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The Official California Democratic Debate Analysis

Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:18 am

So watching the CNN/Politico California Democratic Debate, a few things are striking me:

This is probably the best Dem. Debate I have seen. They are not attacking each other, they are pointing out differences, and agreeing on a lot.

This is a great debate.

What are your thoughts?
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RE: The Official California Democratic Debate Analysis

Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:19 am

I personally thought this was a very good debate that stated their policies and strengths and not in fighting. I liked Hillary responses the most. I think he kind of got her on being against the war from day one but that alone won't win the nomination. I sure most of those Congressmen/woman look back in hind site and feel they should have voted differently.

I thought they both did a good job but my mind is made up on voting for Clinton.
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RE: The Official California Democratic Debate Analysis

Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:46 am

Well, I watched, and I left feeling even more confused about some of their positions. I wanted more concrete strategies and less "pie in the sky" --and the bashing on the wealthy was worn and cliched-- but overall I thought both gave a good impression. I still prefer Obama.
 
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RE: The Official California Democratic Debate Analysis

Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:59 am



Quoting 767Lover (Reply 2):
Well, I watched, and I left feeling even more confused about some of their positions. I wanted more concrete strategies and less "pie in the sky" --and the bashing on the wealthy was worn and cliched-- but overall I thought both gave a good impression. I still prefer Obama.

I'm afraid that's really all you're going to get from the Democratic candidates. They're going to avoid offering any real solutions...and stick to what's worked....what they don't like and don't want to do.

I like Obama better as well...mostly because I sense he's being open about his feelings. He doesn't seem to be a toe-dipper nor does he seem to have his finger in the air feeling for the wind. I think he's incredibly naive on foreign policy and he's way too far to the left.....but he seems honest. I'd rather have that than another era of Clintons in the White House.
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RE: The Official California Democratic Debate Analysis

Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:02 am

Whereas the code name for the President is "POTUS," if Mrs. Clinton is elected it will be "PIAPS."

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RE: The Official California Democratic Debate Analysis

Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:04 am



Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Thread starter):
They are not attacking each other, they are pointing out differences, and agreeing on a lot.

I think Hillary has awoken to the fact that just trying to run over Obama is not going to work. The coronation will have to wait a few more months. Their differences are so minor as to be almost meaningless. It will come down to whom do you trust more, and I think Hillary loses that decision.
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RE: The Official California Democratic Debate Analysis

Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:29 am

OMG!!!Did I hear it right? Ms.Clinton admitted that the fact the Democrats,via the Bill Clinton Administration, started the WMD hunt in Iraq and had to bomb Baghdad in 1998 to get Saddam to let the inspectors continue the search for them?
I thought ,the democrats and the media said, that the Republicans lied all along?

In the last debate,Obama and Clinton and gave the impression,pull out of Iraq would be immediate, as I remembered it.Now it's 12 months or questionable(Clinton) to 18 months(Obama)

But truth about WMD is finally confirmed.The media behavior of misleading and censorship should also be questioned.The American public deserves the truth! scratchchin 
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RE: The Official California Democratic Debate Analysis

Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:46 am

Obama and Clinton were coldly polite to each other due to the voter reactions from their campaign's bitter exchange of words in South Carolina's Democratic primary. I think Obama won tonight's Hollywood "love-a-thon" over Hillary. Let's get real for a moment, shall we? It's very obvious that the Clinton's and Obama really dislike each other - the mud-slinging that took place in South Carolina was only the beginning of their "dirty war"

Oh, and Obama's biting comment that Mitt Romney "hasn't got a good return on his investment during this campaign" was awesome.  laughing 
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RE: The Official California Democratic Debate Analysis

Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:18 pm

Obama is both naive on foreign policy and one-dimensional in his views of it, unlike flip-flopping, eggshell-walking Hillary. In purely semantic terms on those points, he's not so different from the lame duck currently sitting in the White House was when he first took the job. The fundamental difference between them, and the only thing I actually really like about Obama (as opposed to virtually nothing likeable about corrupt as sin Hillary), was that he readily admits he won't always be right, won't always have the answers for every policy, and won't surround himself with yes-men. He seemed very genuine when he expressed that he needs to have people around who will tell him "no, that's wrong.". And if anything, that is a step in the right direction.
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RE: The Official California Democratic Debate Analysis

Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:22 pm



Quoting PSA53 (Reply 6):
OMG!!!Did I hear it right? Ms.Clinton admitted that the fact the Democrats,via the Bill Clinton Administration, started the WMD hunt in Iraq and had to bomb Baghdad in 1998 to get Saddam to let the inspectors continue the search for them?
I thought ,the democrats and the media said, that the Republicans lied all along?



Quoting PSA53 (Reply 6):
But truth about WMD is finally confirmed.The media behavior of misleading and censorship should also be questioned.The American public deserves the truth! scratchchin

I've posted this before but nobody paid attention. If you replace the name Clinton with the name Bush it is almost eerie how similar their language is.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stori...998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html
 
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RE: The Official California Democratic Debate Analysis

Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:12 pm

I thought one of the best one lines from last night was something to the effect of:

"It took a Clinton to clean up after the first Bush and it might take another Clinton to clean up after the second Bush."

That was a great line

But I think it was pretty much a draw. Obama should of done more. He still seemed like he was trying to catch up. And Clinton looked the most comfortable I have seen her in a debate. Even in a draw, I think Clinton comes out ahead for the simple fact that she did what she had to do.
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RE: The Official California Democratic Debate Analysis

Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:49 pm



Quoting StasisLAX (Reply 7):
I think Obama won tonight's Hollywood "love-a-thon" over Hillary

I took in the same manner and tried to name all the stars present.CNN seem to be engage more at times in star gazing then the debate itself.

Quoting 767Lover (Reply 9):
Quoting PSA53 (Reply 6):
But truth about WMD is finally confirmed.The media behavior of misleading and censorship should also be questioned.The American public deserves the truth! scratchchin

I've posted this before but nobody paid attention. If you replace the name Clinton with the name Bush it is almost eerie how similar their language is.

Very true!.

But credit should go to where it deserves.Barack Obama.He is the only honest power broker at the DNC table.The Iraq cover-up would have worked if he didn't keep bringing the Clinton's true record on the matter.Obama said it was the Clinton's that started Iraq WMD issues.Not Bush.
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