airfoilsguy
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My Employees May Go On Strike

Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:12 pm

The old contract was up on Sunday. The new contract was put up to a vote on the same day, it failed 2 to 1. A contract extension was voted on an passed for one week. Currently the two parties are worlds apart and agreement looks slim. The union is the Steelworkers and they can get rather ugly during strikes.
I am in management and it looks like I might be rolling up my selves and getting dirty next Monday. Anyone here ever go through a strike? Any good stories?
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allstarflyer
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RE: My Employees May Go On Strike

Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:32 pm



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Thread starter):
Anyone here ever go through a strike?

My dad did working for freight, but I haven't come too close working in the airlines. I'm glad, too, because, even though I'm in a union, I think unions are largely a farce. Having said that, among the workers who would go on strike, I'm guessing there's some who are deadbeats who run and cry to the union when the soda machine changes from Coke to Pepsi products - point being is that unions have plenty of deadbeats in their ranks, management knows it and that's often a roadblock in getting issues resolved. I've known it to be the case in several companies (mainly, again, in freight and aviation). Management is too often bound to keep the deadbeats around because of the unions. I'm also going on a limb here by saying if you could fire the deadbeats, your negotiations would go a lot smoother.
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RE: My Employees May Go On Strike

Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:51 pm



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Thread starter):
Currently the two parties are worlds apart and agreement looks slim.

What are the issues? Has the union offered to continue to work under the old contract, until the new one is ratified?

Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 1):
point being is that unions have plenty of deadbeats in their ranks, management knows it

Just as many deadbeats, ass kissers in management as in ranks of the workers.
 
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RE: My Employees May Go On Strike

Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:55 pm



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Thread starter):
Anyone here ever go through a strike?

I didn't, but my dad did. And while having him live at the refinery for three months nonstop was not pleasant, boy, was the bonus check he got appreciated. We added on a room to the house, I got my own bedroom.  Smile
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SNCNtry32
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RE: My Employees May Go On Strike

Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:14 pm



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Thread starter):
The union is the Steelworkers and they can get rather ugly during strikes.

I am too a Steelworker
Unity and Strength for Workers

I think we are the only f/a group represented by them too...
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airfoilsguy
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RE: My Employees May Go On Strike

Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:27 pm



Quoting AirCop (Reply 2):
What are the issues?

A new 3 tier pay system

Management option for a forced over time 2 times a month

Lower incentive pay for new workers

Quoting AirCop (Reply 2):
Has the union offered to continue to work under the old contract

Yes, until this Sunday then there is a new vote for an extension
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RE: My Employees May Go On Strike

Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:05 am

Best of luck to you! I was on strike when I was lifeguarding (who knew lifeguards could be in unions?), however, it was a part time job and I didn't care to be part of the union in the first place so I just crossed the picket line everyday and made my money.

There was an effort to unionize my work last summer by some rogue employees, thankfully however cooler heads prevailed and we didn't join the union.
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RE: My Employees May Go On Strike

Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:32 am



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 5):
A new 3 tier pay system

How much are you willing to pay scabs?
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AirCop
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RE: My Employees May Go On Strike

Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:48 am



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 5):
A new 3 tier pay system

Management option for a forced over time 2 times a month

Lower incentive pay for new workers

Personally, I don't blame the workers here, looks like someone is getting the shaft, and it isn't management. Disclaimer: of course I have no idea on the P&L of the company or even what industry this is.
 
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RE: My Employees May Go On Strike

Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:57 am



Quoting Confuscius (Reply 7):
How much are you willing to pay scabs?

Not up to me

Quoting AirCop (Reply 8):
Personally, I don't blame the workers here,

Neither do I really but a middle road has to be met.
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RE: My Employees May Go On Strike

Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:58 pm



Quoting Confuscius (Reply 7):
How much are you willing to pay scabs?

Nothing.
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RE: My Employees May Go On Strike

Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:07 pm



Quoting Confuscius (Reply 7):
How much are you willing to pay scabs?

When Eastern Air Lines went on strike, a scab is not a position you wanted to be in. Scab cars in the lot were mortared with light bulbs filled with stripper, their personal tools were "lost" by sympathetic managers, a well documented case of a scab's airplane being blown up, and the list goes on and on. After Eastern finally went tits up, if you had it on your resume or put it on your employment application, you were in for harassment; your roll-away could end up in a canal, a bucket ofblue water from the honey bucket tossed on you, etc, etc, etc.

I have no love for the unions, but the working man shouldn't be taken advantage of either.
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RE: My Employees May Go On Strike

Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:46 pm

Some union strikes can get pretty violent. Back some time ago, an associate of mine was considering hiring on with a steel mill's rail operation as a scab. They were told that if the strike occurred and they were told to report for work, that they would possibly be locked in for up to 30 days. Back in the '70s, a strike on the Florida East Coast Railway ended up with train wrecking and federal prison sentences for those involved-two railroad bridges were dynamited as trains were crossing them.
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RE: My Employees May Go On Strike

Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:40 am

Im a controller who wouldnt be working if it wasnt for the strike in 1981. Thank you Reagan and thank you PATCO!!!!! I love my job  Smile

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RE: My Employees May Go On Strike

Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:02 am

Funny how some unions seems to stir up trouble just for the sake of it, and just why oh why is it that the union leaders are the last to be paid and the last to shut the lights off once they've done their best to have all their members fired/laid off? Think about it!

Btw, b4 you all go flaming me...i was a union member and no i don't bear a grudge....i just despise these idiots that believe the 'union leaders' when they say they'll be better off on strike for more money/benefits, it rarely happens without those 'valuable' members losing their jobs. Be bloody thankful for a job in the first place! Otherwise move over and let someone who really needs a job have yours and not complain.
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airfoilsguy
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RE: My Employees May Go On Strike

Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:52 am



Quoting SkySurfer (Reply 14):
when they say they'll be better off on strike for more money/benefits

That was true in the past

Quoting SkySurfer (Reply 14):
Be bloody thankful for a job in the first place! Otherwise move over and let someone who really needs a job have yours and not complain.

This is the truth today. There are a billion people in China waiting for your company to go out of business
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