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Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:11 am

Get the full election coverage here;
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#FL










What I find interesting is that Rudy had Florida excusivley to himself for the past two months. The more he exposed himself to Florida voters, the more he turned the voters off.
I find it comical to see how confident some of his supporters were.


NIKV69:
posted Fri Jan 4 2008

Wishful thinking. Huckabee has no shot at winning anything. Rudy will win and actually do something.

It's going to be Rudy against Hillary pal, and Rudy will win.

Hillary would be a disaster which is why she will be losing to Rudy this November,


Will Rudy throw in the towel tonight or wait until he gets a Super-Tuesday Super-buttwhiping?
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:13 am



Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
Will Rudy throw in the towel tonight

Tomorrow morning would be my guess. Looks like the people of Florida finally and the other states saw who he really is.
 
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:14 am



Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
Will Rudy throw in the towel tonight or wait until he gets a Super-Tuesday Super-buttwhiping?

He has no chance. He should throw in the towel before he makes a fool of himself anymore.
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:15 am



Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):
Looks like the people of Florida finally and the other states saw who he really is.

Yeah, the nation has learned what NYC already knew - Rudy is not presidential material.

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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:19 am

Congratulations to Rudy for his highest finish so far.

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
Will Rudy throw in the towel tonight or wait until he gets a Super-Tuesday Super-buttwhiping?

And lose badly to McCain in his home state? I doubt it.
BTW, he only spent $60 million for one delegate.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:22 am

I can't believe he actually believed he had a chance of winning. Not competing until Florida was one of the most foolish things I've seen a cadidate do in a long time. And then he said he could win Florida? Ha! There aren't THAT many rich retired New York Jews in Florida, pally.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:33 am



Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
What I find interesting is that Rudy had Florida excusivley to himself for the past two months. The more he exposed himself to Florida voters, the more he turned the voters off.

Well, Superfly, you might be right, but it also might be that he had the wrong political strategy and circumstances otherwise really. Rudy is going to lose votes if voters feel he does not have a reasonable chance of winning.

He was also nailed on the Bernie Kerik issue...but its not as if the Clintons (for example) don't have half a dozen cronies that got in trouble either. And lets remember, Bill Clinton himself was probably a failed candidate as well without Ross Perot in the race. Again, circumstances and a stalking horse.

Its not simply the "Florida voters" either. Rudy is a fiscal conservative but not, in broad terms, a social conservative. Not a standard Republican candidate. ... How do you suppose the "Florida voters" (republicans) would have welcomed an Obama or a Clinton? Now we'd probably be getting more to that "turned off" zone..
 
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:50 am



Quoting TomTurner (Reply 6):
Rudy is a fiscal conservative



Quoting Confuscius (Reply 4):
BTW, he only spent $60 million for one delegate.

 confused 

Quoting TomTurner (Reply 6):
How do you suppose the "Florida voters" (republicans) would have welcomed an Obama or a Clinton? Now we'd probably be getting more to that "turned off" zone..

I agree. That was a stupid decision by the DNC to bar Florida and Michigan.

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 5):
There aren't THAT many rich retired New York Jews in Florida, pally.

Most of those voters are Democrats anyway.

Quoting Mir (Reply 3):
Yeah, the nation has learned what NYC already knew - Rudy is not presidential material.

It's not too often that good news comes out of Florida.



Image and perception is everything in politics. Going purely by the numbers, Rudy had the right idea. However, you can't just entirely skip out on the first 6 primaries and focus on one state.
What a idiot.
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:52 am



Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
Most of those voters are Democrats anyway.

Well... I that case he's simply a dumb fuck. Nothing else to say.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:06 am

Superfly,

One measly delegate to show for after spending that much money. Maybe he can partner with Dubya in the oil business.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:10 am

Well, looks like Rudy will endorse McCain now...

http://thepage.time.com/2008/01/29/a-deal/
 
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:26 am

He's speaking now - really sounds like he's done.

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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:01 am

Rudy is not qualified to be president. He didn't have that great a track record in NYC, and, whether you like it or not, he campaigned on two things: him being "America's Mayor", because of being in NYC during 9/11, and "lower taxes.". People are tired of being reminded about 9/11, and people are smart enough to realize that simply lowering taxes won't solve all our woes.

