90744b/09078030.jpg


http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/ea90744b/09078026.jpg

Somewhere in Newport Beach
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/ea90744b/IMG_0398.jpg

Summertime in Laguna Beach
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/ea90744/012307009-7.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/ea90744/012307010-3.jpg



Taken at PCH-1st Huntington Pier
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/ea90744b/IMG_0307.jpg



My 2nd favorite route is the 76. I like the 76 because it goes inside SNA airport. This route doesnt get that busy. However, during the holiday season, getting in and out of the airport can take up to 10-15 mins.

1998 NewFlyer D40LF # 5417 at SNA. This was taken in September.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/ea90744b/0916008.jpg

...and this was my bus friday night at SNA
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/ea90744b/IMG_0418.jpg


This is a brand new 2007 NewFlyer C40LFR CNG bus. Theyre not bad to drive. I love the adjustable foot pedals. Drivers seat is really comfortable.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/ea90744b/1007003.jpg


Last but not least. I love driving the 60ft articulated buses. These are made by NewFlyer Bus Industries. We got 50 of them and they are used on the heaviest lines in the system ... like the 43 ( Harbor Blvd-Disneyland-Fullerton ), 57 ( State College/Bristol ), and the 53 ( Main Street ). They handle better than a 40ft bus.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/ea90744b/1007b005.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/ea90744b/0817017.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/ea90744/012307001-9.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/ea90744/012307008-5.jpg



http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/ea90744/012307022-1.jpg




......thats all the pictures I will share for now. weekly blogs are posted on my myspace.

Till next time
-glid4500

P.S. - My next air trip report will be posted sometime in late January. Will be taking a trip on DL from LAX-JFK, LGA-CVG-LAX in 2 wks
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:29 am

I want your job...I may just move out to Newport Beach for the view.. how is the infrastructure?

Quoting Glid4500 (Thread starter):
Taken at PCH-1st Huntington Pier

The D40LF..!

Quoting Glid4500 (Thread starter):
My first favorite route is the 1. Route 1 travels from Cal State LB to the SD/OC Borderline in San Clemente via Pacific Coast Hwy. Its about 49 miles each way and gets very scenic / touristy during all seasons. Going through Laguna Beach is just simply beautiful. Below are a few pics from the 1 line.

Where's the A/C pack?

Have you driven the NABIs at all? How do you like them?
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:49 am

OCTA is not bad at all. The company is pretty much organized. Mechanics and service attendants are really dedicated in getting these buses ready for service everyday. You barely see one breakdown on the side of the road. We were on strike for about 8 days last summer. We got what we want and things are better..cant complain.


The A/C packs are in the rear. The NewFlyer artics and the NABIs have roof mounted A/Cs
The NABIs are LNG fuel...with 2 large fuel tanks above the engine.



Driven the NABIs many times . I actually like driving them better than the NewFlyers. The drivers compartment is really spacious. The only thing i dont like about them is the pedals are too close together.
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:56 am

your new flyer busses are designed across the street from my workplace. New flyer has their R and D department there, and i see buses from all over north america being tested all the time. Their factory is also not too far away from me. I have engineer friends that work at both facilities, so some of the parts my friends designed may very well be part of your bus! The company i work for has also done some work in the past for new flyer.
 
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:17 am

Glid4500, is your screen name a reference to the MCI D4500? I noticed on the D60LF that there is no door between 1 & 3, did OCTA not need the extra?
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:15 pm



Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 3):
your new flyer busses are designed across the street from my workplace

Hey u get a front row seat and a sneak peak of all the buses b4 we get 'em. thats cool. i need your job lol

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 4):
I noticed on the D60LF that there is no door between 1 & 3, did OCTA not need the extra?

I believe they ordered them like that because they wanted a little more extra capacity. Add in a 3rd door and you'll losse about 4-6 seats.
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:50 pm

Hey Glid4500!

You did a great job of showing us your job in pics! I have thought about applying as a Metro driver part time in SEA, but never gave it much thought in regards to enjoyment. I think you may have hit me with a little interest in the job again. Glad to see you enjoy your work, and I have no doubt in my mind that you do a fine job. Keep up the good work!  Smile

Oh yeah! Thanks!
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:06 pm

Welcome back to Anet and great pic thread.

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Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:06 pm

Cool thread and pictures.

Quoting Glid4500 (Thread starter):

This is a brand new 2007 NewFlyer C40LFR CNG bus. Theyre not bad to drive. I love the adjustable foot pedals. Drivers seat is really comfortable.

