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Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:19 pm

I am proud of Germany's History after 1946 and before the Nationalism which started with Wilhelm II .
But all in all Germany has a great History and after being completely destroyed after WW2 Germany got to be the 3 Economic World Power , not bad at all .

Are you ?


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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:22 pm

I am proud of my country.

There are a lot of things that I don't like about the US, but there is no other place I'd rather live.

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Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:25 pm

Used to be; not any more. The tourism industry has gone down the toilet, thansk to overpricing by hotels, airlines and taxes. There is no apparent judicial system at all. The current government is secretive, and becomes defensive when called on that fact...implications of coruption etc....

Don't get me wrong; it's still a beautiful island, but not somewhere I'd recommend for a first-time visitor.
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:27 pm

We used to such a great nation.

Now I would quite like to leave...
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Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:28 pm

Very proud, thanks.

Many things we don't do to my satisfaction or the way I'd specifically like them done, but still . . .

Having visited another 76 countries on the planet, lived in the 3 of them, I so prefer the US. I could easily live in Germany though . . .
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Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:30 pm

Far better not have just one country at all - enjoy them all. After all, does it make sense to be proud of one's country's achievement if one had no part in them oneself ? One make be pleased about the achievements, and enjoy their benefit, but take pride ? Seems misplaced, somehow.
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:33 pm

Well im of mixed background but the main influence which my Mothers from is Greece and Im proud of the Greek nation and its culture and its history !!! Im also proud of modern day Greece and the direction it is taking .

 
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:34 pm



Quoting N74JW (Reply 1):
I am proud of my country.



Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
Very proud, thanks.

All in All you both have very good reasons for it !

Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 2):

My father visited your country some years ago , and he loved it ! He said to me people were awesome ! Maybe you know the bureau of the Friedrich Ebert Stiftung he visited the Representative .

Quoting RicciPettit (Reply 3):
We used to such a great nation.

Now I would quite like to leave...

Because your colonies are buying you whole industry up or what happens ?  duck 

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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:39 pm



Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 7):
Because your colonies are buying you whole industry up or what happens ?

haha no... I just feel this country is now crippled with too much red tape and is far too overpopulated now was mass migration and so on.
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:59 pm



Quoting RicciPettit (Reply 8):
haha no... I just feel this country is now crippled with too much red tape and is far too overpopulated now was mass migration and so on.

I really liked your country when I was living there in 2004. However, what maybe hinders your country is that you reminisce in old times too much. It wasn't always great. It still is.
IMO Great Britain and especially England is, still, a beautiful country.

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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:03 pm



Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 7):
Maybe you know the bureau of the Friedrich Ebert Stiftung he visited the Representative .

Never heard of it...you sure he went to Bermuda?
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:05 pm

I LOVE my country and I am very proud of the United States of America!

 
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Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:06 pm

I'm proud of the USA. However, I'm a little depressed about what a group of numbnuts have dome with it over the past 7 years. Even more depressed about the fact that they think they've actually HELPED it.
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:12 pm

I am very proud of Canada! Although we aren't a major power we do have some good policies and I think we are going in the right direction, eh. Our voters can be a bit indecisive in my opinion so nothing radical comes out of our country (2 minority gov'ts in a row).

And we just won at the World Junior's Hockey Competition!  Smile

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Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:15 pm



Quoting RicciPettit (Reply 8):
haha no... I just feel this country is now crippled with too much red tape and is far too overpopulated now was mass migration and so on.

 checkmark   checkmark  Im English born and educated and its certainly NOT the country I was brought up in. Its criminal the way things have gone . Alot of people have the same feelings as you. I just remember the good days before the crap started. When I go back now I just am sad when I see my local area.
 
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:17 pm



Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 10):
Never heard of it...you sure he went to Bermuda?

yes he went to Bermuda just asked him again
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:40 pm

Interesting question. And I can't say that I expected my own reaction to it.

PROUD of my country? Not particularly. It is what it is. It is far from perfect. But there are certain aspects of it that I think are very much worth defending at all costs. The U.S. Constitution and the ideals of the Declaration of Independance, for a couple. Pity nobody believes in them anymore. We have a government that has gone completely apeshit over the past 70-80 years or so.