I wa pretty sure he'd flame out once the bright glare of a national campaign shone on him, and I was right-he wasn't up to being on that stage.

Now, it's John McCain's nomination to win or lose.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:08 am



Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
Will Rudy throw in the towel tonight or wait until he gets a Super-Tuesday Super-buttwhiping?

He has and will endorse McCain. Either way you gal Hillary will be eating crow in Nov.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 12):
He didn't have that great a track record in NYC

You kidding? He turned the city around. My God say what you want about his Pres campaign but he was a hell of a mayor and did a ton for NYC, and I don't mean 9/11 either.
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:13 am



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 13):
He has and will endorse McCain. Either way you gal Hillary will be eating crow in Nov.

No one mentioned Hillary did they? YOUR GUY was a wimp, and had no business being in this race. He can't handle a national race, and had no business running for POTUS. Thank God he's out of the race.

As for Hillary, I hope she wins just to bug the freaking crap out of people like you for at least 4 years.

For now, I'm with Barack Obama.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 13):
You kidding? He turned the city around. My God say what you want about his Pres campaign but he was a hell of a mayor and did a ton for NYC, and I don't mean 9/11 either.

As they like to say at U.S. sporting events: "OVER-RATED!"  rotfl 

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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:14 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 12):
Rudy is not qualified to be president. He didn't have that great a track record in NYC, and, whether you like it or not, he campaigned on two things: him being "America's Mayor", because of being in NYC during 9/11, and "lower taxes.". People are tired of being reminded about 9/11, and people are smart enough to realize that simply lowering taxes won't solve all our woes.

And yet, he has run bigger governmental and non-governmental organizations than either HRC or OBL.

Tell me again, what makes Hillary or Obama for that matter qualified to be president? I take it from your signature line that you're an Obama supporter. Remind us, what makes him Presidential? What has he run? What has he accomplished? What exactly is his experience in or out of government?

OBL in fact ducked most of the hard votes when he was in the IL legislature - I think the number was something like 120+ votes. Say what you want about the existing President but at least he didn't duck the hard issues. The President of the United States doesn't get to vote "Present" when there's a hard issue before him. He doesn't get to say, I'll show up but not take a position.

So before you attack Rudy's qualifications, I think you should be able to point to specific qualifications in the candidates you support that distinguish him or her from the person you are criticizing - if not you're just being hypocritical.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:16 am

Quoting Pope (Reply 15):
OBL in fact ducked most of the hard votes when he was in the IL legislature - I think the number was something like 120+ votes.

Huh? Osama bin Laden an Illinois legislator? Perhaps a Freudian slip?

Quick! edit while you still can!

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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:19 am



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 13):
Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 12):
He didn't have that great a track record in NYC

You kidding? He turned the city around. My God say what you want about his Pres campaign but he was a hell of a mayor and did a ton for NYC, and I don't mean 9/11 either.

Like the man or not he did clean up NYC from a crime ridden city to a somewhat respectable metropolis or at least got the credit for it. He was responsible for putting away some crime families as well. Having said that if anyone has not lived in NYC when Giuliani was mayor you wouldn't know much about him or what he has done as mayor other than what the nation already knows is 9/11 and lowering taxes.

Does this mean I was rooting for the guy? Absolutely not. He was a good mayor but not a strong candidate for the Republican Ticket.

I didn't think he had much of a chance at the white house with the baggage in his past
 
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:23 am

Never mind, issue already addressed.

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Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:26 am



Quoting Pope (Reply 15):
OBL

Slip of the keyboard there, Pope, or are you trying to play that old game with Obama's name again?
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:27 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 14):
YOUR GUY was a wimp, and had no business being in this race

An Obama does? LOLOL, a year ago nobody even knew him. He is nothing but flash and like we saw today the states that actually mean something he gets his ass handed to him. He will be gone soon.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 14):
As for Hillary, I hope she wins just to bug the freaking crap out of people like you for at least 4 years.

That is fine, most already realize she loses in the general so I will be all over you for the next 4 years when you start crying like you did in 04'.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:29 am



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 20):
An Obama does? LOLOL, a year ago nobody even knew him.

A year ago, you were crowing about Rudy and he's gone. 'Nuff said.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 20):
He is nothing but flash and like we saw today the states that actually mean something he gets his ass handed to him.

You mean, in Florida, where there are NO DELEGATES? And where no Democrat save Hillary campaigned?

Uh, OK.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 20):
That is fine, most already realize she loses in the general so I will be all over you for the next 4 years when you start crying like you did in 04'.

Well, since I think a Democrat will win, I won't be the one crying.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:58 am



Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 5):



Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 5):
Ha! There aren't THAT many rich retired New York Jews in Florida, pally.

Retired New York Jews, even the rich ones tend to vote Democratic.
 
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:03 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 21):
You mean, in Florida, where there are NO DELEGATES? And where no Democrat save Hillary campaigned?

Uh, OK.

Doesn't matter still shows that the big diverse states will vote for the Hillary machine. SC and Iowa are over and so is Obama.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 21):
Well, since I think a Democrat will win, I won't be the one crying.

Like 04'? Trust me this country will never elect that Shrew, I could run against her and beat her. Election night will be so good here I can't wait.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:21 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 12):
Rudy is not qualified to be president. He didn't have that great a track record in NYC,

He didn't?? Well I used to live in NJ and remember Koch and Dinkins. I kind of liked Koch because he is likeable but he was lame and don't even get me started on that loser Dinkins. Rudy like Cfalk aluded to in a previous post had to do some unpopular things but I can now drive through the lincoln tunnel into NYC and not "squeege men" extorting money from me every damn day. Rudy did clean up that city no matter how you slice it. as for 9/11 I didn't see that he did anything all that special. In fact I turned against him once when he backed Mario Cuomo for Gov of NY but that is another story. Who of them is qualified to run for pres? Obama? ...Well if McCain winds up being the nominee I for one have real issues with his immigration stand and getting together with old Teddie Kennedy. But any democrat that gets in is going to go soft on that issue anyway.
 
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:26 am



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 23):
I could run against her and beat her

Haha. If that were so, 99% of people from this forum could then run against and beat you. Now THAT is saying something!
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:59 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 19):
Slip of the keyboard there, Pope, or are you trying to play that old game with Obama's name again?

Seems like the latter.


Hey Superfly,

I left this messsage on a FOX News website article on Rudy Guiliani dropping out and endorsing John McCain. Of course, most people posting there are disappointed. I wonder if it's gonna be posted anyway. Shoot! I misspelled Schwarzkopf's name.

Cut and Run already?!

One-state strategy won't work when there are fifty.

To paraphrase H. Norman Schawrzkopf [sic]: "Rudy is neither a strategist, nor is he schooled in the operational art, nor is he a tactician...Other than that he is a great politician."
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:03 am



Quoting Pope (Reply 15):

Tell me again, what makes Hillary or Obama for that matter qualified to be president?

George

W

Bush

....with him being the BIG FAT ZERO he is.... either of the two you mentioned above, (plus McCain) would weigh in as a 3 out of 10 at their very WORST - in qualifications and yet-to-be-seen performance.

It's win-win situation for the people of America -- no matter who takes it in Nov.


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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:21 am



Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
Will Rudy throw in the towel tonight

I for a while had the impression that Mr Giuliani always talked about his 9-11 topic AND about terrorism. And I can understand that people are getting fed up. And his career both as police-chief and city-mayor was based on his work in regard to safety and security, and as enormous as that work certainly was, it hardly has any political entertainment-value. True, Richard Nixon in 1968 won with his "law-and-order" rethorics, but you canNOT take such things for granted into the future. After the green, yellow, pink, red and blue "alerts" of the GWB presidency, people may now wish something else.
 
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:49 pm

I knew Rudy was a bad choice from day one.. He was mayor of New York City so it isn't a question of IF he has mob ties, it was just an issue of how deep were the ties and how long would it take the democrats to try and destroy him over them.

I really don't think I have ever been as completely disinterested in an election as I am in this one.

I wonder if that guy who always runs for president from jail is running.. I think I will vote for him.

Maybe I will write in for ANCFlyer's Hat.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:03 pm



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 19):
Slip of the keyboard there, Pope, or are you trying to play that old game with Obama's name again?

Sorry. It was completely unintended. It was late and I wasn't paying attention.
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:13 pm



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 20):
An Obama does? LOLOL, a year ago nobody even knew him. He is nothing but flash and like we saw today the states that actually mean something he gets his ass handed to him. He will be gone soon.