We have those assigned to our busiest runs. I like the fact you get two buses in one meaning a handicapped and a pax bus. I guess this is a money saving design.

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Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:11 pm

Hey Hey!

Glad you're back aboard . . . . I particularly enjoy your trip reports . . . especially the Amtrak portions . . .

Welcome back!
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:10 pm

Can you list the engine and transmission manufacturers that OCTA's buses are equipped with? Thanks!
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Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:13 pm



Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 9):
Hey Hey!

Glad you're back aboard . . . . I particularly enjoy your trip reports . . . especially the Amtrak portions . . .

Pep said it best.


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Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:15 pm

Welcome back to A.net. The pics are really good. Thank you

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Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:18 am

does OCTA still use the RTSes, or have they retired those? I remember the 43 well, my friend rode that bus every day to work and back, i also remember the 1 well, there was a time when i didn't have a car (well, i had one, but that's another story) i used to ride the number 1 from Long Beach down to Santa Ana to see a friend of mine, all i can say is looooong ass trip on the bus.
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:24 am

Good to see a fellow coach operator here! I'd love to take a turn behind the wheel of one of those articulated coaches. Unfortunately, Sun Tran (Tucson's city coach operation) only gets enough funding to purchase a few new coaches here and there. Last purchase was a group of Gillig New Flyers about a year ago (25 and 2600 series). We run bio-diesel and CNG on the older Neoplans and RTS 2000 series coaches. Then we have a handful of ancient 1989 model RTS coaches that run on low sulfur diesel. They run fine-better than the 2000s so my friend at Sun Tran says, but they look worn. Nicer, newer buses and expanded service would attract more riders.

We run AC packs and the difference between the CNG coaches and diesel coaches is very noticeable in the extreme summer heat. CNG coaches take forever to accelerate from a stop but the diesel coaches take off. Does that 7400 have a lift or a ramp? Our 25 and 2600s have a fold out ramp at both doors. From seeing them in action, it appears that they may take less time to operate than the conventional lift. Only thing I don't particularly like about the 25 and 2600s is that to achieve the ultra low floor, you sacrifice the two bench seats that would normally be just to the rear of the cab. Probably makes it easier on the mechanics though, since they use the area behind the driver's seat for an electronics locker.
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:18 am



Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 13):
does OCTA still use the RTSes, or have they retired those? I remember the 43 well, my friend rode that bus every day to work and back, i also remember the 1 well, there was a time when i didn't have a car (well, i had one, but that's another story) i used to ride the number 1 from Long Beach down to Santa Ana to see a friend of mine, all i can say is looooong ass trip on the bus.

OCTA retired their RTSs in November. Its sad that they did... I really enjoy driving the RTS. OCTA had theirs since 1980. They were rehabbed 3 times... definitely good runners.

Just came off the 1 tonight. Nice long ride. Good views of the airliners landing from the south at SNA

3053, the bus below, was the last RTS I drove in passenger service.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/ea90744/012307003-4.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/ea90744/012307004-3.jpg

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Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:25 am

welcome Back to Anet.

I Admire a person that Enjoys his job & I see you do too.
Congrats.

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Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:29 am

Ive seen suntran's flet before. I like those NewFlyer CNG high floors you guys have.

I will have to agree with you on the CNG vs Diesel Acceleration. The CNG Flyers we have suck on acceleration. Gimme a diesel bus anyday. All of our NABIs run on LNG fuel, just like ValleyMetro in Phoenix and Santa Monica BigBlue Bus.

The Flyer artics all have wheelchair ramps. The 40fters have ramps via the rear door, another commonality with Valley Metro.

Quoting 57AZ (Reply 14):
Unfortunately, Sun Tran (Tucson's city coach operation) only gets enough funding to purchase a few new coaches here and there. Last purchase was a group of Gillig New Flyers about a year ago (25 and 2600 series). We run bio-diesel and CNG on the older Neoplans and RTS 2000 series coaches. Then we have a handful of ancient 1989 model RTS coaches that run on low sulfur diesel. They run fine-better than the 2000s so my friend at Sun Tran says, but they look worn. Nicer, newer buses and expanded service would attract more riders.

