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New Season Of Law & Order

Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:49 pm

So: Season 18 begins tonight (01/02/08); anyone going to be watching? Should be interesting to watch. The show as a whole has jumped the shark, but I'm hoping the new actors will shake things up a little bit.

Highlights:

- Sam Waterston becomes DA with the departure of Fred Thompson
- Linus Roache becomes the new ADA (Character name: Michael Cutter)
- Jeremy Sisto becomes Green's new partner (Character name: Cyrus Lupo)
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:36 pm

I kind of thought the whole series had run its course 2 seasons ago. It doesn't help it is on 24/7 on TBS, USA, and a few other places.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:09 pm

I don't know, but somehow, Law & Order isn't the same anymore since Jerry Orbach died.

At least there's still Law & Order CI, which I've recently come to enjoy because of the twists it has.
 
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:35 pm



Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 1):
I kind of thought the whole series had run its course 2 seasons ago. It doesn't help it is on 24/7 on TBS, USA, and a few other places.

Still nice to see some of the older ones. Seasons 1-5 and 14 are the only ones available on DVD (AFAIK), and I'm hoping 6-13 will at some point...
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:43 pm



Quoting BCAInfoSys (Thread starter):
So: Season 18 begins tonight (01/02/08); anyone going to be watching?

We'll be recording it on the DVR for viewing tomorrow.

We never watch commercials if we can help it.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 2):
I don't know, but somehow, Law & Order isn't the same anymore since Jerry Orbach died.

I thought that at first, but I've liked the change in personnel. Keeps the show fresh.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:11 am



Quoting BCAInfoSys (Thread starter):


- Sam Waterston becomes DA with the departure of Fred Thompson

Finally. I think having Jack in there will make that role more active and interesting.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 2):

At least there's still Law & Order CI, which I've recently come to enjoy because of the twists it has.

That is a great show. Pity they have buried it on USA

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 4):

I thought that at first, but I've liked the change in personnel. Keeps the show fresh.

I kind of liked when Lenny had a new Squiggy every few years, but remained a constant like Jack. Still, I don't think the show has gone downhill at all. The format is timeless.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:31 am



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 2):
I don't know, but somehow, Law & Order isn't the same anymore since Jerry Orbach died.

I totally agree. I loved Jerry Orbach.

We'll probably watch it this week to see how the new season is, hopefully it will be good, it usually is. The defense should win more often, so the ending isn't always so predictable. It used to be that way more in the early Michael Moriarty era than it seems to be now.
 
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:53 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):
Quoting LTU932 (Reply 2):

At least there's still Law & Order CI, which I've recently come to enjoy because of the twists it has.

That is a great show. Pity they have buried it on USA

Blame the programming geniuses at NBC for that one.

Quoting HuskyAviation (Reply 6):
It used to be that way more in the early Michael Moriarty era than it seems to be now.

When I watch the really old episodes with Moriarty, I am sooo thankful they canned him.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:08 am



Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7):

Blame the programming geniuses at NBC for that one.

Hey, NBC takes the blame for a lot of things these days. The writer's strike is a huge example of that.

Quoting HuskyAviation (Reply 6):
The defense should win more often, so the ending isn't always so predictable.

Agreed. It was much better when you couldn't predict things. Also, it wouldn't be bad seeing a genuinely not guilty person winning at trial, perhaps one the DA had pushed too far. Either that, or the DA fighting new DNA evidence that exonerates a defendant, which is more and more common these days.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:15 am



Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7):
When I watch the really old episodes with Moriarty, I am sooo thankful they canned him.

I thought he quit L&O? I thought there was something to do with his politics that prompted him to leave.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 8):
Also, it wouldn't be bad seeing a genuinely not guilty person winning at trial, perhaps one the DA had pushed too far. Either that, or the DA fighting new DNA evidence that exonerates a defendant, which is more and more common these days.

That would be interesting--wouldn't surprise me if something like that played out this season.
 
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:21 am



Quoting HuskyAviation (Reply 9):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7):
When I watch the really old episodes with Moriarty, I am sooo thankful they canned him.

I thought he quit L&O? I thought there was something to do with his politics that prompted him to leave.

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From 1990 to 1994, Moriarty starred as Ben Stone on Law & Order. He left the show in 1994, alleging that his departure was a result of his threatening a lawsuit against then-Attorney General Janet Reno, who had cited Law & Order as offensively violent. Moriarty criticized Reno's comment, and claimed that not only did she want to censor shows like Law and Order but also such fare as Murder, She Wrote. He later accused Law & Order executive producer Dick Wolf of not taking his concerns seriously, and claimed that Wolf and other network executives were "caving in" to Reno's "demands" on the issue of TV violence. Moriarty published a full page advertisement in a Hollywood trade magazine, calling upon fellow artists to stand up with him against attempts to censor TV show content.

