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Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:40 pm

Check this out:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327466,00.html

I say remove all the fed money and see what they say.

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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:45 pm

Stupid.

The country that gives them the chance to make statements like this was built on the backs of U.S. Marines, and ll the other armed forces.
 
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:56 pm

REALLY stupid.

Quoting Sprout5199 (Thread starter):

I say remove all the fed money and see what they say.



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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:57 pm



Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 1):
Stupid.

The country that gives them the chance to make statements like this was built on the backs of U.S. Marines, and ll the other armed forces.

Very true and forever grateful; however

U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., says the City of Berkeley, Calif., no longer deserves federal money.

Since when did Berkeley become a concern for a Senator from South Carolina?
 
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:02 pm



Quoting AirCop (Reply 3):
Since when did Berkeley become a concern for a Senator from South Carolina?

Well since the Marines are a federal service, and while he is from S. Carolina, he is an American first.

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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:03 pm



Quoting AirCop (Reply 3):
Since when did Berkeley become a concern for a Senator from South Carolina?

As long as he's got the balls to say so, he' s OK in my book. Berkeley is one city I have no desire to ever go to. I like the bay area, but this city puts San Fran to shame. After all, Berkeley is the same city that banned the American Flag on their fire trucks shortly after 9/11 because of "security". Uh huh.
 
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:08 pm

The next time Berkeley suffers from an earthquake, fire or other California calamity, they will of course ask for help from the National Guard and other nearby military forces.

When that call comes and the troops hear where the emergency is, justice would be where the soldiers sit right back down to their card game and laugh themselves silly.

But of course they won't do that. Because they are better people than those Berkely idiots, and will put willingly put themselves in harm's way to help them.
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:10 pm

Here is a direct link to a roster of Berkeley City Council members, including the mayor. It includes e-mail addresses.

http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/citycouncil/general/councilroster.html

I e-mailed and told them each how appalled I was. I hope every single one of them who voted to kick them out gets voted out when they come up for re-election. Too bad they can't do a recall vote.
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:14 pm

Nothing in California surprises me anymore. This is laughable. Oh well at least codepink is happy.
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:19 pm

Dear AlQaida:

If you're looking for your next target in the US, may we suggest Berkeley. If they're not going to support us then we're not going to support them.

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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:19 pm



Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 1):
The country that gives them the chance to make statements like this was built on the backs of U.S. Marines, and ll the other armed forces.

Well the US was built on slavery too... I don't think history should be the determining factor. That said I think it's ridiculous that at a time like this, that they are pulling a stunt like this. What's the point of this action anyway? What are these morons trying to achieve?

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
When that call comes and the troops hear where the emergency is, justice would be where the soldiers sit right back down to their card game and laugh themselves silly.

So you want to punish innocent people for the stupidity of their local government? That approach has not really been wildly successful overseas (Iraq) what makes you think it's the right approach domestically?


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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:22 pm



Quoting YOWza (Reply 10):
Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
When that call comes and the troops hear where the emergency is, justice would be where the soldiers sit right back down to their card game and laugh themselves silly.

So you want to punish innocent people for the stupidity of their local government? That approach has not really been wildly successful overseas (Iraq) what makes you think it's the right approach domestically?

How come you didn't finish his quote?:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
When that call comes and the troops hear where the emergency is, justice would be where the soldiers sit right back down to their card game and laugh themselves silly.

But of course they won't do that. Because they are better people than those Berkely idiots, and will put willingly put themselves in harm's way to help them.

Just a question.

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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:34 pm

Bunch of SoCal fruitloop Tree-Hugging Nut Jobs . . .

Screw Berkeley, cut off the Federal $$$ . . . all of it.

That whole Southern California sliding into the Pacific thing comes back to mind . . .

Quoting YOWza (Reply 10):
So you want to punish innocent people for the stupidity of their local government? That approach has not really been wildly successful overseas (Iraq) what makes you think it's the right approach domestically?