We run AC packs and the difference between the CNG coaches and diesel coaches is very noticeable in the extreme summer heat. CNG coaches take forever to accelerate from a stop but the diesel coaches take off. Does that 7400 have a lift or a ramp? Our 25 and 2600s have a fold out ramp at both doors. From seeing them in action, it appears that they may take less time to operate than the conventional lift. Only thing I don't particularly like about the 25 and 2600s is that to achieve the ultra low floor, you sacrifice the two bench seats that would normally be just to the rear of the cab. Probably makes it easier on the mechanics though, since they use the area behind the driver's seat for an electronics locker.

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Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:31 am

Thank you guys, its good to be back.

Quoting FXramper (Reply 7):
Welcome back to Anet and great pic thread.



Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 9):
Hey Hey!

Glad you're back aboard . . . . I particularly enjoy your trip reports . . . especially the Amtrak portions . . .

Welcome back!



Quoting Aaflt1871 (Reply 11):

Pep said it best.


Welcome Back my Friend



Quoting B747forever (Reply 12):
Welcome back to A.net. The pics are really good. Thank you

B747forever.



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 16):
welcome Back to Anet.

I Admire a person that Enjoys his job & I see you do too.
Congrats.

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Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:33 am

Please be sure and write a report for your next flight - the transcon.

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Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:57 am



Quoting Glid4500 (Reply 17):
Ive seen suntran's flet before. I like those NewFlyer CNG high floors you guys have.

They're pretty nice. Only thing I don't like about them is that there is no plastic guard panel up front on the passenger side. If your elbow is placed just right on the railing when the driver opens the front door, the #2 panel can hit you.

Sun Tran is a well run organization. I ride them regularly and find the staff to be pros. I also deal with their Risk Management Department on a professional level as the Training Manager-Historic Vehicles for Old Pueblo Trolley. We operate weekend streetcar service connecting the University of Arizona and the 4th Avenue merchant's district. All of our streetcar motormen are required by the City of Tucson to have Class B CDLs with Air Brake and Passenger endorsements. Volunteers who want to become a motorman but lack the license are given classroom training by OPT, then sent to Sun Tran for driver training and testing.

Right now, Tucson is expanding their public transportation services slowly but steadily. Voters here approved the construction and funding of a modern streetcar line. We don't expect to have anything up or operating until at least 2012, but plans are being submitted for federal funding soon. It's not known at this time who will operate the modern streetcar, though there's a chance it could be Old Pueblo Trolley and not Sun Tran. Oddly enough, our Motor Bus Division (which maintains historic Arizona transit coaches) is supposed to receive one of the 8900 series RTS coaches. The donation was approved by the City last year but delivery was deferred as we had no space for the coach at that time. I suspect that the coach is still in service, as Sun Tran is running all of the 8900s left on hand (that run) and the RTS that is earmarked for us is a running coach.
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:38 am



Quoting Glid4500 (Reply 5):
Hey u get a front row seat and a sneak peak of all the buses b4 we get 'em. thats cool. i need your job lol

yeah, it is kind of neat to see buses from all these other cities driving around. So far, i've seen edmonton, new jersey(can't remember the city) and a couple others. I have only worked in the area of the new flyer plant for a few months, so i think i will be seeing more. It's kind of weird because my city doesn't run any bendy buses, but i see them driving quite often. Seeing a "xxx transit system" driving around is kind of neat.

Do you have hybrid buses yet? My city is experimenting with one this winter to see if it can survive our winters(we will usually have 1 or 2 two-week long deep freezes where the temp is about -40F). They say if it does well, we will be getting them in the future.
 
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:45 am

As a passenger, i like the looks of the RTS, but they were kind of cramped inside. the New Flyers are much less aesthetic but much roomier inside. Honestly though, i wish they'd bring back the wide platform GMCs, those, in my mind, were the last of the "real" city busses.

My only other wish would have been for one of the local california bus companies to invest in a fleet of over the road coaches. RTD-Denver has a fleet of MC102s and third generation Neoplan OTR coaches, and it makes all the difference in the world for the long ride from Boulder to Denver and the airport, as well as the commuter runs from the suburbs south and west of the city to downtown Denver. I was always surprised california didn't do the same thing, but then the market there is much different, with every municipality having it's own transit company, they're really not needed, but for certain routes, like the 1, it would have been very nice, from a passenger's point of view.
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:15 am

Welcome back! Nice to have a fellow bus driver around. Glad you're enjoying your job.
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:36 pm



Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 22):
the New Flyers are much less aesthetic but much roomier inside.