Could not the same be said about Clinton and Kennedy before they became presidential candidates, I seem to have read something like that.
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:19 pm



Quoting Columba (Reply 31):
Could not the same be said about Clinton and Kennedy before they became presidential candidates

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Possibly not so much about Clinton who had governed a US state, but in case of JFK it was a fact that JFK would have lost without the women, as the men in the USA by majority felt the lack of experience of JFK. The German speaking press and the radio-stations in 1960 clearly favoured Richard Nixon, the VicePresident of Ike . And also overhere, the men favoured Nixon while women, particularily younger women were attracted by JFK .
 
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:32 pm



Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 5):
I can't believe he actually believed he had a chance of winning. Not competing until Florida was one of the most foolish things I've seen a cadidate do in a long time.

 checkmark 

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
That was a stupid decision by the DNC to bar Florida and Michigan.

Yeah, rules are stupid things that just get in the way of everybodies fun!
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:33 pm



Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 5):
There aren't THAT many rich retired New York Jews in Florida, pally.

On top of that ACM, those folks are Democrats, and were shut out of the primary.
 
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:41 pm

Guiliani never had a chance to get the nomination. He was from NY City, A Yankee fan, too liberal for the Republican base, overplayed 9/11, is into his 3rd wife, hated by many (especially Blacks), had too many crooked friends (like Kerik) and just had an obnoxious personality.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:22 pm



Quoting Pope (Reply 15):
Tell me again, what makes Hillary or Obama for that matter qualified to be president?

Now dont go upsetting the apple cart Pope.

I dont mind admitting that I was supporting Rudy , I still think he is the best candidate on the ticket either party. I believe that his campaign seriously underestimated the "fervor" of Iowa , NH ,SC.. could be the worst campaign decision of all times.

Comparing the experience level that Rudy has to either one of the democrats is well ,, if you have to ask then forget about it.

I love the debate we have had in the GOP , spending , security , immigration , religion , Tax reform , foreign policy and conservative values . Dem debate .. Who is more Black ... Bill or Barack  Wink

But I will take my crow with , mushroom gravy !
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:15 pm



Quoting Columba (Reply 31):
Could not the same be said about Clinton and Kennedy before they became presidential candidates, I seem to have read something like that.

Check your sources, Bubba and Kennedy where definately more known than Obama.

Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 25):
Haha. If that were so, 99% of people from this forum could then run against and beat you. Now THAT is saying something

You got to get out of that vacuum your living in dude.
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:20 pm



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 37):

You got to get out of that vacuum your living in dude.

Seriously Nik.. 99% of this forum could run against, and beat YOU... I can't speak for how many of us could beat Hillary though.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:59 pm

While he did truly provide a rousing but steady presence in the wake of the attacks, it was a case of.....someone had to.
No doubt he did a lot to improve NY at street level too.
But c'mon, in the wake of the 1993 WTC bombing, who thought a good place to put a command centre, for such events or worse, was in the WTC?
Then as stated, his mobbed up associate.

But I don't get this stuff about 'too socially liberal', unless in translates as 'rational and grown up about consensual adult sexual behavior and all it's complexities and flaws'.
It seems that US GOP social conservatives are OBSESSED about sex. Really, the amount of energy and instances of raised blood pressure on this subject is amazing, very juvenile, a little creepy even.
 
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:56 pm



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 37):
Check your sources, Bubba and Kennedy where definately more known than Obama.

I think you're right about JFK. His family was already well know.

But I know for a fact the WJC wasn't very well known. I was a Congressional intern in the summer of 1991 and remember having a conversation with Charlie Rangel where we was talking about this "new kid" from Arkansas who was going to run for President "next year". He kept saying how this kid had some real potential and how he was going to give GHWB a run for his money.

I made an ass of myself by saying, "Are you crazy - what kind of moron runs against an incumbent President who is coming off of a huge war victory." Well we all know what happened in Nov 1992.
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:24 pm

Just poking some fun. . .







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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:24 pm



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 21):
Well, since I think a Democrat will win, I won't be the one crying.



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 23):
Like 04'? Trust me this country will never elect that Shrew, I could run against her and beat her. Election night will be so good here I can't wait.

I'll give you two this.. you got balls to step out there and predict...