Wolf and others working on Law & Order tell a different story, however. On November 18, 1993, Moriarty and Wolf, along with other television executives, met with Reno to dissuade her from supporting any law that would censor the show. Wolf said that Moriarty overreacted to any effect the law was likely to have on the show. Law & Order producers claim they were forced to remove Moriarty from the series because of "erratic behavior". One example reportedly happened during the filming of the episode "Breeder" when, according to the episode's director, Arthur Forney, Moriarty was unable to deliver his lines with a straight face. Series and network officials deny any connection to his departure and Janet Reno. Wolf also denies that the show has become less violent, graphic or controversial since 1994.

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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:01 am

Are all female ADAs hot models too?
 
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:10 am



Quoting Comorin (Reply 11):
Are all female ADAs hot models too?

 rotfl  Right. Just like every male Navy JAG looks like Tom Cruise, and every female JAG looks like Demi Moore.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:32 am

i thought it seemed kind of boring
but i think im moveing more towards CSI
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:53 am



Quoting Halls120 (Reply 12):
and every female JAG looks like Demi Moore.

I would hope they all looked like Catherine Bell  Wink

Quoting A380US (Reply 13):
i thought it seemed kind of boring
but i think im moveing more towards CSI

L&O is far more realistic than CSI could ever dream of being.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:54 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 14):
I would hope they all looked like Catherine Bell

 bigthumbsup 

I personally liked the new dynamic the show has because of the changes to the cast.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:21 pm

I liked Dennis Farina's character in one of the seasons.

Out of all of Jack McCoy's assistants, Angie Harmon was my favorite.

There's nothing wrong with the USA network. You can watch L&O CI and SUV back-to-back.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:43 pm



Quoting Miamiair (Reply 16):
I liked Dennis Farina's character in one of the seasons.

Out of all of Jack McCoy's assistants, Angie Harmon was my favorite.

 checkmark  We miss Dennis Farina, who always had the whiff of illegality about his character, and there has never been an assistant DA who played the part better than Angie Harmon.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:56 pm



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 2):
I don't know, but somehow, Law & Order isn't the same anymore since Jerry Orbach died.

 checkmark 
He's by far my favorite Law & Order personality.

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Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:33 pm

I'm a bit surprised no one has mentioned SVU yet. Mariska Hargitay is really looking MILFier with every episode!

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Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:01 pm



Quoting Queso (Reply 19):
I'm a bit surprised no one has mentioned SVU yet. Mariska Hargitay is really looking MILFier with every episode!

My favorite in the category has to be Catherine Bell.

Why hasn't she bumped ugly's with Elliott? They're both single.

Munch's character cracks me up with his one-liners too.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:10 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):
That is a great show. Pity they have buried it on USA

Law and Order CI, returns to the NBC network next week.

I watched both hours last night had no complaints about the characters, just will take some time to get use to the new relationships. I did think the Asst DA giving Green and Liebo(?) permission to search a business after the warrant was denied was a stretch.
 
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:14 pm



Quoting Miamiair (Reply 20):
Why hasn't she bumped ugly's with Elliott? They're both single.

I thought they were going to but he's recently reconciled with his wife because his wife came back to him when she found out she was knocked-up. Turns out it looks like it is his. So she "allowed" him to come back home.

Quoting Miamiair (Reply 20):
Munch's character cracks me up with his one-liners too.

Yeah, he's funny and his on-screen persona is the TV equivilent of Blackbird. The actor himself is severely anti. Ice-T's character had a funny line once when Munch asked him if he had any skeletons in his closet. His reply- "Yeah, I'm a Republican."
 
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:14 pm



Quoting Miamiair (Reply 20):
Why hasn't she bumped ugly's with Elliott? They're both single.

Elliott isn't single. He has been back with his wife and they just had another baby.
 
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:19 pm



Quoting Miamiair (Reply 20):
Munch's character cracks me up with his one-liners too.

I read that Munch didn't get his contract renewed for next season. Thought he was great in both Homicide and SUV.
 
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:19 pm



Quoting KROC (Reply 23):
Elliott isn't single. He has been back with his wife and they just had another baby.

Well shit. Elliott is a Sure-Shot Sniper; does a drive by and knocks her up. Oh well.

Quoting Queso (Reply 22):
The actor himself is severely anti

I know.

Funny how Ice-T plays a cop after all that shit he used to rap about.

They are great shows.