What do you expect it to look like? Basically every purpose designed bus (starting with the 1920s Twin Coaches) looks like a bread box or toaster on wheels. What gets me is their drive system-really strange by any standard. Since a single motor at that time was insufficient to give the bus proper performance, they built the buses as twin engine units. Instead of powering both axles, they chose to mount one engine on each side of the coach and have one power the left wheels and the other power the right wheels. This was accomplished using worm gear drives. Ride an old Twin Coach or Yellow Coach and you'll think an RTS is the Queen Mary-they're small.
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:04 pm



Quoting Glid4500 (Thread starter):
For the past year, I've made some really good career choices, and I'm happy where I am at. A couple of you on here already know about my career move from CoachUSA in Anaheim, Ca.

Eddie, congratulations! Looks like your new job is amazing......thanks for sharing your pics!!!

Happy Holidays!!!

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Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 10):
Can you list the engine and transmission manufacturers that OCTA's buses are equipped with? Thanks!

Starting with the old and then the new

1989 Gillig Phantom 4096TBL10 (4200-4269)
These buses originally came with Cummins L10 engines and Voith D863 transmissions. These buses got repowered in 1995/1996. They currently have Detroit Diesel Series 50 engines and their original transmissions.

1990 NewFlyer D40HF ( 5001-5039, 5101-5114 )
These buses have Cummins M11-280 engines and ZF transmissions. The 5000s have a 4 speed ZF 4HP590 transmission while the 5100s have the 5 speed 5HP590

D40LFs
All the D40LFs originally had Detroit Diesel Series 50 engines. Our 1995 D40LFs ( 5201-5250 ) have a 5 speed Allison B400R5 transmission. The 1997/98 D40LFs ( 5301-5397, 5401-5418 ) have the 6 speed Allison B400R6 transmission. All the D40LFs were repowered between 2003-2005 and now have Cummmins ISC-280 engines.

NewFlyer D60LFs
The 1999 D60LFs ( 7201-7210) and the 2000 models ( 7301-7320 ) originally had a Detroit Diesel Series 50 engines and Allison B400R6 transmissions. They were repowered in 2005. They now have Cummins ISL engines. The 2001 D60LFs
were delivered with the Cummins Engines

LNG NABI low floors

Both the 2000 ( 2101-2161 ) and the 2001 ( 2201-2372 ) NABIs came with DD Series 50G engines & Allison B400R6 trannies. Recently, the TA signed a contract to repower all the NABIs with Cummins engines, not sure if its a C-Gas or an L-Gas. 2102 and 2312 have John Deere 6081H engines


1998 NewFlyer DE40LFs ( 5419-5420 )
These were the first low floor diesel electric hybrid buses built by NewFlyer. These have Cummins ISB engines in them. Hybrid buses dont have transmissions. These two buses have a GM HybridDrive system.

2005 NewFlyer GE40LF ( 5421-5422 )
These buses were a option order off the massive Long Beach Transit ( Long Beach, Ca ). These buses have the same specifications as Long Beach's order. Engine is a Ford V10 and a ISE-Siemens HybridDrive system
I havent driven one of these in passenger service yet. I did take one for a spin around the yard. These buses... you have to be gentle with the accelerator for the sake of the passengers.

2007-2009 NewFlyer C40LFR ( 5151-5180, 5501-5704, 5705-5767 )
These buses will replace most ( if not all ) of our 40ft Diesel fleet. These buses have Cummins C-Gas 280 engine and a 6 speed Allison B400R6 tranny. We are currently recieving these buses from NewFlyer. 5151-5180 will be in a suburban configuration to replace 5101-5114 with extras for expansion. The 5700s will be in a new Rapid Bus paint scheme.

hope this helps
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Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:32 am



Quoting Glid4500 (Reply 26):
Starting with the old and then the new

1989 Gillig Phantom 4096TBL10 (4200-4269)
These buses originally came with Cummins L10 engines and Voith D863 transmissions. These buses got repowered in 1995/1996. They currently have Detroit Diesel Series 50 engines and their original transmissions.

1990 NewFlyer D40HF ( 5001-5039, 5101-5114 )
These buses have Cummins M11-280 engines and ZF transmissions. The 5000s have a 4 speed ZF 4HP590 transmission while the 5100s have the 5 speed 5HP590

D40LFs
All the D40LFs originally had Detroit Diesel Series 50 engines. Our 1995 D40LFs ( 5201-5250 ) have a 5 speed Allison B400R5 transmission. The 1997/98 D40LFs ( 5301-5397, 5401-5418 ) have the 6 speed Allison B400R6 transmission. All the D40LFs were repowered between 2003-2005 and now have Cummmins ISC-280 engines.