So I am proud of the foundations of my country, but not so proud of what we've done with it. Ronald Reagan was absolutely right - the government is the problem. But even he was powerless to fix it, and now it is so entrenched, with millions of people employed just to ensure complience with some dimwitted regulation (such as one in my industry which was designed to help fight the Spanish-American War over 100 years ago, is completely meaningless now but is still on the books and has to be complied with), so that if some enlightened souls found their way into Congress and stripped out all the bullshit, it would drive the country into a depression.

So, what does it mean when you have a country where, if you strip out the BS, the country ceases to function? Right! You have a country that runs on bullshit!

But when all is said and done, there are very few countries that are any better, and they are generally much smaller and easier to manage.
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:43 pm

I'm no longer proud of Britain. What ever happens we can't cope and can't run thing effectivly anymore.
If there is snow/rain/wind/hot weather the whole country become crippled, we follow America on everything, our government are hugely incompetent and everything is delayed, broken or in the process of being upgraded.
I can't wait to leave Britain now. In Britain if anything happens we just accept it and no one fights to protect their rights ect. unlike France where they strike until they get what they want.

Quoting RicciPettit (Reply 8):
I just feel this country is now crippled with too much red tape

I agree with this point, everything has to be checked to make sure it doesn't offend anybody or make anybody emotionally distressed, and then endless forms have to be filled in. In college we never go on trips because there is so much paper work and responsability placed on the teacher.
 
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:46 pm



Quoting SeansasLCY (Reply 17):

big Problem for the UK was the Privatization of the whole system it ones had . Just look at the Railway , German Politicians use this example to fight against a privatization of the German Railway .

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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:53 pm

I'm proud of mine, Like everyone, else, there are things that I personally feel could be done better, but overall, I personally feel that NZ a great place to be living in. And for our size of 4.5 million, I'd say we do raise a few eye brows from others in what we have managed to achieve and accomplish.
 
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:59 pm

I love it here and am generally proud of the country. Too many people don't realise how good it actually is and we seem to be getting a real self depreciation thing going on. Personally I blame the media for a lot of it.

That said it most definitely isn't perfect. Too much red tape, too many people claiming benefits they aren't entitled to, and a total fear of a rational open discussion on immigration policy are just a couple of things that I think need sorting.

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Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:14 pm

I'm not proud of my country. I have difficulty with grasping the concept of being "proud" of something that I didn't contribute anything to. Germany is a great place and I'm thankful and happy to have been born here. Perhaps the closest to pride I feel towards our open and tolerant society, to which I actively try to contribute.

Yet, I'm generally critical about pride as a sentiment. It is not without reason one of the Seven Deadly Sins. In comparison, I value its antagonist, modesty, much higher.
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:19 pm

not even close
i think that our countr has potential but cant be run properly
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:58 pm

No and yes.

I am not proud of the narrow-minded nationalism which has been a scourge on our country in the past. There are things about this country which infuriate me at times . . . . and yet . . . I don't think I could live anywhere else. I'm proud of the way things have gone over the last fifteen years and how we've managed to get our act together economically. It's very easy for detractors to say that without the EU we would still be a backwater, but this ignores how we've transformed the economy through inward investment, low taxation and employer-employee partnership. There's still a lot to be done, but at last we have turned the corner and hopefully banished those horrible recession years of the 1980s for good.
 
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:59 pm



Quoting Davehammer (Reply 21):
Too many people don't realise how good it actually is and we seem to be getting a real self depreciation thing going on

Sorry but i live in London, In my secondary school 5 children were murdered over a two year period, there are daily stabbings, robberies, attacks. We had 26 under 16s killed in London last year and already a week in and the death toll is at 3 under 16s stabbed to death. I don't think that is a country to be proud off. I see people on the bus who have no respect what so ever for anybody around them, Its just rediculous that you can no longer walk along a street and feel safe.

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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:12 pm

As a non national as im called here LOL.... I think that the Irish can be proud of their nation. There are certain things that frustrate me on a day to day basis but its certainly better than my life in the UK thats for sure. The Irish in general are far more liberal and welcoming in my experience. I never regretted moving here.

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 24):
I am not proud of the narrow-minded nationalism which has been a scourge on our country in the past.

I dont blame them for that . It was a country struggling to build a nation with the right to self determination. Historically the Irish were treated very badly and after such treatment you would expect a nationalist aspect. I think now though the right balance has been struck but its something it needed to go through to get to this stage today.