It's be NICE if you'd quote the entire context of the statement instead of picking and choosing just to make a veiled (and failed) attempt at flamebait.

I agree, next time the earth shakes or there's a riot, screw Berkeley . . . and the rest of the damn bunny huggers . . . let 'em defend themselves . . . cause they'll be the FIRST ones screaming for help.

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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:38 pm

Berkeley isn't in So Cal and those of us from So Cal might find your idea offensive.
 
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:39 pm

When I first read the title of this thread, I assumed there was barracks in Berkeley or something and Marines were in the streets all the time causing a ruckus, but all this just because of a recruiting office??? What if somebody from Berkeley wants to join the Marines?
 
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:41 pm



Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 13):
Berkeley isn't in So Cal and those of us from So Cal might find your idea offensive.

Hell, it's close enough. Anything south of say . . . Marin County???

'Cept you and Superfly of course  wink 
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:46 pm



Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 13):
Berkeley isn't in So Cal and those of us from So Cal might find your idea offensive.

Damn straight  wink  .....Berkeley is and always has been a bunch of nuts and flakes.

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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:49 pm



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 8):
Nothing in California surprises me anymore.

 sarcastic  Like Berkeley speaks for California.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
Bunch of SoCal fruitloop Tree-Hugging Nut Jobs . . .

Come on Pep, I'm sure you have lots of Military contacts in SAN. This is a military town without question. Don't include us in with your "SoCal fruitloop Tree-Hugging Nut Jobs." (As been noted Berkeley is in Northern California. Don't offend us by including us with them  grumpy   Wink )

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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:57 pm



Quoting Sprout5199 (Reply 11):
Just a question.



Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):

It's be NICE if you'd quote the entire context of the statement instead of picking and choosing just to make a veiled (and failed) attempt at flamebait.

My point was that the federal gov is at least sensible enough to not do something so stupid so even entertaining the idea is totally out of the question. That's why only the first paragraph was relevant. If you read my entire post you would see that I'm squarely behind the US Federal Gov an military in this instance. No flaimbait of any kind.

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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:59 pm



Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 17):
This is a military town without question.

How do you explain the USS Iowa incident?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../archive/2005/08/24/cstillwell.DTL

And their own attempted ban on military recruiters?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...f=/c/a/2005/11/09/BAG9RFKD1C82.DTL
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:03 pm



Quoting Cfalk (Reply 19):

Dude I was talking about SAN not SFO  Wink.

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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:07 pm



Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 20):
Dude I was talking about SAN not SFO

Oops, my mistake. Sorry.
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:21 pm

You boys having fun?

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
Bunch of SoCal fruitloop Tree-Hugging Nut Jobs . . .

Screw Berkeley, cut off the Federal $$$ . . . all of it.

That whole Southern California sliding into the Pacific thing comes back to mind . . .

If you were not a friend, I'd would have a fields day ridiculing your lack of geography skills. Berkeley is northern California. We up here in northern California pride ourselves in NOT being anything like southern California.
Southern California, especially Orange and San Diego county is very conservative and out of step with the rest of the state.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
'Cept you and Superfly of course

Thanks for sparing me in your wish.

Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 17):
Come on Pep, I'm sure you have lots of Military contacts in SAN. This is a military town without question.

DavestanKSAN is right. San Diego is a military town.

Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 14):
What if somebody from Berkeley wants to join the Marines?

Just walk a few blocks south to Oakland to a recruiting office.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 19):
How do you explain the USS Iowa incident?

That was here in San Francisco.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 19):
And their own attempted ban on military recruiters?

That was here in San Francisco.



I don't understand why there was an office in Berkeley to begin with. I doubt they recruited hardly anyone given the social climate in Berkeley. To have an office there seems like government waste.
Finally, Senator Jim DeMint wouldn't like it of Barbara Boxer mettled in South Carolina issues so he should mind his own business as well. Senator Jim DeMint should more concerned about those who still can't read & write in his state and controlling the amount of his people with rickets.








