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Question About Australia

Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:03 am

I have been accepted into this program People to People Student Ambassador Program to go to Australia representing the US. I was wondering how warm is it around mid July? On the trip we will be scuba diving and doing many outdoor activities and I would really like to know what it is like around that time. The trip costs 7,000 US so I really want to make sure my money is going to something good.
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RE: Question About Australia

Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:07 am



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Thread starter):
I was wondering how warm is it around mid July? On the trip we will be scuba diving and doing many outdoor activities and I would really like to know what it is like around that time. The trip costs 7,000 US so I really want to make sure my money is going to something good.

Depends which part of the country you're going to be in. The north, like Darwin, will be warm whereas the south like Melbourne or Adelaide will be cold. Mid July is winter here...we're in the southern hemisphere remember...our seasons are opposite.

How long are you going to be here? Will you be travelling all over the country?
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RE: Question About Australia

Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:39 am



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Thread starter):
The trip costs 7,000 US so I really want to make sure my money is going to something good.

Blimey, that's an expensive trip - how do they justify such a high cost and, is there no way in which you could gain sponsorship?


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RE: Question About Australia

Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:40 am



Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 1):
How long are you going to be here? Will you be travelling all over the country?

I will be arriving July 14 and staying to August 4. We will be starting out in Sydney at the Opera house and seeing some of the sights there and then working our way north along the coast. Here is our itinerary.http://studentambassadors.org/students-programs-details-ah.asp
Thank you for any information it will really be helpful.
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RE: Question About Australia

Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:01 am



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 3):
I will be arriving July 14 and staying to August 4. We will be starting out in Sydney at the Opera house and seeing some of the sights there and then working our way north along the coast.

If you're going to be heading north, then I wouldn't worry about the weather a lot. Looks like you'll be spending a lot of time in Sydney though...doing all the usual touristy stuff.
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RE: Question About Australia

Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:54 am

Wow...$7k US for what...3 weeks? In the middle of the Aussie winter? That is high, I'm sorry. But, I'd have to know what all that includes to truly judge.

Melbourne's climate is very much like that of the SF area, and Sydney is comparable to LA. Brisbane, the Gold Coast, etc. is more subtropical, so similar to Hawaii. I don't know for sure, but I would guess Perth and Western Aussie are similar to the US Southwest in terms of climate?

At any rate...Australia is an amazing country! I'm long overdue to go back (fingers crossed for December '08) and my sister is there right now.

Have a great time!
 
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RE: Question About Australia

Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:36 am



Quoting N174UA (Reply 5):
Wow...$7k US for what...3 weeks?

I would expect to pay that for a tour of certain 3rd world nations where there are security, health, border processing, corruption and language barrier issues.

But all that cash to trapse around a place like Australia where you will have none of the issues mentioned.

Cancel this trip, copy the schedule if you like, organise it yourself and you could do it for easily less than half
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RE: Question About Australia

Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:09 am

Hi Blue,

first, to answer your question before I hit the sack, we've been there for 2 Julys, once in 2000 and 2006. In Sydney, we wore jeans, and layered, meaning, a tshirt, a long sleeve t and a flanel, and maybe a light coator sweater to boot. By the time we got to...Brisbane, we were in t-shirts and by POrt Douglas and Cairns, in flip flops.

Second, this is advice you did not ask for but....really look twice at People to People. I was approached by them when I was 17 and I was about to go. But on the evening we were to go to the information meeting, we were in a car accident and then the trip just sort of got forgotten.

I do feel the organization is legitimate and not a scam as they've been around for a while. Further, one of my patients just got back and raved about it. And while in Australia last year, we have a 'people to people group of students on our plane.

But to this day, I often wonder how I got "chosen" or nominated to be on the trip. It just dropped in the mail one day. But I didn't get to do P2P, instead we visited Australia on our own. IT was the best.

Lastly, to echo other's statements here re:

Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Thread starter):
The trip costs 7,000 US so I really want to make sure my money is going to something good.
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I'm not here to tell you how to spend your money. But I will say that we saw 5 Australian cities, with 10 flights within Australia! included and lodging for two people for roughly $5000 in 2000.

2006 was...4 cities, 4 flights for about the same $5K, as the exchange rate and climate changed. But on this trip, we also did scale up our accommodations as we could splurge a bit more.

