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What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:44 pm

Ok, what is the worst car you have ever owned? Either mechanically or just down right ugly. I once had a brown Pinto station wagon when I was in collage. I got it so I didn't have to park one of my good cars in the ghetto. No one tried to steal it but a crack head once tried to jack me in it
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:48 pm



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Thread starter):
when I was in collage

You have to post a picture! I've never seen someone wearing collage!  Smile

My worst car was a 1986 Mazda 626 Sports Sedan.. what a joke, the thing wouldn't pull a boy scout off his sister and handled like the Love Boat.
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:19 pm

Not my car, but my mom had a 1997 Jaguar XJ6L. It was a beautiful car, its just too bad it was in the 'shop every 3 weeks.

Also, my dad had a 1990 Chevy S-10, and I remember that thing had constant problems with the electrical system and the transmission.
 
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:31 pm



We had something similar for about 15 months and managed to drive 18000km with it.
It burned out the heater (or fan) twice filling the whole car with lots of smoke.
It died all of a sudden (many times) down usually while driving on the freeway doing 120.
It had a blocked rear break (something broke off) while driving through town (only doing 50 or so) causing the car to go into a slip, luckily hitting nothing on its way.
Central lock and power windows worked only sporadically.
Used up 3 batteries in 1 year.
......


Never a Citroen again.
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:35 pm

1976 Capri, 2300 I-4,

POS had it's last day in 1987, after noticing THE rear end pinion seal leaking AND that both front ant-sway bar mounts were torn off due to FORD of Germany using the sway bar as a suspension piece to handle for-aft loads on the single pivot point lower control arm (What a Crapi design!). I called the salvage yard, they sent a tow-truck, I signed the title over and the POS was gone.
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:39 pm

tie. 2001 Mercedes Benz C-230 and a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee.

I had no less than 7 major warranty items with each of these two vehicles. Quality at Benz-Chrysler went to hell in the early '00s. The best think MB did was to separate itself from Chrysler.
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:41 pm

2.005 Renault Megane...no doubt about it...and no more Renault forever.
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:46 pm

1996 Fiat Brava 1.6 ELX. Thingy experienced a major oil leak while at 135 km/h on the highway and literally blew the engine in a plume of white smoke like in F1. Fortunately the insurance coughed up every penny (not hardaway).

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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:48 pm

My family had a 1993 Ford Taurus. I (or my dad for that matter) will never purchase a Ford vehicle. While I was too young to remember specifics, I do remember that the car was in the shop at least once a month it seemed.
 
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:50 pm

Probably one of these:



In some ways it was actually the best car too though, because although it was an absolute dog to drive, with a dreadful gearbox, appallingly flimsy switchgear, rotten engine and abysmal handling, it was also ludicrously cheap at the time I bought it (when starting up my business) and never, ever went wrong. Sure, the interior fell apart but absolutely nothing of any mechanical consequence ever went wrong with it.

So my worst is in some ways my best. Horrible car, but a real gem to own. Good enough to be flogged to a friend for whom it's run perfectly too.
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:00 pm

I couldn't really say I had a worst car. In reality (compared to the others) it was my first ever car - an old 1981 Ford Escort. But like Banco above, in many ways it was the best. It was my first car - it went all the way across Europe with me and i have some great memories of it.

Within my family though, there are a few I could note. The Renault 14, which in true late 70s fashion, would never ever want to start. Then there was the Morris Marina saloon that was harder to maneuver than the Ark Royal. Or the Citroen BX that I loved to drive, but once it started to go wrong......
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:01 pm

My parents first car was pretty bad, a poo brown Austin Allegro. They liked it as it had 'personality' i.e it decided when it was going to work and when it would break down (usually on the way to a holiday or with a load of my friends in it). Then there was my mum's Metro which turned into Basil Fawlty because it broke down so many times and finally their Citroen where the brakes failed on my dad as he drove up Highgate Hill.

Thankfully they've started being sensible and bought Nissans which while dull do actually work.
 
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:36 pm



Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 11):
My parents first car was pretty bad, a poo brown Austin Allegro.

