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Canada Extends Afghan Mission To 2011

Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:59 am

Commons votes to extend Afghan mission to 2011
Mike Blanchfield, with files from Jill St. Marseille, Canwest News Service
Published: Friday, March 14, 2008

OTTAWA -- As a chorus of protest rang out from Parliament's public galleries, the House of Commons voted overwhelmingly Thursday night to extend Canada's military mission in Afghanistan to 2011.

Though the result was never in doubt, the outburst of more than two dozen anti-war protesters chanting, "End it, don't extend it," from the public galleries added a poignant dramatic twist as they were peacefully escorted out by security guards.

Both the minority Conservative government and the Liberal opposition heralded the vote as a historic compromise that set aside partisan politics and advanced Canada's international interest, as they easily passed the motion by a 197-77 margin.

From:
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/s...bf4-496f-a365-2efe16ea328b&k=84700

More at:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...afghanvote14/BNStory/National/home
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/346019
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Thoughts? Good move/bad move?
 
Klaus
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RE: Canada Extends Afghan Mission To 2011

Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:06 am

The extension itself is most probably realistic.

The question, however, is whether the strategy currently employed in Afghanistan should just be extended without change (which this decision was not about). That is the salient point in this matter.
 
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RE: Canada Extends Afghan Mission To 2011

Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:08 am

I think it's a good move. Hopefully by 2011 Afghanistan will be stable enough to run and police itself. I have no problem with Canada searching for Al Qaida in Afghanistan. I have some friends who've been over, they're proud of their work, and I think the country needs to back them 100%.

I don't think the Liberals would have supported the motion had they been ready to have an election anytime soon, but I'm glad with the overall result anyway. Other NATO countries do need to step up though and make the same type of commitment in my mind.
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RE: Canada Extends Afghan Mission To 2011

Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:56 am

It was a good move. We need to finish what we started. I have full confidence in the men and women of the CF, and they think that the mission can be completed successfully.
Though the NATO officials need to sit down and have another heart to heart about the current strategy. They should also agree on a rotation of forces in out of the high risk provinces.
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RE: Canada Extends Afghan Mission To 2011

Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:07 am

I think it's a decent compromise by the Conservatives and Liberals. Of course the Bloc and the NDP didn't agree, but that's to be expected. I do hope though that our troops focus on rebuilding the country to get it on its feet when it's time for us to leave, rather than go on an Al-Qaida witch hunt.
 
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RE: Canada Extends Afghan Mission To 2011

Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:31 am



Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 4):
rather than go on an Al-Qaida witch hunt.

It's not a witch hunt when they're shooting at you.

Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 4):
Of course the Bloc and the NDP didn't agree, but that's to be expected.

Do they ever agree with the Liberals or Conservatives? They're so used to saying "Nay" I'm starting to think their horses.
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RE: Canada Extends Afghan Mission To 2011

Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:32 pm



Quoting Klaus (Reply 1):
The question, however, is whether the strategy currently employed in Afghanistan should just be extended without change (which this decision was not about). That is the salient point in this matter.

Part of the compromise in Canada was that the strategy had to reflect diplomacy and development, not only combat. That said, it is hard to build roads and schools when they will be blown up the next day.

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 2):
I think it's a good move.



Quoting TheCol (Reply 3):
It was a good move.

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Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 2):
Hopefully by 2011 Afghanistan will be stable enough to run and police itself.

Fingers crossed. Hopefully, between now and then, we will be hearing stories about responsibility for certain things being handed over to the Afghan National Army.

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 2):
I don't think the Liberals would have supported the motion had they been ready to have an election anytime soon, but I'm glad with the overall result anyway.

I'm not so sure about that. I think both parties recognized the importance of the issue and tried their damndest to work with one another, be statesmen like, and find an acceptable compromise that would suit both sides. Additionally, I think both parties recognized the disastrous consequences that having an election over Afghanistan could result in, for both the country/national unity and the mission.

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 2):
Other NATO countries do need to step up though and make the same type of commitment in my mind.

Agreed. The caveats need to be lifted and the heavy burden needs to be shared.

Quoting TheCol (Reply 3):
We need to finish what we started.

 checkmark  Our internationl reputation and the fate of the Afghan people are on the line.

Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 4):
I do hope though that our troops focus on rebuilding the country to get it on its feet when it's time for us to leave

Agreed. But as I stated before, development can only occur where there is security.

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