I don't know what $7000 is going to cover for 3 weeks.
At the very least, I would hope it pays for you to sleep in good hotels,
eat in good restaurants and got a coach ride wherever you went,
plus I would hope it included ALL the costs of any attractions you'll see. Also, chances are its paying for the guides/babysitters who will be with you on the trip.

Of that $7000, all I know for certain that about $1500 plus US tax(maybe 1700) is your Aussie Airpass to get you there and back. and all your transfers are included. The rest is most likely profit. But I could be wrong.


Looking back, at your age I would have loved to have gone. But I also made my mind up I'd go one day soon as I completed my studies. Having been there twice, I love that I waited and did it my way. IIRC, I think I wrote up a trip report about it, you can search that forum if you like. I've never done a 'canned' trip and Australia in a can is like Foster's. And you can do much better than Fosters!

But if you'r parents have the cash, can't make the trip with you and see a value there, go for it.
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RE: Question About Australia

Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:23 am

Sydney is at the almost the same latitude as Cape Town and winter can be miserable there, cold wet windy, I wonder if Sydney is the same?
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RE: Question About Australia

Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:51 am



Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 6):

You're not wrong there. Or even better, spend the same amount & take an extended stay!
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RE: Question About Australia

Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:29 am

I went to Cairns last year on the Great Barrier Reef and met a whole bunch of kids (30) doing this exact same program! Congrats on getting in because from what they said it's pretty hard.

They said they were having the time of lives, seeing some amazing stuff. I wouldn't pass this up, the Great Barrier Reef is awesome, seeing the sights of Sydney and Melbourne, cruising around Sydney harbour.

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 2):

The kids I met had been doing normal fundraising. The kids I met had flown all around Australia, also they were from Michigan so they had to fly to the west coast of the US too. They go on lots of tours and hire coaches and that sort of stuff.

Quoting Andz (Reply 8):
Sydney is at the almost the same latitude as Cape Town and winter can be miserable there, cold wet windy, I wonder if Sydney is the same?

It can be, but it can also be miserable during the middle of Summer (now) overcast days, humid and all the beaches closed. Winter does get a little cold but I'm sure its not as bad as Jetblueguy is used too.
 
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RE: Question About Australia

Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:10 pm



Quoting QFA380 (Reply 10):
I went to Cairns last year on the Great Barrier Reef and met a whole bunch of kids (30) doing this exact same program!

When exactly did you see them? Think we ran into the same cast of characters?

We saw a group in SYD airport on.... July 4th and flew to Darwin with them.

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 10):
Congrats on getting in because from what they said it's pretty hard.

I should have said that too but sorry! Congrats. Seems that back in...1997, it was a lot easier, hence my slight skepticism. I mean the invite just showed up in the mail. I don't know how I was selected.

Anyway, when you do return, we hope to read your trip report!
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RE: Question About Australia

Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:36 pm



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 2):
is there no way in which you could gain sponsorship?

I am trying really hard to find sponsorships. It is really hard. Any ideas of how I can get some fund raising?

Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 6):
I would expect to pay that for a tour of certain 3rd world nations where there are security, health, border processing, corruption and language barrier issues.

This all includes flights, hotels, food, any type of transportation other than flying and a home stay with a local resident for 2-3 days. If you do the math it is actually really good.

Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 11):
Anyway, when you do return, we hope to read your trip report!

I will definately post a report! that is if I could come up with the cash!
Thank you to all for your support!
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RE: Question About Australia

Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:54 pm



Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 11):
When exactly did you see them? Think we ran into the same cast of characters?

I forget the exact dates but it was about mid-July so I'd say we did see the same characters indeed. Small world
 
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RE: Question About Australia

Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:27 am



Quoting QFA380 (Reply 13):
I forget the exact dates but it was about mid-July so I'd say we did see the same characters indeed. Small world

Indeed a small world afterall.

Hey Blue, may I ask, how did you find out about People to People? Or did they contact you? And what did you have to do to be chosen?
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RE: Question About Australia

Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:15 am



Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 14):
Hey Blue, may I ask, how did you find out about People to People? Or did they contact you? And what did you have to do to be chosen?