Did it have the square steering wheel?
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:54 pm

I suppose my worst was my first car - a 1989 Vauxhall Nova 1.2 Merit. I loved it, but looking back it became a bit of a dog.

My dad's was probably his poo brown Morris Ital Estate in the early 80s when I was a nipper. It was probably as bad as a company car can get. It had orange seats inside if I remember rightly.
 
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:01 pm

My sister had a 1990 Renault Clio. She really hated it, so the most time, I had to take it.
Driving it was hard work, you had to pull hard on the steering wheel, step on the brakes like mad, the whole car was rattling like it would break down every minute..
The mirror on the right side was attached with Gatortape, because someone drove against it, and we found it the next morning, just hanging down, only attached on a wire.. But either my sister, nor I had enough money, to buy a new one.
And the mirror itself only had a scratch.
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:10 pm

1993 Fiat Tipo 1.6ie 16V... leather interior, power steering, air conditiong, heater, all sorts of little gadgets. Looked cool in its sky blue metallic coat and it worked quite well as a girl magnet but behind all that it was an utter piece of crap. I bought it used in 97 and suddenly I became a regular client of all major Fiat service garages in town: fuel gauge never worked properly, ignition engine had a mind of its own and the cooling system seemed to be designed for scandinavian weather - so I frequently got the "overheating alarm of death". Endless fun.
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:11 pm

1987 Audi 4000S
It became mine with 200k+ on it!

1995 BMW 325i
I never owned it technically but it was "mine" in the practical sense as it was an extra car in the family while I was in college.

1994 Honda Civic
Graciously handed to me by an aunt when I graduated college in 2004.

1999 Mazda MX-5 Miata
My first car purchase... soured by a GA dealer who tied his dealership up in bankruptcy red tape and fled to Iran. I got a decent deal (well, "selling price" anyway) on the car that was negated by legal bills to secure my title. I was one of about 30 people to take it in the shorts!

1998 Lexus ES300
I bought it to have basic transportation while dealing with the Mazda ordeal above. It's a great design execution but is ultimately no different than other smooth and bland Japanese sedans. It's even tan on tan. I jokingly refer to it as "soy based". It's similar in color and flavor!

2002 BMW 330Ci
I haven't had it long enough to bond yet but it's a great driving experience.

I didn't really have a "worst" car but the ES300 was probably my least favorite (although it has served me supurbly, it's not my cup of tea). I do find myself appreciating it as I get closer to getting rid of it.
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:12 pm



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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:23 pm



Quoting KROC (Reply 17):

Signed, Super80DFW

Those British cars can be a pain.  Smile
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:40 pm

My worst would be my first car, a 1998 Volvo V40 1,9 turbodiesel that had 10 000 kms on the odometer. It had 92 ponies under the hood and drove like a slug. Already at 70 km/h it was redlined and time to change into 3rd gear!!! It was however a pretty good first car in my opinion, except that the fuel consumption could be compared to a 10 year old 2 liter 4 cylinder engine. When I first got the car it topped off at 180 km/h with four people on board and 6 months and 40 000 kms later it topped off 160 km/h with only me onboard!!! I sold it after only having had it a few months as it was basically costing a fortune to replace all the defect parts.
 
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:48 pm

I won't count the $100 clunkers I drove while in and shortly after college.
Probably the worst was a 1978 Dodge Aspen 2 door coupe. Silver with red interior. I bought it used in June 1979 with 18,000 miles on it to replace my last $100 junker. I got rid of it about 3 years later with 48000 on it. Among it's problems:
Frozen brake caliper
Lower ball joints wore out
Never could get the carburetor to work right
Air Conditioner failed and was expensive to get fixed
Engine hood unlatched itself at 50+ MPH on a major road (my mom was a passenger when it happened)
Lousy gas mileage.
My next car, a 1981 Plymouth Horizon TC-3 (3 door hatch sporty model) also bought used. I liked the handling and fuel mileage, it's kinda sporty looks, but had it's own share of issues including:
Front and rear bumper trim that fell off
Terrible brakes. They seemed to be too light for this model, which had a 2.2 L engine, auto trans and a/c, but not the
brakes it should have and would be on turbo and next year's models. Went through pads like chewing gum, terrible
fading, definitely dangerous.
Another one to have it's a/c fail before I got rid of it.
The only real complaint of my next car, the first one I bought new was that it's a/c failed a year before i got rid of it.
 