Just my 2 cents as a resident here for the last 10 years both North and South of the border.
 
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:12 pm

Not quite, for I have not yet done much in the way of helping build it. And with the way our healthcare system rewards doctors (not), I can very much see myself seeking to go elsewhere in the future... somewhere more relaxed, with better-aimed care for the little things. Scandinavia, that is, roughly.

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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:13 pm

I am extremely proud of the Britain, it has it's problems like anyother country but generally has worked towards the greater good and is generally a very open, fair and tolerant place to live.

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Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:15 pm

For Britain to be part of Europe is a joke. We do things our way and won't change anything, for instance, the Euro. We aren't going to change currency from GBP to Euro, therefore we aren't being very European, thus we shouldn't be in the European Union. Britain seems to be in a Continent of it's own, hence the reason I left there. Too many people being murdered, especially young people. Judges letting murderers walk free from court, but they'll lock someone up for stupid things like stealing a tin of baked beans. Just my 2 cents worth, and that's before I even start on asylum seekers etc.

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Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:20 pm



Quoting Sunshine79 (Reply 29):
For Britain to be part of Europe is a joke. We do things our way and won't change anything, for instance, the Euro. We aren't going to change currency from GBP to Euro, therefore we aren't being very European, thus we shouldn't be in the European Union.

Just because we have'nt joined the Euro yet does'nt mean that we aren't very European and we should exit the EU. There are several countries in the EU that have yet done so, we no doubt will do in the future but at that point it was better for the economy anyway.

Quoting Sunshine79 (Reply 29):
Too many people being murdered, especially young people.

This is a Worldwide issue and there are many countries where murder rates are significantly higher.

Quoting Sunshine79 (Reply 29):
Judges letting murderers walk free from court, but they'll lock someone up for stupid things like stealing a tin of baked beans.

Different judges have different viewpoints on handling crimes and the appropriate punishments, this is how justice systems work; you can find the same elsewhere.

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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:27 pm



Quoting TUIflyer (Reply 30):
Quoting Sunshine79 (Reply 29):
Judges letting murderers walk free from court, but they'll lock someone up for stupid things like stealing a tin of baked beans.

Different judges have different viewpoints on handling crimes and the appropriate punishments, this is how justice systems work; you can find the same elsewhere.

We actually had the case of people caught spraying graffitti got a longer sentence than that man caught downloading child pornography. I find it stupid that people get to have reduced sentences if they behave well in prision.
As well as this we have a government not capable of even looking after our data who then want us to go ahead with ID cards!
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:34 pm

I'm very proud of the USA. I'm proud of all the sacrifices brave men and women have made and are making so that I may live in such a great country. I'm proud of what our countrymen all do each day as Americans to contribute to our country.

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 12):
I'm proud of the USA. However, I'm a little depressed about what a group of numbnuts have dome with it over the past 7 years. Even more depressed about the fact that they think they've actually HELPED it.

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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:39 pm



Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 15):
yes he went to Bermuda just asked him again

Ok,forgive my ignorance, but what's the bureau of the Friedrich Ebert Stiftung and where is it located? I've nevr heard of it in my life....
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:41 pm

I am very proud of the US. I am not always proud of the way the government -- any government, not just the current administration--handles things, but overall I am proud of my country and its citizens.

Americans overall are very giving, helpful people who truly care about their fellow man. I have witnessed acts of kindness that have left me speechless. Also, it is a place where you really can come from a very disadvantaged background and make something good of yourself if you are willing to put in some hard work and commitment behind it, and play by the rules.

I am sorry to hear all the people from the UK dissing their country. I love Britain and consider it my second home since my mother hails from there.
 
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:42 pm



Quoting OA260 (Reply 26):
It was a country struggling to build a nation with the right to self determination. Historically the Irish were treated very badly and after such treatment you would expect a nationalist aspect.

For sure, but things have moved on and it's time to put all the bitterness behind. I know people from both sides of the divide in Northern Ireland and I really do believe they have more in common with each other than their counterparts in the the rest of the UK or the Republic. It's time to move on from all that . . .

And a belated ευπρόσδεκτος,to the country OA260! Immigrants are a very welcome part of our society nowadays. Anything that broadens our horizons can only be a good thing.  Smile
 
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:00 am



Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 35):
I know people from both sides of the divide in Northern Ireland and I really do believe they have more in common with each other than their counterparts in the the rest of the UK or the Republic

True ... the idea of a United Ireland is a nice one but not realistic anymore as too many years have passed being seperated. Closer co operation is the key with All Ireland bodies where it makes social and economic sense. I hope that they do the same thing in Cyprus one day.