I was selected by my former teacher in like the 7th grade. They contacted me last year but it was for Europe but back then I really couldn't afford it. This is more expensive but I'm more prepared. It is an extensive program. I received materials I have to study and we have 12 hours of courses at a local university where we learn about culture. I had to be interviewed to get in. I was a little nervous but now I'm one of 40 in Connecticut that gets to travel with this fabulous organization. I believe I was recommended by my principal. The "honorary" leader is George W. Bush. If you want some more info I can e-mail you some stuff.
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RE: Question About Australia

Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:11 am

for $7000 I'd want a tour of the Territory and the West, Sydney in winter can be a bitch, lots of hale storms and other bizarre weather...not sure how they come up with $7000 for that tour.
 
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RE: Question About Australia

Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:28 am



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Thread starter):
I have been accepted into this program People to People Student Ambassador Program

Just make sure this program is really what it says it is in terms of the Ambassador program. I've looked into programs like this in the past (and if I am thinking about the right program) this isn't really anything more in terms of the Ambassadorship than any of the other for-profit trips out there. Not that that is a bad thing, I'd just make sure that you know what exactly it is you are getting into.
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RE: Question About Australia

Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:54 am

i would hazard to guess a lot of that 7k is due to the need for pretty much round the clock supervision, as this group is fairly young.
 
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RE: Question About Australia

Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:32 am



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 15):

I was selected by my former teacher in like the 7th grade. They contacted me last year but it was for Europe but back then I really couldn't afford it. This is more expensive but I'm more prepared. It is an extensive program. I received materials I have to study and we have 12 hours of courses at a local university where we learn about culture. I had to be interviewed to get in. I was a little nervous but now I'm one of 40 in Connecticut that gets to travel with this fabulous organization. I believe I was recommended by my principal. The "honorary" leader is George W. Bush. If you want some more info I can e-mail you some stuff.
Blue

Please excuse my last post as I missed the post above before posting.

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 17):

Just make sure this program is really what it says it is in terms of the Ambassador program. I've looked into programs like this in the past (and if I am thinking about the right program) this isn't really anything more in terms of the Ambassadorship than any of the other for-profit trips out there. Not that that is a bad thing, I'd just make sure that you know what exactly it is you are getting into.

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RE: Question About Australia

Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:28 am

Hey JetBlue.
I have had 3 visits from People to People Ambassadors at my school, and apparently they thought we did a good job. When you are down in Sydney send me a PM and if it's my school, I'll beg the guy who organizes it to give a place.

And July is cold, but not freezing. Maybe minimum might be 8 degrees max will be about 20 at the most.

I have spoken to some of the People to People Ambassadors and they said it was great fun.
 
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RE: Question About Australia

Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:34 am



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Thread starter):
The trip costs 7,000 US so I really want to make sure my money is going to something good.



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 3):

I will be arriving July 14 and staying to August 4.



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 12):
If you do the math it is actually really good.

Not really, but if you are enjoying yourself, that is what counts. My girlfriend and I spent a week in Fes, Morocco and the whole trip for the two of us combined, including amazing accommodation, tours as far as Meknes/Volibulis, souvenirs, gifts for about 8 people each, food and some extra shopping in London came to less than $3500. $7000 seems like a big bite there.

Quoting ThreeFourThree (Reply 20):
Maybe minimum might be 8 degrees max will be about 20 at the most.

Translated to 45-68 degree
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RE: Question About Australia

Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:08 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 21):
$7000 seems like a big bite there.

You have any idea of prices here? Considering the tour is for 2-3 weeks USD7000 is probably quite cheap.

I've had a look at the website for this organisation and it appears to be similar to what is available to high school kids here with travel to similar areas. My niece had the opportunity to do a trip to the US a couple of years ago, which cost around AUD5000 for 3 weeks. The price included return flights SYD-LAX-SYD, all domestic US flights LAX-SFO-SEA-LAX, tour bus travel and visits to attractions in all 3 cities, hotel accommodation in SFO and LAX (homestay with families in SEA). In fact there should be a group of kids leaving from Sydney for the US about this time and return home around Australia Day, our kids also travel over in our summer school holidays, which puts them into winter in the US.

Blue, you're coming in winter, which for us Sydney locals is cold...but you'll find Sydney positively balmy compared to a CT winter..  And the temperature does increase the further north you go and you'll be laying on the beach in your swimwear once you hit the Gold Coast.   

EDIT: BTW my niece had a fantastic time on her trip and was rearing to go again when she got home.

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RE: Question About Australia

Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:21 pm



Quoting ThreeFourThree (Reply 20):
Hey JetBlue.
I have had 3 visits from People to People Ambassadors at my school, and apparently they thought we did a good job. When you are down in Sydney send me a PM and if it's my school, I'll beg the guy who organizes it to give a place.
I have spoken to some of the People to People Ambassadors and they said it was great fun.

