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Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:30 pm

And, the rsults are the same that we hear far, far too many times.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/15608043/detail.html

I don't understand parents being so wrapped up in everything else that they forget their kids. And change of routine is not an excuse, as seems to be the "cause" of many of these incidents.

But, again, I would not charge the man with anything. He's going to have to live with his wrapped-up mind and what it cost him for the rest of his life. That is punishment enough.

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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:39 pm

You'd think someone could invent some kind of seperation alarm. One bit on the kid (or his seat), the other on the parent. Whenever they are seperated by more than 15 meters, the thing goes off. For those 'gormless over-tired parent' moments. Could be good for toddlers wandering off in malls, too.

This is really sad, and it is easy to blame the parent (after all, who else do you blame) but everyone is human and screws up. Just not usually this badly.
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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:56 pm



Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
I don't understand parents being so wrapped up in everything else that they forget their kids.

Nor do I . . . they need to have the rest of the kids they have removed from the house.

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
And change of routine is not an excuse,

If anything, it should be cause to be more vigilant . . . I don't get it.

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
You'd think someone could invent some kind of seperation alarm.

Already been invented - it's called "good parenting". Too bad some folks don't know how to use it.
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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:00 pm



Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Already been invented - it's called "good parenting". Too bad some folks don't know how to use it.

Yes yes, all very well. But who of us (apart from me, obviously) is perfect ? Unless the parent in this particular episode was a drunk or a druggie, although the fault still lies with him, there may be reasons why it happened. Possibly, just possibly, he'd had 30 minutes sleep the night before and screwed up.
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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:02 pm



Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
I don't understand parents being so wrapped up in everything else that they forget their kids.

They clearly never should have had kids in the first place. I bet they'd never forget their cell phone though.
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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:05 pm



Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 3):
But who of us (apart from me, obviously) is perfect ?

There are things that parents can be given a pass for missing . . . leaving your kid in a car ain't one of 'em.
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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backsea

Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:06 pm

Hey doesn´t this happen quite often. I mean I have heard of quite a few of these cases.
 
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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:09 pm



Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
I don't understand parents being so wrapped up in everything else that they forget their kids. And change of routine is not an excuse, as seems to be the "cause" of many of these incidents.

You're absolutely right, I literally cannot imagine how someone could forget that another person- let alone their own child- is in a car when they leave it.

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
But, again, I would not charge the man with anything. He's going to have to live with his wrapped-up mind and what it cost him for the rest of his life. That is punishment enough.

Well, I still think he should be charged. I'd hate to think it happens, but I often wonder how many of these cases are situations of "retroactive abortion".

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 3):
But who of us (apart from me, obviously) is perfect ?

This is a human being we're talking about, that is fragile and depends on it's parents for everything. It can't just be chalked up to "imperfection" when a child's life is at stake.
 
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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:24 pm



Quoting Queso (Reply 7):
This is a human being we're talking about, that is fragile and depends on it's parents for everything. It can't just be chalked up to "imperfection" when a child's life is at stake.



Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 5):
There are things that parents can be given a pass for missing . . . leaving your kid in a car ain't one of 'em.

Both valid points, and no doubt the parent in question will torture himself with the knowledge of this for the rest of his life. Us scoring points off his mistake is not helpful nor will it correct a tragic situation.
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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:17 pm

A terrible situation all around. I never understand why they try to prosecute the parents with murder charges though. In this case they are not, but I've seen some prosecutors go for Murder 1. What does that do? It helps no one.
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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:22 pm



Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 8):
Us scoring points off his mistake is not helpful nor will it correct a tragic situation.

The aim should not be to score points off of his mistake. But if you can use this guy's story to make other parents aware that yes, it could happen to them while they're not thinking, and perhaps reduce the possibility of this happening again, that would be a smart move in my book.

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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:35 pm

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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:44 pm

I absolutely cannot understand how some mothers and fathers can get so wrapped up in other things and forget their kids. But I saw a program about it and they brought up an interesting point. It seems this problem really began to surface when laws required that you have your child in the back seat in a car seat. I realize the idea behind kids in the backseat for safety and of course with airbags in the front have been known to kill children as well although usually the pax airbag can be deactivated in most cars. I have wondered to myself at the numerous times this has happened if the kids statistically would have been better off in the front seat where that scatterbrained parent can at least get a visual on the kid and remember that he/she is in the car.
 
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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:30 am

I can see it happening and it scares the hell out of me. Jail is not the answer.
 
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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:29 am



Quoting Eaa3 (Reply 6):
Hey doesn´t this happen quite often. I mean I have heard of quite a few of these cases.

This happened 2 or 3 times last summer here in Phoenix.
 
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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:33 am



Quoting Stratosphere (Reply 12):
It seems this problem really began to surface when laws required that you have your child in the back seat in a car seat.

Yea, I don't recall this happening back when kids were in front seats...it also has occurred when parent is doing something out of normal routine, and is in such a habit of, let's say, dropping off one kid only and they have the second one along that day.
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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:05 pm



Quoting Stratosphere (Reply 12):
It seems this problem really began to surface when laws required that you have your child in the back seat in a car seat.

I somewhat agree, but I last summer I witnessed both parents forget their daugher on the aircraft after arriving in a foreign country. If I remember right the flight attendants had to tell us what was going on about three times before it sunk in...


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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:39 pm

I posted about this last summer when something like this happened in my college town and the mother was not charged. The mother forgot to drop her kid off at day care, went to work with kid in car, and opened her car that afternoon to dead baby. Suprise! How dense can these people actually be? An accident is running your interior car light while you are at work and your battery goes dead, or forgetting to wake your child up in time for school. I'll say what I said then:

Throw 'em in jail for ten years.

Seriously, this happens way too often, and it sets a horrific example to the one or two parents who want their small children dead. It sets an extremely dangerous precident that if people are allowed to simply claim "accident" when this happens, you are letting murderous parents go free. Of course, many of these are just very bad "accidents" and the parents will feel guilty their entire life. If I run over a child in a crosswalk because I am not paying attention, their will be hell to pay. Sure, I never had the intent to kill the child, but I sure as heck will spending some time in prison.

End this nonsense of not charging the parents with negilegent manslaughter.
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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:15 pm

It is sad that anyone can have kids and they do. Yet it is stricter to adopt a pet from the local humane society. Though in all honesty what do you expect when you have people like Britney who lost her kids and is out partying ever night. Now call me crazy if I lost my kids I would be living the life of a nun until I got them back.
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RE: Another Parent Forgets The Baby In The Backseat

Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:21 pm



Quoting Mir (Reply 10):
The aim should not be to score points off of his mistake. But if you can use this guy's story to make other parents aware that yes, it could happen to them while they're not thinking, and perhaps reduce the possibility of this happening again, that would be a smart move in my book.

Unfortunately it's only March here in Houston and this is only the first real warm couple of days we've had. You can bet you'll read about this same exact story happening about 5-6 more times before October right here in Houston. Never could understand it. Your first job as a parent of an infant or toddler is to always know where they are. This guy not only left the kid in the car, but evidently didn't even notice his mistake when he got back into the car that afternoon and you just know the car had to stink. Jail won't do anything for this guy, he'll have enough nightmares and sleepless nights for the rest of his life and he deserves everyone of them.
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