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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:58 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
To have an office there seems like government waste.

Common sense apparently is not allowed in this discussion.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
they will of course ask for help from the National Guard

It's called the California National Guard, falls under the Governor..nice try..

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
I agree, next time the earth shakes or there's a riot, screw Berkeley

They always seem to call the California Highway Patrol first anyways.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
Screw Berkeley, cut off the Federal $$$ . . . all of it.

In the grand scheme of things, Berkeley proper gets little in Federal dollars as compare to its total budget.

Whatever happen to people tolerating individuals that have different opinions? I'm sure a good portion of the Berkeley residents aren't in favor of this. Why isn't anyone bashing Brattleboro, Vermont?
 
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:05 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
Just walk a few blocks south to Oakland to a recruiting office.

Precisely. It's not like Berkeley is prohibiting its residents from joining the armed forces or anything. They just don't want the military to be able to spread propaganda (and it is propaganda, whether or not you agree with its message) to convince people to join. I figure as long as Berkeley keeps paying its federal taxes (and let's face it, it does a lot more for our country than that, with its top-notch university cranking out thousands of highly qualified future workers), it's fulfilling its obligations to the federal government.
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:07 pm



Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
The next time Berkeley suffers from an earthquake, fire or other California calamity, they will of course ask for help from the National Guard and other nearby military forces.

When that call comes and the troops hear where the emergency is, justice would be where the soldiers sit right back down to their card game and laugh themselves silly.

But of course they won't do that. Because they are better people than those Berkely idiots, and will put willingly put themselves in harm's way to help them.

 checkmark   checkmark   checkmark 

Couldn't be said better.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
Hell, it's close enough. Anything south of say . . . Marin County???

Have you no regard for the Golden Gate Bridge?

It wouldn't look so nice or work that well being split in half like that... Smile




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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:25 pm



Quoting YOWza (Reply 10):
So you want to punish innocent people for the stupidity of their local government? That approach has not really been wildly successful overseas (Iraq) what makes you think it's the right approach domestically?

Cause it reflects on the entire town not to mention it's the people that put local government in place. As for the war it has been successful, you just refuse to accept it.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
That whole Southern California sliding into the Pacific thing comes back to mind . .

Hey how bout the whole state! I could deal with Laughlin being the Pacific coast! Nevada would so much nicer with a big body of water like that.

Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 17):
Like Berkeley speaks for California.

No but just another example in a long list of bonehead moves.
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:34 pm



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 26):
Cause it reflects on the entire town not to mention it's the people that put local government in place.

Well you're on your own there. Along with everybody else in this thread I've agreed that such action would be ridiculous and that the federal government and the military are above such an action. You clearly support it though, good for you.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 26):
As for the war it has been successful, you just refuse to accept it.

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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:35 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
That was here in San Francisco.

The worst part is I remember when most of San Fran/Oakland was pro military. Guess they are still mad about closing Alameda NAS.

Is Treasure Island still a navy base? Was cool to vist when I was stationed at Mare Island NS.

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Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:37 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
Southern California, especially Orange and San Diego county is very conservative and out of step with the rest of the state.

Thank goodness LoCal and the OC have something right  wink  (didn't you NoCal'ers produce Feinstein, Boxer, and Pelosi  vomit  ?! )

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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:44 pm



Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
When that call comes and the troops hear where the emergency is, justice would be where the soldiers sit right back down to their card game and laugh themselves silly.

That's your anger talking, Charles, nothing else. I think they're loons as well, but freedom is a bitch, isn't it? What the Marines should say, in taking the high road is "We don't agree with what htey're doing, but they're free to do as they please, and we're proud to provide the freedom that allows them to do it."

Quoting Queso (Reply 9):
If you're looking for your next target in the US, may we suggest Berkeley. If they're not going to support us then we're not going to support them.