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Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:00 am



Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 32):

I'm very proud of the USA. I'm proud of all the sacrifices brave men and women have made and are making so that I may live in such a great country. I'm proud of what our countrymen all do each day as Americans to contribute to our country.

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 12):
I'm proud of the USA. However, I'm a little depressed about what a group of numbnuts have dome with it over the past 7 years. Even more depressed about the fact that they think they've actually HELPED it.

I don't care if your democrat,republican or moderate who see the red,white and blue in their eyes.We're the same in this case,proud to be American.Prepared to die,if necessary.There's no identity crisis! But there seems to be one in D.C. who see only the color green.

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Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:07 am



Quoting SeansasLCY (Reply 31):

I totally agree with you but that is how a democratic justice system works unfortunately, although it does make a mockery of the system if criminals know if they are going to get an easy ride from a certain liberal judge.

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Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:39 am

Yeah, mark me down as proud of the USA as well. Big grin
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:49 am

I am not!
For a simple reason: the concept of being "proud" of one's country is flawed and all wrong.
I am glad I have been born and raised in Germany (even though A LOT could be/could have done better) providing a safe environment to grow up and giving me some decent education (even though we now have to pay for education, truly insane).
But I am not proud of "my" country because I had NOTHING to do with what it is or was. I can only be proud of what I have achieved or done. For the record: neither am I ashamed to be what I am.

The "concept" (for lack of a better word) of national pride IMHO is all flawed, all wrong, illogical and negative (bad). It is something for the lazy to hide behind.

I do not point my finger at anyone, but hearing the line "I am proud to be ..." is disturbing and I can say I have NEVER felt that way, because there is no logic supporting it.
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:02 am



Quoting Stratofish (Reply 40):
The "concept" (for lack of a better word) of national pride IMHO is all flawed, all wrong, illogical and negative (bad). It is something for the lazy to hide behind.

Yes, national pride can be understood as nationalism as well, and nationalism is most of the time a perversion of the concept of Patriotism. A true patriot genuinely loves his country, while a nationalist will always have some kind of agenda, mostly a political one, through which to (ab)use (of) patriotism because many people simply don't know the difference between patriotism and nationalism.

I personally consider myself a patriot, because I genuinely love my country despite its flaws. What we can be proud of as Germans, and I'm not talking about having a national pride or anything similar, is that our country has faced its dark past and is not hiding behind it or denying what has happened. Germany has taken responsibility for the actions of a group of ultra-nationalists murderers who ruled and ruined our country for 12 years, and has done everything to prevent such a dictatorship from happening again by building a solid democracy, a stable economy, and by learning the painful lessons of history, it has become one of the most diverse, open, peaceful countries in the world and a driver for the continuous peaceful unification of all of Europe.
 
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:05 am

I am proud of the USA. We have one of the most amazing and stable governments produced from revolutionary ideas of individualism and rights. The constitution is one of the greatest documents ever produced. While many scoff at our sense of "culture", it is there and has influenced the world over. (For better or worse I guess) Jazz, rock, country, folk, blue grass, big bands, funk, blues, disco, rap, Mark Twain, Poe, Hemmingway, Henry Miller, Steinbeck, Mailer, Kerouk, Longfellow, Vonnegut, Whitman, Ellison, Andrew Wyeth, Winslow Homer, etc etc.

I am very proud of my fellow Americans and all that we have accomplished in this world.

As for the current state of the US, it could be better- it could be worse. I am personally disgusted by the amount of materialism that I am surrounded by. I do live in Scottsdale, so maybe I am more susceptible to it then others, but I see baby boomers who were once idealic hippies coveting their multiple homes and german cars all the while pretending that they are some type of uber sensualist/idealists. I see alot of kids coming out of college with no other dreams then the same bs dreams of this older generation. "Live life easy at no matter the expense! I would rather buy andExcursion to go snowboarding then try to help find solutions to our problems!"

I hate that alcoholism and drug addictions decimate entire generations of families in this country so easily.