NewFlyer D60LFs
The 1999 D60LFs ( 7201-7210) and the 2000 models ( 7301-7320 ) originally had a Detroit Diesel Series 50 engines and Allison B400R6 transmissions. They were repowered in 2005. They now have Cummins ISL engines. The 2001 D60LFs
were delivered with the Cummins Engines

LNG NABI low floors

Both the 2000 ( 2101-2161 ) and the 2001 ( 2201-2372 ) NABIs came with DD Series 50G engines & Allison B400R6 trannies. Recently, the TA signed a contract to repower all the NABIs with Cummins engines, not sure if its a C-Gas or an L-Gas. 2102 and 2312 have John Deere 6081H engines


1998 NewFlyer DE40LFs ( 5419-5420 )
These were the first low floor diesel electric hybrid buses built by NewFlyer. These have Cummins ISB engines in them. Hybrid buses dont have transmissions. These two buses have a GM HybridDrive system.

2005 NewFlyer GE40LF ( 5421-5422 )
These buses were a option order off the massive Long Beach Transit ( Long Beach, Ca ). These buses have the same specifications as Long Beach's order. Engine is a Ford V10 and a ISE-Siemens HybridDrive system
I havent driven one of these in passenger service yet. I did take one for a spin around the yard. These buses... you have to be gentle with the accelerator for the sake of the passengers.

2007-2009 NewFlyer C40LFR ( 5151-5180, 5501-5704, 5705-5767 )
These buses will replace most ( if not all ) of our 40ft Diesel fleet. These buses have Cummins C-Gas 280 engine and a 6 speed Allison B400R6 tranny. We are currently recieving these buses from NewFlyer. 5151-5180 will be in a suburban configuration to replace 5101-5114 with extras for expansion. The 5700s will be in a new Rapid Bus paint scheme.

hope this helps

So the DD50s are on their way out there at the OCTA as well... Shame.. my favorite engine.. Thanks for the list!
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Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:06 pm



Quoting FXramper (Reply 19):
Please be sure and write a report for your next flight - the transcon.

Most certainly will. my next flight is in about 2 weeks,
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Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:16 pm



Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 27):
So the DD50s are on their way out there at the OCTA as well... Shame.. my favorite engine.. Thanks for the list!

Yes seems like a lot of transit agencies are making the difficult decision to switch from Detroit Diesel to Cummins. Detroit Diesel discontinued the Series 50 engine in mid 2005. Shame too because the 50 was the best engines for transit buses. They offer the Mercedes Benz MBE900 engine. thats the only thing close enough to a DD50
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Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 1):
Have you driven the NABIs at all? How do you like them?

drove one the day after christmas. 2313 to be exact. felt great being behind the wheel of a NABI again. This one also has new LED interior lights

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Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:29 pm

I've seen that Wachovia liveried bus up in Brea two weeks ago...
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Quoting Glid4500 (Reply 30):
drove one the day after christmas. 2313 to be exact. felt great being behind the wheel of a NABI again. This one also has new LED interior lights

Do they have the Cummins in them? And what that hump at the back on the top? Ours don't have those.. I'm really thinking about driving out there. Something I really want to do.
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Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:16 pm

This is the BEST "I'm back on A.net" threads, ever! Welcome back, Glid! It's good to see you enjoying your job and I absolutely appreciate the pics! Thanks, man!  thumbsup 
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Quoting Aerobalance (Reply 31):
I've seen that Wachovia liveried bus up in Brea two weeks ago...

Yes there are a lot of buses out here with that wachovia wrap. In my division alone, theres prolly about 10 buses with that ad.

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 32):
Do they have the Cummins in them? And what that hump at the back on the top? Ours don't have those.. I'm really thinking about driving out there. Something I really want to do.

so far a few of the 2000 NABIs have the Cummins. All the others are DD50G. The humpback is actually where the 2 fuel tanks are. These buses run on LNG ( Liquid Natural Gas ). The A/C canopy is on the roof in the center. Not many agancies have LNG NABI low floors. as far as I know, ValleyMetro ( Phoenix, AZ ), and Santa Monica Big Blue Bus ( Santa Monica, Ca ) are the other companies with NABIs similar to ours.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 33):
This is the BEST "I'm back on A.net" threads, ever! Welcome back, Glid! It's good to see you enjoying your job and I absolutely appreciate the pics! Thanks, man!