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:45 pm

1990 Ford Taurus. I bought it used in 1996 from one of those corner car lots. They must have just bought the car, as the trunk was full of stuff, as was underneath the front seat (Why the car wasn't fully cleaned is beyond me). I spend $3600 on it and in the two and a half years I owned it, I spent closed to $2500 in repairs on it, half of it in the first year alone. Of all the things I had to have fixed on it, only one of them was something you expected to have to have to have replaced, and that was the brakes. I had to have some computer sensors replaced one time, I had to have a new water pump, timing chain, and timing chain cover another time, and at the time I traded it in, I kept having some of the "idiot lights" come on, but could never find a problems. I was actually shocked to get $1200 on it when I traded it in for the next bad car I had, a 1994 Nissan Sentra. I only had two mechanical issues with it, the starter and then some engine issues that were going to cost me more than the vehicle was worth. I ended up selling to the guy at the repair shop I took it to for a few hundred bucks (It was actually more than that, but the repair bill of what he had already done was factored in as well), as he was looking for a car for his daughter and he could do the repairs himself.

Since those two clunkers, I've only had two cars, one was a three year old car (1997 Chevy Lumina) with low miles and the other was a year old car with low miles (2003 Dodge Stratus, which is my current ride). The Chevy was a pretty decent car, the only mechanical problem I had was with the a/c condenser, which seemed to be a common issue. Everything else was typical wear and tear items (brakes, tires). When I got in a wreck with my Lumina, I was a bit sad because it had been a pretty decent car.
 
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:21 pm

I have had some really bad cars over the years, the worst was a 1986 Buick Park Avenue, we purchased it used from the local Buick dealer with about 30,000 miles, who told us it was a one owner car and taken in on a trade. When we got it, it still had some time left and mileage on the factory warranty. 2 months after the warranty date expired , but with only 34,000 miles the transmission failed. At first Buick said it was out of warranty, and that we were not the second owner but the third owner, but after I contacted the head of the zone office, Buick replaced the transmission with a factory overhauled one, which cost us only $100.

When I confronted the dealer about we being the third owner, they said it was a brass hat car, which is what the cars that Buick executives drive for a few months and Buick is not considered an owner. I then checked with Buick and they said no it was not a brass hat car, but privately owned and that we were the third owner.

In the 2 years we had the car it literally fell apart on us, interior pieces broke, the steering wheel cracked, moldings fell off, the gas line rusted, the A/C failed, the headliner fell down, to list some of the problems. At 58,000 miles the replacement transmission started failing and we decided to get rid of it.

We traded it in at the same dealer (should have learned my lesson the first time I did business with this dealer) on a 1992 Buick Roadmaster. Instead of going into detail about this POS Roadmaster, it was so bad that after 6 months and less than 5000 miles Buick took it back and replaced it with another identical Roadmaster free of charge. The replacement also had its share of problems and we dumped this second POS Roadmaster with about 58,000 miles on it.

Also I will not waste my time going into detail about all the problems we had with the 2 Buick Regales and the Chevy Malibu wagon that I also owned before the Park Avenue.
After all these problems with GM cars I swore then and there that I will never buy another GM product again.

Since then we have had nothing but Volvo’s, 2 leased and 2 owned and couldn’t be any happier.

And lets not start an anti Volvo argument here, Volvo’s are not for everyone.
 
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:44 am

My worst was a 1990 Chevrolet Cavalier Z24 that I purchased used in 1998. I only had it for 6 months before it completely died on me during a roadtrip to the Okanagan. It spent more of that 6 months in the shop than in my driveway.