And, in my mind, even saying such a thing is as traterous as you think the people in Berkeley are, Queso. The old "stoop to the level of the enemy" mentality. Sorry, but any American who would even say that in jest, Queso, isn't as great an American as he'd like to claim he is.

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Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:51 pm



Quoting Sprout5199 (Reply 28):
Is Treasure Island still a navy base?

Nope.
Those housing units over there are used for low-income housing now.

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 29):
(didn't you NoCal'ers produce Feinstein, Boxer, and Pelosi

Yep and very proud of it!  yes 

Did you LoCal'ers produce Randy Cunningham, Bob Dornan and Richard Nixon? Embarrassment

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 30):
And, in my mind, even saying such a thing is as traterous as you think the people in Berkeley are, Queso. The old "stoop to the level of the enemy" mentality. Sorry, but any American who would even say that in jest, Queso, isn't as great an American as he'd like to claim he is.

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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:55 pm



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 30):
And, in my mind, even saying such a thing is as traterous as you think the people in Berkeley are, Queso. The old "stoop to the level of the enemy" mentality. Sorry, but any American who would even say that in jest, Queso, isn't as great an American as he'd like to claim he is.

Exactly. Thats just low. Joking about terrorist attacks. Haha. Funny, Queso.
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:00 pm



Quoting YOWza (Reply 10):
Well the US was built on slavery too...

And during the war between the states to decide that very question, a helluva lot of folks in Canada sat on the sidelines and made a great deal of money off of human suffering, entertaining and supporting Confederates instead of taking a principled stand. That's what women of easy virtue do.

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Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:06 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 31):
Did you LoCal'ers produce Randy Cunningham, Bob Dornan and Richard Nixon?

.....and George Deukmejian and Ronald Reagan.

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Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:08 pm



Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 34):
.and George Deukmejian and Ronald Reagan.

The list gets worse an worse for LoCal.  Sad
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:12 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 31):
Those housing units over there are used for low-income housing now.

Low income housing? The views from there were great.

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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:19 pm

So all a county/city needs to do is to vote and tell the military to screw themselves ????  Wow!

Can you hear Bin Laden yelling "Have a taste of your own civil liberties, evil yanks!"  Silly



But seriously, in today's USA that's a lot of balls (and hatred bait)...would you say that's political suicide for those in the city council, or 'cos it's California they won't really care ?
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:23 pm



Quoting Sprout5199 (Reply 36):
Low income housing? The views from there were great.

Low income housing with great great views.  Smile
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:57 pm



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 33):
And during the war between the states to decide that very question, a helluva lot of folks in Canada sat on the sidelines and made a great deal of money off of human suffering, entertaining and supporting Confederates instead of taking a principled stand. That's what women of easy virtue do.

So stick your attitude where the sun don't shine.
You don't have a dog in this fight.

The purpose of my bringing up slavery was to make a point that history was not relevant in this case. I was in no way taking a pot shot, so why don't you relax champ.

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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:13 am



Quoting Sprout5199 (Reply 4):
and while he is from S. Carolina, he is an American first.

Oh really? You mean the same South Carolina that was the capital of the Confederacy?

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 8):
Nothing in California surprises me anymore. This is laughable.

We are waiting on the check refunding our money you are spending.

Signed,
California Tax Payers

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
Bunch of SoCal fruitloop Tree-Hugging Nut Jobs . . .

NorCal pal.  Wink

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 26):

No but just another example in a long list of bonehead moves.

Again, stop spending our money then.

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 29):
Feinstein

No liberal

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 34):

.....and George Deukmejian and Ronald Reagan.

Illinois, unfortunately, produced Ronnie Raygun. As far as Deukmejian, that moron was from New York.
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:31 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 40):
As far as Deukmejian, that moron was from New York.

Now he was a do-nothing governor. Funny about RR, who got his political start as President of a union..
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:33 am



Quoting AirCop (Reply 41):
If Northern California is such a bad place, as some of you suggest, why do people keep moving there?

