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Obama - First Hawaiian-born President

Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:25 pm

If Barack Obama's elected he'll be the first president not born on mainland U.S. This still applies to Article 2 of the
Consitution and Obama just qualifies...barely. He was born in 1961 just 2 years after Hawaii became a state.
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RE: Obama - First Hawaiian-born President

Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:28 pm



Quoting Bmacleod (Thread starter):
This still applies to Article 2 of the
Consitution and Obama just qualifies...barely. He was born in 1961 just 2 years after Hawaii became a state.

What do you mean barely? Hawa'i has been part of the United States since 1898.

Quoting Bmacleod (Thread starter):
If Barack Obama's elected he'll be the first president not born on mainland U.S.

The same would be true if John McCain were elected.
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RE: Obama - First Hawaiian-born President

Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:55 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 1):

What do you mean barely? Hawa'i has been part of the United States since 1898.

It was annexed in 1898, made a territory in 1900 and gained statehood in 1959.

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RE: Obama - First Hawaiian-born President

Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:56 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 1):
Hawa'i has been part of the United States since 1898.

Hawaii was annexed by the USA in 1898, but was not admitted to the Union until 1959.
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RE: Obama - First Hawaiian-born President

Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:57 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 1):


Quoting Bmacleod (Thread starter):
This still applies to Article 2 of the
Consitution and Obama just qualifies...barely. He was born in 1961 just 2 years after Hawaii became a state.

What do you mean barely? Hawa'i has been part of the United States since 1898.

Read STATE
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RE: Obama - First Hawaiian-born President

Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:01 pm



Quoting WrenchBender (Reply 2):

It was annexed in 1898, made a territory in 1900 and gained statehood in 1959.



Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 3):

Hawaii was annexed by the USA in 1898, but was not admitted to the Union until 1959.

I am well aware of when Hawai'i gained statehood. That has nothing to do with its status as being part of the United States for the purposes of Article 2.
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RE: Obama - First Hawaiian-born President

Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:37 pm



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 4):

Read STATE

The First Line of the qualifications clause:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States

It doesn't say born in a specific state, it says a Citizen of the United States. By birthright, Puerto Ricans are citizens of the United States, despite not being born specifically in a state.
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RE: Obama - First Hawaiian-born President

Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:44 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
The First Line of the qualifications clause:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States

It doesn't say born in a specific state, it says a Citizen of the United States. By birthright, Puerto Ricans are citizens of the United States, despite not being born specifically in a state.

Exactly.

And a great example is McCain... he was born in the Panama Canal Zone... at the time a U.S. Territory.
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RE: Obama - First Hawaiian-born President

Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:01 pm

Regardless of what was admitted when, Obama and McCain are eligible to be POTUS. Seems like straw grasping for the hell of it.
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RE: Obama - First Hawaiian-born President

Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:03 pm

Not that I agree with him on much, but I went to the same high school as Obama, Punahou School.

I honestly never thought anyone from Hawai'i would ever be President in my lifetime, but I guess I never considered someone who left to go to college, never came back and got into politics in a larger state, Illinois in this case.

It might be cool if Sen. Obama set up his "Western White House" in Hawai'i.  Smile One can dream. One thing is for sure though....He'd visit us more than any other President (his family still lives here).

AND, just to allay the fears of the original poster....my Grandparents were born in Hawai'i in 1918 and 1924 and were born US citizens, as were my parents (born 1948 and 1951). The more interesting situation is with McCain since he was born on a US Military base in Panama, though a law passed by Congress in 1790 makes him elligible. I'm pretty its all a non-issue buts its always interesting to learn a little more about our Constitution.

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