I love the Americans who are the workers and dreamers. Busting their ass through 12 hour days but still going out with their friends in their spare time and finding a love of life. The artists who won't let anything get them down are our hope as well. Anything is possible in America!

I don't like how our systems (mainly justice and political) no longer look at people as the individuals that our forefathers wanted them to be seen as. Instead there's just one big freaking meat grinder where everybody gets thrown in and treated as a nameless and faceless slab of meat.

There is some bad. There is alot of good. I am proud to be American.
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:12 am



Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 5):
Far better not have just one country at all - enjoy them all. After all, does it make sense to be proud of one's country's achievement if one had no part in them oneself ? One make be pleased about the achievements, and enjoy their benefit, but take pride ? Seems misplaced, somehow.

 checkmark   thumbsup  ....spot on to JGPH1A (I can't believe I said that  Wink).

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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:38 am

Very interesting question, Constantin, and one I find very hard to answer. See, I don't have a "country", as I'm from Puerto Rico, one of the very few remaining colonies left in the world (otherwise known as a "territory" of the US, we're US citizens, hence the US flag by my name). Not sure if proud is the right word, but I always get a fuzzy feeling everytime somebody mentions that little island. As a US citizen, though, can't say I'm proud of the US. I appreciate it, it's my "country", and as a current member of the US Air Force, I'm doing my part to contribute to it. But many decisions US leaders have made over the last, oh, 60-odd years leave something to be desired, and the general population in the mainland lacks culture and education. There are way too many social issues that folks here like to ignore and pretend that we are all getting along, issues like racial discrimination, citizens without health insurance, uncontrolled urban sprawl, a crisis in the education system that threatens to take away our place in the world as innovators, and so on. Perhaps my biggest gripe is the fact that we are like the last major western country that still won't acknowledge same-sex unions (and benefits for them) yet we go around the word preaching "democracy", "justice", and "freedom". Not that it's all bad, I enjoy a lot of the things that the US has provided and done, and I enjoy the life that I have worked for myself. But I honestly can't say that I'm proud of the US.

Btw, been to Germany twice now and absolutely loved it! Would take a job in Koln any day just to live there!

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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:44 am

Absolutely I am proud of my country. The U.S. is my home, and I love what this nation stands for. So I say let the rest of the world go on hating America, calling us bullies or imperialists because I am proud as hell to live in such a fine nation. I would lay down my life for my country if I was called to do so.
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:46 am

Small wonder that we germans in here are a bit more cautious than most.

"Pride" is not exactly the right word for me. I would say that there are some really cool things about Germany which I like a lot. There's also a lot of the usual bullshit (and some unusual bullshit in addition), but all in all I like it here.

The good thing about the way I see it is that although one country feels more like "home" for me than any other (at least right now), I feel free to appreciate the cool things about all the other countries as well without having a problem about it.

We've collectively made the experience what national pride can be in its more extreme forms; So I prefer to appreciate all the countries, even if just one of them feels like home for me.  Smile
 
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:49 am



Quoting DC10extender (Reply 45):
So I say let the rest of the world go on hating America, calling us bullies or imperialists

Actually, most people just think that a really fine country currently has a government that really sucks. Not the same thing.

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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:51 am

I'm very proud to be Canadian.

Quoting AF340 (Reply 13):

And we just won at the World Junior's Hockey Competition!

Hell yes we did! Fantastic game!
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:52 am



Quoting Stratofish (Reply 40):
the concept of being "proud" of one's country is flawed and all wrong.



Quoting Stratofish (Reply 40):
But I am not proud of "my" country because I had NOTHING to do with what it is or was. I can only be proud of what I have achieved or done.



Quoting Stratofish (Reply 40):
The "concept" (for lack of a better word) of national pride IMHO is all flawed, all wrong, illogical and negative (bad). It is something for the lazy to hide behind.



Quoting Stratofish (Reply 40):
I do not point my finger at anyone, but hearing the line "I am proud to be ..." is disturbing and I can say I have NEVER felt that way, because there is no logic supporting it.

Christ dude, lighten up! You're not under oath--nobody is going to accuse you of using the word "proud" incorrectly.
 
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RE: Are You Proud Of Your Country?

Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:57 am



Quoting N74JW (Reply 1):
No one nation is perfect...

India is or nearly...


I am very proud with India, the achievements we have done in so little time. Again I have no clue about politics but I am happy for who we are regardless of what others think of India.

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