Further, if us Californians know nothing about economics, how come we are supporting the rest of the country?
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:45 am



Quoting AirCop (Reply 41):
If Northern California is such a bad place, as some of you suggest, why do people keep moving there?

...and paying top-dollar for property here?
I don't see any foreclosures here like in the rest of the country.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 42):
Further, if us Californians know nothing about economics, how come we are supporting the rest of the country?

They're still waiting for some miracle promised at their super-sized mega Churches.
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:52 am



Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
If you were not a friend, I'd would have a fields day ridiculing your lack of geography skills. Berkeley is northern California. We up here in northern California pride ourselves in NOT being anything like southern California.
Southern California, especially Orange and San Diego county is very conservative and out of step with the rest of the state.

There are pockets of such lunacy all over the country! Yes, Southern California is pretty much known for that. Look at all the folks in Hollywood (movie stars, not necessarily any of the other average Joe citizens out there like most of us on here), they have almost no concept of what it means to be an American citizen anymore, look at Martin Sheen...

There are other really scary people as well: Senators Kennedy and Clinton, Michael Moore... Come to think of it, I wonder if Michael Moore had anything to do with that. He seems like the kind of piece of crap that would do something like that. Rosey O'Donnel is another scary one -- I believe she called our soldiers terrorists on national TV!
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:04 am

Wow I say cut all money going to them and see what they think about that. Or send them to Iraq I'm sure they'd love that.
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:27 am

This has turned into a military vs. non military debate. What really should be discussed is why Berkeley did it. Did the military try and aggressively recruit at schools or on the street? During the time when I was in High School in NY right across the river from West Point the army was kicked out of the school because they would heckle students into joining. They would get students contact information and call them until they agreed to join. Finally, an agreement was reached where each branch of the military was allowed to come once every 60 school days, and were only allowed to start a conversation if a student initiated it. They were not allowed to call more than twice unless requested.
We don't know all the factors that surrounded the decision.

Sending anyone to Iraq to show them what it is like is not going to solve anything. In fact, it would probably strengthen their cause as I would imagine most of Berkeley is anti-war and anti-violence. Telling people you are fighting for their freedoms and then cursing at them for expressing those freedoms is a bit paradoxical. I agree that these are difficult times, but lambasting every liberal politician is a bit naive. If you want to make people appreciate the tole of the war, write to the White House and request that they release footage of body bags being unloaded of planes, of wounded soldiers after they return from duty, of families that are destroyed by war-both American, Iraqi and Afgani. You want people to respect the war, don't put people in the war zone, that won't help. Show them the reality of what the cost of war is. Don't hide it for fear of ruining your political standing-or not getting re-elected. That is what is happening now.
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:32 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 30):
And, in my mind, even saying such a thing is as traterous as you think the people in Berkeley are, Queso. The old "stoop to the level of the enemy" mentality. Sorry, but any American who would even say that in jest, Queso, isn't as great an American as he'd like to claim he is.

Knowing you feel that way puts a warmness in my heart and lets me know I'm right on target with my thinking. God Bless the USA, with the exception of those idiots in Berkeley who hate The Corps.
 
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:40 am



Quoting AirCop (Reply 3):
Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 1):
Stupid.

The country that gives them the chance to make statements like this was built on the backs of U.S. Marines, and ll the other armed forces.

Very true and forever grateful; however

U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., says the City of Berkeley, Calif., no longer deserves federal money.

Since when did Berkeley become a concern for a Senator from South Carolina?

Any American can express his or her opinion about what happens in America.

Last time I checked, anyway.
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RE: Berkeley Votes To Kick Out Marines

Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:45 am



Quoting Halls120 (Reply 48):
Any American can express his or her opinion about what happens in America.

Last time I checked, anyway.

True, but the irony is that this is coming from a South Carolina conservative. A state in a region that is notorious for being hostile to those that criticize their dumb confederate flag and segregation laws in the past.
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