On CI, Goran sometimes gets on my nerves with his mannerisms.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:07 pm



Quoting Miamiair (Reply 25):
On CI, Goran sometimes gets on my nerves with his mannerisms.

Yeah, but you've got to admit D'Onofrio is one helluva actor! I'm sure you know he was Private Pyle in FMJ.
 
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:16 pm



Quoting Queso (Reply 26):
Quoting Miamiair (Reply 25):
On CI, Goran sometimes gets on my nerves with his mannerisms.

Yeah, but you've got to admit D'Onofrio is one helluva actor! I'm sure you know he was Private Pyle in FMJ.

A classic role. He was also the Bug in Men in Black.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:01 pm



Quoting Miamiair (Reply 16):
Out of all of Jack McCoy's assistants, Angie Harmon was my favorite.

 checkmark  If you remember how the character left, the writers left the door open for a return even for a few episodes.

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 18):
He's by far my favorite Law & Order personality.

RIP Det. L. Brisko

L&O wouldn't have been as successful as it has and is without him.

Quoting Queso (Reply 19):
Mariska Hargitay is really looking MILFier with every episode!

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Quoting AirCop (Reply 24):
I read that Munch didn't get his contract renewed for next season. Thought he was great in both Homicide and SUV.

What?! The longest-running (current) TV character is coming to an end?
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:32 pm



Quoting Queso (Reply 26):
Yeah, but you've got to admit D'Onofrio is one helluva actor! I'm sure you know he was Private Pyle in FMJ.

Indeed. I find that his "weird" behaviour as Detective Goran is what makes CI so enjoyable. Sometimes even the old Vincent D'Onofrio appears, the one from before the murder/suicide scene from FMJ, that is full attitude in those scenes minus the carnage. Quite a treat.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 27):
A classic role. He was also the Bug in Men in Black.

He was Edgar and the Bug? I didn't even pay attention to that.
 
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:49 pm



Quoting Miamiair (Reply 16):
I liked Dennis Farina's character in one of the seasons.

When he replaced Lenny, we started calling the duo Denny and Squiggy. I think Farina's suave tough guy persona was an excellent shot in the arm, and I loved the scenes when he essentially made people "an offer they couldn't refuse".

Quoting Miamiair (Reply 16):

Out of all of Jack McCoy's assistants, Angie Harmon was my favorite.

Couldn't stand her. Too whiney. I much preferred the blond who turned out to be a lesbian.

Quoting Queso (Reply 19):
Mariska Hargitay is really looking MILFier with every episode!

That woman looks more and more like the sex pot her mother was every single day. Pity for men everywhere that she is married.

Quoting Miamiair (Reply 20):

Why hasn't she bumped ugly's with Elliott?

I personally think it would kill the dynamic.

Quoting Miamiair (Reply 20):

Munch's character cracks me up with his one-liners too.

Munch is a great role.

Quoting AirCop (Reply 21):

Law and Order CI, returns to the NBC network next week.

YAY!

Quoting AirCop (Reply 24):

I read that Munch didn't get his contract renewed for next season.

Now that is stupid. Perhaps he wanted to get out of that role.

Quoting Queso (Reply 26):

Yeah, but you've got to admit D'Onofrio is one helluva actor!

He is absolutely awesome. The reason they brought Chris Noth back to do half the CI episodes is because D'Onofrio gets to into the role that he was collapsing on the set. Amazing actor.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:01 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 14):

L&O is far more realistic than CSI could ever dream of being.

yes but neither are realistic
and honostly i want something more exciting than true
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:29 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 14):
Quoting A380US (Reply 13):
i thought it seemed kind of boring
but i think im moveing more towards CSI

L&O is far more realistic than CSI could ever dream of being.

The Law and Order courtroom scenes are laughably inaccurate. Neither show is particularly technically accurate, but they are excellent entertainment, so we overlook the flaws.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:32 am



Quoting Halls120 (Reply 32):

The Law and Order courtroom scenes are laughably inaccurate.

I realize that, but I was more talking about the whether the show really exists within the realm of possibility.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 32):
Neither show is particularly technically accurate, but they are excellent entertainment, so we overlook the flaws.

I find that CSI really relies on minutia too much. Just not my thing.
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:43 am

I love the fictional street addresses in L&O - usually in the middle of the East or Hudson Rivers...

I can't believe 33 posts and no one has spoken of Jill Hennessy:

 
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RE: New Season Of Law & Order

Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:48 am



Quoting Comorin (Reply 34):
I can't believe 33 posts and no one has spoken of Jill Hennessy:

I wanted to mention her but never got around it. She seems to have been pretty great as one of the assistant DAs in L&O, but I didn't watch all the episodes with her to really compare.

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