Purchased with only 100,000 km on it... by 110,000 km it had the following problems:
- Transmission failed within a few days of the purchase.
- Engine computer module fried... twice... (the 2nd time at 3:00am in the middle of nowhere in northern BC).
- Engine mounts
- Fuel pump

Driving down highway 97 south of Vernon BC at normal speed, it threw a connecting rod and completely destroyed the engine. I dumped it at a 'corner lot' on trade for a 1988 Mustang 5.0L coupe... which was a far nicer ride.

Funny... I would buy a 1999 Cavalier for a commuter car about 5 years later and it was excellent, I would buy another too.
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:11 am

Since, I've only had two cars (both very reliable), I'll tell about my families two worst cars:

1997 Saab 9000 CSE Turbo- Electrical gremlins, was in the shop every four-five months.
2000 Volvo S80 T6 - More electrical gremlins, even worse than the Saab. The state of Georgia's Lemon Law sucks, and my parents were unable to dump the car until they traded it in.

Needless to say, the economy of Sweden will not be not be getting my more of family's money.
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:45 am

1970 Fiat 850 Spider- A gorgeous and surprisingly comfy little car, it's design seemed to be fine but the execution of that design (cheap materials) ruined it. It had a radiator which couldn't survive prolonged contact with water and/or coolant and a clutch fork that broke clean in two right at the pivot point. Also, being a convertible, it refused to run properly unless it was pouring down rain outside.

1968 Mercury Montego convertible- It ran and drove great, but it was a monumental rustbucket. It was so rusty that even the metal patches welded on to cover the rust holes had themselves rusted. The guy I sold it to bought it for it's engine and transmission...a good thing, as it broke in half while turning onto his rather steep driveway shortly after he bought it.

1969 Lincoln Continental sedan- It went like a rocket in a straight line, but the slightest hint of a curve in the road would cause it to heel over like a schooner under full sail. It had a truly ginormous trunk, but wasn't particularly roomy inside the passenger compartment. I had a 1971 Mercury Marquis sedan at the same time I had this Lincoln, and the Marquis was a quantum improvement over the Continental in every way.
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:58 am



Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 8):



Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 8):

Hands down it would be my old 1993 Ford Taurus, the biggest piece of crap on 4 wheels. I found out real quick that Ford stood for Found On Road Dead and Fix Or Repair Daily! Never again will I own a Ford!
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:34 am

Cadillac XLR;
owned it from may 2006 to february 2007.

-overheated 3 times
-engine vibration/knock on startup, GM could not fix it...
-propellor shaft broke down
-bad brakes
-navigation system failed and was replaced
-terrible handling

so I sold it when the warranty was about to expire...
Fantastic looking car though!

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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:36 am

I've been lucky - so far no lemons in this household.

However, my parents weren't so lucky. They purchased a SAAB 900 Turbo in 1983 in the UK and dragged it to Australia (as migrants, we could, thereby circumventing the extortionate import duties).

A litany of problems developed:
-pinging in the engine under load
-battery located right next to the turbocharger. Probably the hottest part of the engine bay, separated by a thin metal shield. Replaced battery every two years.
-exhaust manifold cracked at 80,000km. Had to be replaced since they could not weld it. Also had to replace the turbo charger. Twice.
-Cooling channel in the alloy head breached into the combustion chamber (due to corrosion). Car did not drive so well after that and smoked like a Stanley Steamer!
-Appetite for Michelin TRX metric tyres, the daftest invention of the tyre industry.
-Sometimes, the starter would not work properly, caused by the heat from the exhaust pipe passing beneath the key hole (which in true SAAB fashion is located between the seats).
-Cabin heater valve broke. Had order one in - took eight longs months and one winter (admittedly mild in BNE).
-blacked out window surrounds became shiny chrome because they did not taketoo kindly to the Australian sun.

Finally got rid of it with 220k on the clock. Good Riddance. Want a SAAB? Buy a Vectra!