Well allriiiiight mister, thank u
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Quoting Glid4500 (Reply 34):
Yes there are a lot of buses out here with that wachovia wrap. In my division alone, theres prolly about 10 buses with that ad.

My mom (who works for the transit agency out here) said something similar to me a few years ago when a couple, maybe 30, of our '92 D40HFs had this ugly yellow KB Homes wrap when I pointed out that I'd just seen that bus on a different route..

Quoting Glid4500 (Reply 34):
The humpback is actually where the 2 fuel tanks are.

So it's similar to the C40LFs that use CNG?

Quoting Glid4500 (Reply 34):
The A/C canopy is on the roof in the center.

All of our buses have those..they better have those as hot as it gets out here..
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Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 35):

So it's similar to the C40LFs that use CNG?

Yes CNG low floor buses must have the tanks on top because theres simply no room for the tanks in the back or in the rear. A typical C40LF has 6-7 small tanks on top.

LNG only need two large tanks. Santa Monica has 71 LNG NewFlyer low floor buses. NewFlyer didnt copy NABIs humpback...but instead put the LNG tanks on top, leaving the AC in the rear

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 35):
they better have those as hot as it gets out here..

no kiddin ... it must work too.
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Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:34 pm

So listen there fella....do you do the Number 1 to Cal State Long Beach like in the picture? Because I'm a graduate and on mornings like this when it's four degrees outside and there's snow all over the place and my truck chigs a little when starting I get to thinking "Hey....there are GOOD things to be said about smog."
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Quoting Dougloid (Reply 37):
....do you do the Number 1 to Cal State Long Beach like in the picture?

yes. sundays and mondays only
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:20 am

Welcome back to airliners.net. I really haven't posted much on this site recently (as I unfortunately haven't flown in a year) but I always enjoy your posts over at subchat's buschat board. You really do seem to love your job and are also a great photographer.
 
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Quoting Glid4500 (Reply 36):
A typical C40LF has 6-7 small tanks on top.

Yea, ours have only six..if I remember right.. Are OCTA drivers allowed to touch the switch in the back that changes from A/C to heat & vicey versey?
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:54 am

Your Pics are Great.
Looking Fwd to view Much more.
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Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 40):
drivers allowed to touch the switch in the back that changes from A/C to heat & vicey versey?

All our buses have a switch up in the drivers area. A/C, Heat, Fan High, Fan Low.

Quoting Vctony (Reply 39):
Welcome back to airliners.net. I really haven't posted much on this site recently (as I unfortunately haven't flown in a year) but I always enjoy your posts over at subchat's buschat board. You really do seem to love your job and are also a great photographer.

Thanks Vctony.... Yeah I post on the buschat section of SubChat. On that board right now, Its pretty boring now as most of the east coast buffs are talking about vintage fleet and vintage fleet that.

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 41):
Your Pics are Great.
Looking Fwd to view Much more.
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MEL

Thanks for the comment. yes this is only the beginning
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:14 am



Quoting Glid4500 (Reply 42):
All our buses have a switch up in the drivers area. A/C, Heat, Fan High, Fan Low.

I know about those  silly  but there is a switch that controls cold/hot.... I've just realized how hard it is to explain..
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:04 am

Welcome back to a-net! Nice pictures..thanks for sharing  Smile
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Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 43):
I know about those silly but there is a switch that controls cold/hot.... I've just realized how hard it is to explain..

ohh that switch... well all I can say is anythings possible with the right tools
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:56 pm

Welcome back! I've always enjoyed your trip reports and the photos you take around OC. I'm looking forward to your trip report!
 
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:35 pm



Quoting Glid4500 (Reply 42):
Thanks Vctony.... Yeah I post on the buschat section of SubChat. On that board right now, Its pretty boring now as most of the east coast buffs are talking about vintage fleet and vintage fleet that.

I agree. Although I do wish I could've made it to New York for a view of the vintage fleet.
 
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Quoting Vctony (Reply 47):
New York for a view of the vintage fleet.

Like 7340? I saw it in November!
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:51 pm

I'll be in New York sometime this summer as I am a large fan of the history and traditions of baseball and would like to see a game at both Yankee Stadium and Shea before they are demolished. Plus, I think I'd like to see how busy JFK has gotten and ride the subway/buses of New York. But, I don't believe I'll be able to see any of the vintage fleet.

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