Oh really. That would really be cool. Give me your e-mail and I'll get the dates and see if we are coming.
Thanks to all for your help!
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RE: Question About Australia

Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:42 pm



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 15):
was selected by my former teacher in like the 7th grade

THanks. So I'm guessing I was nominated at some point.

Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 18):
i would hazard to guess a lot of that 7k is due to the need for pretty much round the clock supervision, as this group is fairly young

see below  Smile :

Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 7):
. Also, chances are its paying for the guides/babysitters who will be with you on the trip.

While $7K is hefty, It might actually be reasonable. Airfare, transportation, lodging, food, and 24 hour supervision.

Quoting FlashFlyGuy (Reply 22):
My niece had the opportunity to do a trip to the US a couple of years ago, which cost around AUD5000 for 3 weeks. T



2 years ago, that probably translated to roughly 4K US? Not bad. I still miss 2001. the 2 for 1 sale that you guys are now enjoying when you visit the US  Wink

FAO, three four three, Im just clarifying. Was it that your school that was involved or where you part of the host family that offered lodging. Im wondering if the host familes see a bit of that 7K too.


N1120A hit it right, as long as you have a ball, who cares the cost.


Best of luck with fundraising. Depending on how you are fundraising, if you play your cards right, you might be able to raise some dollars from anetters.
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RE: Question About Australia

Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:14 pm



Quoting FlashFlyGuy (Reply 22):
Blue, you're coming in winter, which for us Sydney locals is cold...but you'll find Sydney positively balmy compared to a CT winter..� And the temperature does increase the further north you go and you'll be laying on the beach in your swimwear once you hit the Gold Coast. ��

Thanks a lot for all the informaton. It really looks pretty warm for the winter.

Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 24):
Best of luck with fundraising. Depending on how you are fundraising, if you play your cards right, you might be able to raise some dollars from anetters.

Do you know how I could fundraise from a.netters? I really thnk. that would be cool. I really wnted to go to the convention in Vegas but its during my break. Maybe there I would be able to raise some money. If you have any ideas on how I could do something on a.net to fundreaise give me a jingle.
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RE: Question About Australia

Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:37 pm

I get invited on People to People tours every year...I'll never go. My school does their own international tours, which are a lot cheaper, and I get to be with my best friends!
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Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:21 am



Quoting N22237 (Reply 26):
I get invited on People to People tours every year...I'll never go. My school does their own international tours, which are a lot cheaper, and I get to be with my best friends!

I understand that but this looks a lot better and you get to do more stuff that tourists only dream of doing.
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RE: Question About Australia

Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:48 pm

Good news everyone! I just got notice I have a full sponsorship and are going on the trip! Thanks to all for your help.
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RE: Question About Australia

Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:02 pm

That is great news! how did you score that?!

Congrats!
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RE: Question About Australia

Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:39 am



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 16):
Sydney in winter can be a bitch, lots of hale storms and other bizarre weather..

Another Sandgropher who has no idea what he's talking about!

Hale storms are far more likely in summer, if once or twice a year for a small one, can be called likely.

For some one from North America Sydney has NO weird weather!

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RE: Question About Australia

Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:42 am

You could have a much better trip to Australia than that for $7000 (US$ I take it?). For starters you can get return airfares to any of the major Australian cities for about $2000 (Qantas for example has some new deal going where you can fly to one city stay there for a bit, fly to another city or 2 and then fly back home in one airfare). In any case that leaves you with $5000. By the time you get insurance etc and accomodation (what level do you want? backpackers/hostels go for about $20-40 per night or cheaper for longer stays or you can get something pretty nice for about $100 per night). Food isn't particularly expensive in Australia especially if you can prepare some of it yourself (ie in the kitchen at the hostel). I reckon you could have a whole month in Australia incl airfares, accom, food etc for about US$4000 leaving you with US$3000 for drinks, partying, sightseeing, activities etc.

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RE: Question About Australia

Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:09 am



Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 29):
That is great news! how did you score that?!

Congrats!

My Grandfather has a stake in this copper company that is doing really well and he was able to come up with enough money to get me out thre.

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 31):
Have a good trip!

Thank you very much.
Thank you everyone for all your help and suggestions. I will file a trip repoet when I get back! Finally I can say 747 here I come!
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