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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:48 am



Quoting SWISSER (Reply 27):
Cadillac XLR;

Damn, I looked at one with my dad and it was between that and a SL550. He decided on the SL because Cadillac has had a bad reputation with their "special cars" IE Allante. It is an awesome looking car though. Did you have any problem with the roof leaking?
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:12 am

My 2002 Mazda 626 LX was a complete nightmare from the onset. The car was bought used in 2004 with 47K miles. Within 2 months, the alternator and battery fried themselves. Then the front right brake caliper froze due to an anti-lock brake system failure. Replaced the anti-lock control module and new front rotors and brakes since brakes were not covered under the 12 month/12K warranty. The air conditioning started to fail (a major issue since I lived in Arizona at the time) and a new compressor was installed under warranty. Then, the transmission started doing strange things, like shifting itself from drive into neutral on the highway. The automatic transmission (a CD4E model built by Mazda's parent company, Ford) needed to be rebuilt at 61K miles. 11 months later at 70K miles, the transmission problems reoccurred, leaving me stranded on Interstate 10 outside of Quartzite, Arizona at 2am. The Mazda was patched back together, then quickly traded in. It was replaced by a 2004 Volkswagen Jetta GLS a few days later.

After doing research on the internet, I discovered that this particular Ford-built transmission (CD4E) has a chronic repair/failure history because the transmission cooling system is completely inadequate. This design defect causes most CD4E transmissions that were used in Ford Contours, Ford Probes, Mercury Cougars, Mercury Mystiques, Mazda MX-6, and (unfortunately) Mazda 626 to commit suicide before 60K. Because it's a design flaw, a rebuilt tranny will simply fail again due to overheating within 15K to 20K miles of the rebuild! Mazda refused to stand behind their product even though a technical service bulletin had been issued by Ford regarding the transmission for Ford products, not Mazda products. Buyer beware!

2002 Mazda 626 LX


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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:11 pm

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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:58 pm



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 29):
Did you have any problem with the roof leaking?

The roof was excellent on mine, and off course it does not rain much in the gulf!
although on my first picture in the post you can see a silver XLR in the garage area behind mine with a serious roof problem! I heard roof issue's where common as well...
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:24 pm



Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 31):
Yours graciously,
Jenson Button

I'll take the money he gets for driving that POS.

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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:51 pm

I had one of these as my first car. Almost new when I bought it really cheap. I soon found out why it was so cheap. The term 'Ford POS ' was intended for this car.



Mine had the 4-banger and 4-speed manual transmission, and I ragged that car so badly in high school that by the time I sold it, the engine was on its last gasp, generating not more than 20-25 horses, even with only 50,000 miles on it.
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:01 am

When I started Ambiance Limousine in the early eighties, we started with Cadillac Sedan DeVilles (5 of them) then added five Oldsmobile 88s, three Lincoln Town Cars, three Lincoln stretch limousines and a GMC 15 passenger van, and all was right with the world. Then we bought two Mercedes Benz 450 SEL brand new sedans and found out what the name of real trouble was. Either one of these junkers gave me more trouble than all ten GM cars put together. One transmission failed before it got to 10K miles, and about every 8-9k after that. We suspected the frame was misaligned or twisted but MB denied it, and blamed us for not knowing how to drive the car, even though the other Benz trans was ok, and all the US cars never had any trans issues. The major problem with the second Benz was that the right rear foot well filled with water when the car was driven in the rain and could not be repaired. Again, MB said it was our fault, as they could not find any leaks when they took it through their car was machine. After the threat of a major lawsuit, MB took the two clunkers back and gave us original purchase price back.

Obviously, I'll NEVER buy another MB product, for business or personal use.
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RE: What Is Your Worst Car You Have Owned?

Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:47 pm

VW Rabbit. I used to sit in a plastic bin bag with 2 holes for my feet to avoid getting wet. Fuel guage was faulty so the needle would go up but not down again. I thought the fuel consuption was amazing... right up until I was walking with the jerry can in my hand.

Most recent surprise in the crap ratings was a Merc ML320 I had for 6 months. Too many plastic parts. The rear light cluster bolts were metal, and the brackets were plastic. Both broke when I had to change a bulb. Ended up using bathroom silicone to glue it back in place.
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