Just in the last year, Rudy went from 1st to out. Fred Thompson went from no name to first to (almost) first out. John McCain went from Hero, to Zero, back to now hero. Hillary Clinton went from inevitable to maybe, maybe not. Obama went from a speech to a front leader.

The only two things that have remained and will remain is John Edwards had no chance, and Ron Paul will always get only 5% of the vote, and he should start a bed sheet company instead of running for prez because he's got thousands of them hanging on the clotheslines (aka bridges) above the interstates.

If I had to call it like you both tried? I'd say right now its going to be 51-49%, with someone winning.

This has been one strange primary year.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:43 pm



Quoting Pope (Reply 15):
OBL in fact ducked most of the hard votes when he was in the IL legislature....

Grow up.

Quoting GDB (Reply 39):
It seems that US GOP social conservatives are OBSESSED about sex. Really, the amount of energy and instances of raised blood pressure on this subject is amazing, very juvenile, a little creepy even.

You can say that again. Yet they are the once that get busted with some of the most lewd acts; airport bathroom stalls, Congressional pages, etc.

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 26):
Cut and Run already?!

One-state strategy won't work when there are fifty.

To paraphrase H. Norman Schawrzkopf [sic]: "Rudy is neither a strategist, nor is he schooled in the operational art, nor is he a tactician...Other than that he is a great politician."

Nice!  Smile
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:09 pm

It seems to me that Giuliani went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public, thus proving P.T. Barnum once and for all wrong.

The New York Daily News ran an article today about Chuck Grassley (Senator from Iowa) that says he unloaded on Julie Annie about the "New York lifestyle",(whatever that is) saying that it didn't travel well. Nobody else has picked the story up so far, but I have to figure it actually happened.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...enator_says_ny_attitude_cost_.html

Of course, Hizzoner appearing in drag and squiring around the bimbo of the week really didn't help matters-nor did the Bernie Karrik contretemps. But nevermind.

People there are ready to declare a jihad, and there's a veritable hurricane of fatwas are flying from all the usual mullahs.

However, like a fumble fingered rookie dentist with one of those horrible metal probes, what Farmer Chuck (as he is known here) did was inartfully expose all the contempt that many people in the Apple have for anything west of the Hudson. As long as we're a bunch of illiterate and inbred bumpkins out here, everything's fine, and we can safely be ignored jst as long as we keep sending truckloads of all the things we make and grow. But let anyone west of Jersey City mumble that maybe New York is not the ultimate arbiter of all things regarding science, decorum, taste, good government, ethics and morality, and the fan hits the shit, so to speak.

If New York's such a great place, how come it never fails to produce the likes of John Gotti and Joey Gallo and Vincent the Chin, for Chrissakes?

there's a famous old cartoon from the New Yorker which shows the Manhattanite's view of geography west of the Hudson. If I decide to spring for the New Yorker DVD archive I may actually locate it.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:30 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 43):
You can say that again. Yet they are the once that get busted with some of the most lewd acts; airport bathroom stalls, Congressional pages, etc.

Yeah, democratic politicos would never do anything like that.  faint 

I was never a Giuliani supporter, he talks smart but doesn't act it in real life. But Larry, this thread is similar to taunting in the NFL. Poor sportsmanship, 15 yards, loss of down. I'm quite certain it's still a free country where you can support the nominee of your choice. Taunting someone when that nominee has not proven themselves worthy of large scale support seems kind of low.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:23 pm



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 45):
Taunting someone when that nominee has not proven themselves worthy of large scale support seems kind of low.

Airliners.net's most staunch conservative is asking me to show sympathy for Rudy?
Cry me a river.


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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:26 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 46):
Airliners.net's most staunch conservative is asking me to show sympathy for Rudy?

Nope, as usual you have incorrectly read the post.
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:53 pm

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I am far from certain about some aspects. So there the questions :
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> to what extent is/was Mr Giuliani seen as a New Yorker ?
> how much is New York INSIDE the USA liked and/or DISliked ?
> are New Yorkers INSIDE the USA perceived as self-assuming ?
> are New Yorkers perceived as NY-centric ?
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and a question about Florida :
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Do the ANGLO-Floridans regard themselves as part of the US Deep South ?
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RE: Rudy Supporters, Time To Start Eating Crow

Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:54 pm



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 47):
Nope, as usual you have incorrectly read the post.

No I read it correctly. I know exactly what you are saying.
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