steeler83
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Popular Music Is DEAD...

Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:30 am

Anyone watching the Grammies?

I just saw that "Rehab" won the "prestigious" song-of-the-year award. REHAB?!!! What a joke! My girlfriend and I liked the song "Hey there, Delilah," and thought that song was way more deserving of the award than that piece of dreck of a song. Why is it that all of the good songs don't get the proper recognition that they deserve, while songs about going into rehab after drugs/violence, or just songs about drugs and violence, all of those win the awards?

Also, back in 2003, Eminem won a fricking Oscar for his [c]rap song from the movie "8 Mile." What is wrong here???

I declare popular music officially dead as of right now.

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RE: Popular Music Is DEAD...

Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:34 am



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
I declare popular music officially dead as of right now.

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Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:11 am



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
I declare popular music officially dead as of right now.

your thoughts or opinions?

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I am watching the grammies right now and thinking exactly what you said.
Just stick to the BRIT awards they are much better.
The fact that The Foo Fighters actually win an award is besides me. They sound the same as hmm: Creed, That Daughtry Guy, and all other shout rockers.

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RE: Popular Music Is DEAD...

Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:15 am



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
I just saw that "Rehab" won the "prestigious" song-of-the-year award.

Good lord, this is ridiculous.

What's next? "Sweet Escape" winning "best song ever devised"? Britney Spears winning "role model of the year"?

This is why I refuse to listen to (terrestrial-based) radio anymore. Too much crap.

Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
My girlfriend and I liked the song "Hey there, Delilah," and thought that song was way more deserving of the award than that piece of dreck of a song.

Hey there, Delilah was really depressing, but at least it was better than Amy Whine-Horse singing about refusing to go to Rehab.

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Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:32 am

The Grammys have been a farce since Jethro Tull won out Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance in 1989 over Metallica's "...And Justice For All" album.
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:44 am

Personally, I could care less what songs/albums win "awards." It won't change my opinion on what I like. I like what I like and no fruit case critic in Hollywood is going to change that.
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:21 am



Quoting WestJetForLife (Reply 3):
Delilah was really depressing, but at least it was better than Amy Whine-Horse singing about refusing to go to Rehab.

I don't think it was that depressing. To me, it's about hope -- two people may not be able to be together in person, but they are in spirit. I can kinda relate to that song tho. There were times when we were apart from one another. It may not have been years or thousands of miles apart, but several months being separated by 240 miles of rivers, plains, and mountains is significant enough...

I agree that it doesn't make Amy Whine-whoever's song any better. That's pretty much all the song was. It was awful! If I was Plain White T's, I would be insulted!

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 5):
I like what I like and no fruit case critic in Hollywood is going to change that.

I like what I like as well. Maybe this is why I tend to avoid this crap. I don't know why I decided to watch it. Maybe because the only decent song to come along this year was up for song-of-the-year, only to see it get beat out by utter garbage...
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:48 am



Quoting JetsGo (Reply 5):
Personally, I could care less what songs/albums win "awards." It won't change my opinion on what I like. I like what I like and no fruit case critic in Hollywood is going to change that.

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I loved (sarcasm) the speech by the head of the organization that gives out the Grammys. His points about how they are preposing legislation to Washington to change the requirements for song payments could have easily been translated to "we are spending millions of dollars on lobbying in Washington to have them listen to our interests."

I thought we were supposed to be minimizing the lobbyists, not having Washington descend into Tammany Hall V2.0 (If it hasn't already gotten there).

Just proves again that the awards show is just another way to make money, and not about the music. The Bafta awards were much less "commercial" in my opinion.


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Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:59 am

Define "popular music". There are a few songs that have come out in the past year that I have downloaded off of iTunes. Keyword there. My choices of music are popular with me. I kinda find it ironic that what I few as popular is popular with the g/f and the friends at work. Amazing isn't it? But for all the (c)rap and all this other shit out there, IF I'm listening to the radio and any of this chud music comes on...it take all but 0.2 seconds to reach up and change the channel.
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:34 am



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
I declare popular music officially dead as of right now.



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:12 pm



Quoting JetsGo (Reply 5):
Personally, I could care less what songs/albums win "awards." It won't change my opinion on what I like. I like what I like and no fruit case critic in Hollywood is going to change that.

Amen....I like what I like when I like it...it may not be popular with the majority, but I'm not listening to the majority...I'm listening to My preferences.....and I never listen to critics anyway...windbags.
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:00 pm



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
Anyone watching the Grammies?

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Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:47 pm

I've been around long enough to recognise music snobbery when I see it, and it's alive and well and living on a.net, from the "What are you listening to" threads to some of the posts in here.

"Popular music" is by definition popular, so there's nothing wrong with Amy Winehouse winning with her catchy tune. She's a great singer, is a breath of fresh air at the moment, and her stuff is what sells. Personally I think she's great, and "Back to Black" is one of the best records of 2007. As long as she manages to stay above ground she'll do well. She has all the ingredients to form a lasting career, unlike so many of the recent "cool" groups/singers who have vanished into thin air.

The Plain White T''s "Delilah" is a good song, but nothing earth-shattering. It's like 1,000,000 other tracks by any number rock groups at the moment. The music industry is layered with snobbery and as soon as the newest indie group starts to, heaven forbid, become popular, the seriously trendy crowd will move on to the next new unknowns.

It's always been like that in the music business, and, sad to say, always will.
 
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:04 pm



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
I declare popular music officially dead as of right now.

It's been dead for a long time.

I'll repeat what I said in the Winehouse thread. Sting once said "Music is it's own reward". So very true. Any music award ceremony is just a big love-in for those who feel they need to be congratulated by their peers to feel secure in what they do.
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:05 pm

Popular music, as defined by the traditional Record Company/Artist/Consumer relationship, is dying.
But Popular Music, enabled by the net in sites like MySpace, is in very rude health.

As to the awards, I don't take much notice, aside from the Mercury Prize in the UK usually around September, since that specifically has been about artistic merit, not sales.
Indeed, the very nomination for a prize, has lifted some sales from the low 1000's or less, to tens of 1000's or more.
Not that I always agree with the winners, take last years, The Klaxons , billed as innovative, I actually heard the album at a friend's at the weekend, my take was 'garage rock with a few bleeps'.
It was not bad, far from it.
I just thought Bat For Lashes (AKA one Natasha Khan) should have one last year, not really my thing musically but original, (plus I thought she is rather lovely!)

Then there was M-People winning in 1994.....grrrr!

However, each year, a lot of new artists get some press, which is the whole idea anyway.
 
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RE: Popular Music Is DEAD...

Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:09 pm



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
Popular Music Is DEAD...

It's merely changing. Popular music is nowadays that supercommercial crap that you hear on the radio, things like reggaeton (  vomit  ), boy bands, Justin Timberlake, etc.

Real popular music, the one you're referring to, has been dead since the turn of the century.
 
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:14 pm

Check out the charts from any 'golden age', then see how much shit was also there.
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:35 pm



Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 13):
It's been dead for a long time.

Every generation has said this about the state of current music... There's a lot of crap music out there and there are a lot of stupid people with no taste Silly The correlation is not coincidental.
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:23 am



Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 4):
The Grammys have been a farce since Jethro Tull won out Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance in 1989 over Metallica's "...And Justice For All" album.

The Grammy's were dead long before that... that just ran up the score.
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:02 am



Quoting GDB (Reply 16):
Check out the charts from any 'golden age', then see how much shit was also there.

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