Blackbird
Topic Author
Posts: 3384
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 1999 10:48 am

Tell Me This Technology Won't Be Used For...

Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:37 am

Tell me this technology won't be used eventually for domestic surveillance purposes...

It's a DARPA Project called "Combat Zones That See", which is claimed to be able to maintain total surveillance over a combat-zone to protect american troops. As part of DARPA's requirements, it is to be done with off-the-shelf electronic equipment and such. Of course one doesn't have to read far into either of these links to realize that this technology could easily be used for the purpose of domestic-surveillance that almost anybody would call Orwellian.

To make it worse, much of the technology already exists (cameras in major cities and such). This is not ficticious, sadly, in any way -- this is real. Even defense-experts have stated that they felt the technology had a purpose more suited to domestic-surveillance and law-enforcement than defending battlefields...

SOURCES
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0328,shachtman,45399,1.html (Big Brother Gets a Brain)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Zones_That_See (Combat Zones That See)
 
aa61hvy
Posts: 13021
Joined: Fri Nov 05, 1999 9:21 am

RE: Tell Me This Technology Won't Be Used For...

Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:40 am

.....They're watching.........


Andrea, give me a hit of whatever you're having....
Go big or go home
 
User avatar
Dreadnought
Posts: 10201
Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:31 pm

RE: Tell Me This Technology Won't Be Used For...

Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:43 am



Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter):
Tell me this technology won't be used eventually for domestic surveillance purposes...

I hope so. Look at London's surveilance system. While such systems don't have a good record of detering crime, they often make it much easier to catch suspects.
Democrats haven't been this angry since we took away their slaves.
 
Newark777
Posts: 8284
Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:23 am

RE: Tell Me This Technology Won't Be Used For...

Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:43 am

They're probably watching you now because you started this thread.  Wink
Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
 
luv2fly
Posts: 11056
Joined: Tue May 13, 2003 2:57 am

RE: Tell Me This Technology Won't Be Used For...

Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:53 am



Quoting Newark777 (Reply 3):
They're probably watching you now because you started this thread.

Please be watching and grab the coats and throw away the key.
You can cut the irony with a knife
 
lobster
Posts: 653
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:03 pm

RE: Tell Me This Technology Won't Be Used For...

Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:45 am

 
fr8mech
Posts: 6852
Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:00 am

RE: Tell Me This Technology Won't Be Used For...

Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:44 am

So tell me Andrea, should we stop developing surveillance tools and technology because they can be used in domestic situations for which there is no warrant? By that logic phone tapping technology should have never been developed. How about cameras? Recorders? Satellites? Binoculars? Telescopes? ETC.

Please. Stop being paranoid. Just because a technology exists, doesn't mean it's being used for nefarious purposes. There are adequate checks and balances in place to discourage casual, illegal usage and sanctions for those caught using them illegally.

And for the record, I believe the program that the administration is using is perfectly legal. This is a war. Once we all, the civilized world, understands that, the sooner the enemy can be shut down.
When seconds count...the police are minutes away.
 
ShyFlyer
Posts: 4698
Joined: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:38 pm

RE: Tell Me This Technology Won't Be Used For...

Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:38 pm

Hmmm.....


I knew I felt a disturbance in the force.
I lift things up and put them down.
 
Queso
Posts: 3109
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:28 pm

RE: Tell Me This Technology Won't Be Used For...

Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:10 pm

I am contemplating having radical cosmetic plastic surgery. My picture has been taken numerous times over many years and is doubtlessly in uncountable numbers of databases around the world. When this new imaging technology is mated to facial recognition technology it will be an easy matter for the government to bastardize it and track my every movement.

After I have had my surgery, I will not allow my face to be photographed unless I have applied special effects makeup or applied adornments such as shaped eyeglasses or jaw inserts. When I go out in public (and around my house when my webcam is on) I will wear special effects makeup in random patterns so that they will not be able to put together a pattern of my movements.

We cannot allow the government to pattern us and control our lives with the information they are attempting to gather.
 
Blackbird
Topic Author
Posts: 3384
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 1999 10:48 am

RE: Tell Me This Technology Won't Be Used For...

Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:43 am



Quote:
And for the record, I believe the program that the administration is using is perfectly legal. This is a war. Once we all, the civilized world, understands that, the sooner the enemy can be shut down.

At what cost? At the cost of eroding every last aspect of privacy and freedom us American's possess? You realize that if the government is allowed to reach the point where it can freely spy on the public without warrant, can disregard our civil-liberties as it sees fit, it will become more dangerous than the terrorists it's supposed to protect us from?

Ever read about Josef Stalin and the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany? They didn't have the technology to literally track every single human that moved in a city even. And they caused immense suffering and misery.

It's a lose/lose situation unless we figure out a way to defeat the enemy without trampling over everybody's rights.


Andrea Kent
 
CaptOveur
Posts: 6064
Joined: Thu May 06, 2004 3:13 am

RE: Tell Me This Technology Won't Be Used For...

Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:55 am



Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 7):
I knew I felt a disturbance in the force.

I thought I felt one, then I farted and I felt better.

Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter):
Tell me this technology won't be used eventually for domestic surveillance purposes...

It wont be used for domestic surveillance purposes.

OK thread complete, lock this bitch

Seriously Blackbird, do you think the government has nothing better to do than watch you?
Things were better when it was two guys in a dorm room.
 
NWA742
Posts: 4505
Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2002 11:35 am

RE: Tell Me This Technology Won't Be Used For...

Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:11 am







-NWA742
Some people are like slinkies - not good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: bigfoot0503, N14AZ, N659AA and 2 guests

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos