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Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:51 pm

I just don't understand the fascination and, in some cases, the obsession, some people have with Hollywood celebrities. Brangelia is the best example. Brittany Spears; Jen Anniston; anyone that is high-profile.

Why the obsession by some people? Maybe I'm outta touch, but I just don't get it.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:55 pm

Falcon,
It's probably because the rags to richest story, plus the distraction from our own problems. It's easier to laugh at these people than it is to face our own problems...

However, I do think alot of us secretly fantasize about the rich and the famous lifestyle, hence the popularity of American Idol and others.

I agree with you: These guys are pure products of the marketing spin machine. Most of them, say Lindsay Lohan have no talent, but give them some makeup artists, a few Disney movies, and cut a record, clothing line, and voila, you're latest celebrity sensation.

When I see people like Paris Hilton calling herself a "business woman" I want to vomit.

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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:02 pm



Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
Why the obsession by some people? Maybe I'm outta touch, but I just don't get it.

I think a lot of it is just the media TELLING us we care.....
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:05 pm



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 2):
I think a lot of it is just the media TELLING us we care.....

They don't make us by the tabloids and magazines, however. People do that all on their own.

Sv7887, I know what you mean about the "lifestyle of the rich and famous", but when I think of winning the Lottery, I don't thnk of Hollywood to be honest. I'd take a Jen Anniston or Sandra Bullock mind you, but it's not something I think about all that often when daydreaming about finding the big $$$.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:13 pm

I have to agree with the fascination certain people receive? Though I guess some people must care or the magazines like people and such would no longer be in business.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:17 pm

Here is another question? Why the obsession with sports figures. People like Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, Jeremy Shockey, Wayne Gretzky, etc.? It is because all of these people are in the consciousness of the public as a whole because of the universal appeal and media coverage of their profession.

Actually, it goes even deeper. Why do people gossip about others? Because people have a fundamental need to understand, and perhaps even control each other, which is why those that they see on a constant basis they become obsessed with.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:40 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):

Here is another question? Why the obsession with sports figures. People like Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, Jeremy Shockey, Wayne Gretzky, etc.? It is because all of these people are in the consciousness of the public as a whole because of the universal appeal and media coverage of their profession.

Well,when I was a kid,Mays,Koufax,Drysdale(53) and the fearsome foursome were my hero's.I guess it carries over to adults of current contemporaries.

I never been a stargazer on celebrities.It just amazing to me of all the tabloids and magazines about celebrities that have you ask the question.Is it a mental breakaway to relieve stress or are people that lonely?

And also look at the European paparazzi.Those folks are crazy.But there's big bucks to be had.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:45 pm

People get obsessed with the nobodies on the likes of Big Brother and the mundane gossip about them fills magazines and "news"papers. Because it's on tv it somehow makes it more important than a bunch of anonymous idiots doing the same in a local bar.

People shout at and even attack actors and actresses when they're off duty from making soaps because they don't like "them" and what "they're" doing..... and can't distinguish between reality and the cocoon generated by the one eyed monster in the corner of the room.

It's the easy imagery of thinking you're sharing someone's life and the fantasies of what they get up to, but without the 2 way emotional and physical connection.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:57 pm

I LOVE trashy gossip magazines and websites.

I started loving them after 9/11. The news was so awful around that time that I no longer wanted to read much serious stuff. Gossip was shallow and fun - it was mind candy. It was like sitting down and eating bonbons. I still love the mindlessness of trashy gossip. It's fun to see what the "celebs" are wearing and doing. You get interested in them as people, too. I have a subscription to British Hello! and even though most of the people in there have very little relevance in the States I am always interested in reading what's going on with them.

It's mindless. It's relaxing. It's pointless. And it's so much fun.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:47 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 3):
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 2):
I think a lot of it is just the media TELLING us we care.....

They don't make us by the tabloids and magazines, however. People do that all on their own.

When CNN claims that this celebrity's stupid actions (such as a DUI when you have enough money to be driven and not drive ever) warrant breaking news over the death of a soldier or child they are prepurating the problem that we have to be fascinated by them.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):
Here is another question? Why the obsession with sports figures. People like Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, Jeremy Shockey, Wayne Gretzky, etc.? It is because all of these people are in the consciousness of the public as a whole because of the universal appeal and media coverage of their profession.

They are celebrities too but the only difference is they play sports and the others look good errr sing or act (Falcon I believe you listen to Jim Rome so you should get the joke).
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:05 am

I don't care about celebrities much at all. I think the media simply focuses on them because it helps create a good diversion from what's really going on in the world.

If I recall correctly, in 1984, there was a term called Prolefeed, which essentially was news to feed to the public to distract them from what the government's doing, usually about salacious sex-scandals, and stuff of the like.

Essentially our modern news has transformed into a real-life equivalent of Prolefeed.


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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:09 am



Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 9):
When CNN claims that this celebrity's stupid actions (such as a DUI when you have enough money to be driven and not drive ever) warrant breaking news over the death of a soldier or child they are prepurating the problem that we have to be fascinated by them.

Exactly. Hell, local news can spend as much time talking about celebrity gossip than they do on a big local story. The local news has turned into a segment of "Entertainment Tonight".
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:11 am



Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 9):
When CNN claims that this celebrity's stupid actions (such as a DUI when you have enough money to be driven and not drive ever) warrant breaking news over the death of a soldier or child they are prepurating the problem that we have to be fascinated by them.

CNN is just giving their people what they want.

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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:34 am

The rampant celebrity obsession, particularly in the US is a sad, harmful thing, and is quite a degenerative condition as far as society is concerned.

And the reason it becomes such a virus is that the media eventually convinces the, (less intelligent) public that the lifestyle of certain celebrities is something to idolise and be jealous of, and in many cases, obsess over.

The unfortunate thing is that in many cases, the people most susceptable to this phenomenon are the people most liable to be harmed by it, (ie with low self esteem, etc). Look at the values the press focus on in the celebrity culture.

This is an industry that sexualised a teenager, gave them no coaching or support in dealing with the problem, took their share of the money and then left them to deal with their issues, casually blaming their, "trailer park" upbringing as they rush to dissassociate themselves from the train wreck. And now society gets even hungrier and more disgusting, secretly hoping for the sensational tragedy when Britney finally knocks herself off. And when that happens, there will no doubt be people shake their head and blame her for having all the money in the world and she wasn't able to sort her head out.....talk about trivialising this problem.

I hope there is a shift in society that takes us in another direction, as the potential impact is huge. I feel quite certain that most 14 year olds will be more likely to have seen the Paris Hilton sex tape than to have read a piece of classic literature, or have an understanding of ow they can help the children in East Africa

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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:38 am



Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 13):
The rampant celebrity obsession, particularly in the US is a sad, harmful thing, and is quite a degenerative condition as far as society is concerned.

it's quite often worse overseas than it is in the U.S.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:40 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
I just don't understand the fascination and, in some cases, the obsession, some people have with Hollywood celebrities. Brangelia is the best example. Brittany Spears; Jen Anniston; anyone that is high-profile.

Why the obsession by some people? Maybe I'm outta touch, but I just don't get it.

Preaching to the choir. My girlfriend and sister love this shit. I cannot stand it. I've met celebs and it's cool to be like yeah I've met them and have a story but beyond that is lame. I hate how ESPN talks about A-Rod's divorce and Madonna and shit or Tony Romo and Jessica Simpson. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THEM. I care about the athletes and how the perform on the field.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:45 am



Quoting STLGph (Reply 14):
it's quite often worse overseas than it is in the U.S.

I don't think so. The intensity of obsession is sometimes matched in other places, but only in the US, (as far as I have seen), does it become do pervasive that it drowns out everything else. Celebrity culture becomes so dominant that real events get so little consideration, and in some cases none at all. Some other celebrity obsessed places, (France, UK, Spain, Hong Kong, Australia), still have a bit of balance.
 
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:37 am



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 2):
I think a lot of it is just the media TELLING us we care.....

 checkmark  or the media telling us we should care. My thing is when celebrities start caring about me and my life, I'll return the favor.

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 8):
And it's so much fun.

Got to love train wrecks. Makes your feel better about yourself.

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 9):
CNN claims



Quoting STLGph (Reply 12):
CNN is just giving their people what they want.

Or telling you what they think you should know.

If news agencies like CNN didn't report it, they wouldn't have much to report (that and celebrities would have to do something else to preoccupy themselves). It is all filler. Personally, I don't read the tabloid rags (that and I don't know who half of the people are anyway  old  ) or watch the tabloid trash on the tube.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:25 am

Beats the shit out of me. Its for fat female office workers and housewives who have time to devote to that crap.

Truthfully, I give TMZ a look if I'm bored. Not because I give a crap what the worthless messes in Hollywood are actually doing, I just enjoy watching them mess up their lives. Drug addiction! Quack religions! Booze! False superiority! All of it entertaining and I wouldn't care if any of them died tomorrow.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:36 am

Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 16):
I don't think so. The intensity of obsession is sometimes matched in other places


EDIT: I will let Jacko speak for himself



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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:32 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
Why the obsession by some people? Maybe I'm outta touch, but I just don't get it.

You're not the only one. I don't get it (and frankly I don't care to, either). I'd wager that the idiot box (aka TV) is highly responsible for the promotion of "stars". I'm too busy having a real life.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:45 am

Its not only hollywood celebrities but in fact any celebrity from the Film Industry anywhere in the world that known.
Guess people get attracted by their screen image & looks.

I always wondered why too  Smile because back in their home they are just ordinary people.

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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:55 pm

It's a guiltless pleasure--and takes your mind off all sorts of stuff. I suppose, like all things, in excess it could be damaging (how, I don't know).

I've typically found those that condemn and protest about it the loudest tend to be the worst offenders----closet E! and TMZ watchers.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:02 pm



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 17):
Or telling you what they think you should know.

If news agencies like CNN didn't report it, they wouldn't have much to report (that and celebrities would have to do something else to preoccupy themselves). It is all filler. Personally, I don't read the tabloid rags (that and I don't know who half of the people are anyway ) or watch the tabloid trash on the tube.

too bad that's not the case.

as i said earlier, CNN, along with everyone else, is just giving their people what they want.

Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 16):
I don't think so. The intensity of obsession is sometimes matched in other places, but only in the US, (as far as I have seen), does it become do pervasive that it drowns out everything else.

you think that.

but ... Australia's love for Kylie Minogue. Germany's love for David Hasselhoff. etc. etc.
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:05 pm

I just don't understand the fascination and, in some cases, the obsession, some people have with civilian airplanes. A380 is the best example. People even fight about how it looks! Come on! It's just a thing used to get from A to B. B747-8; 787; any model that is fairly common is discussed endlessly.

Why the obsession by some people? Maybe I'm outta touch, but I just don't get it.
 
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:12 pm

I don't care at all about the celebrity hype myself.

Having said that, if someone enjoys reading the trash sheets, more power too them (so long as it's not personally destructive).

I don't become disheartened until I run into the type that knows every hand bag that Madonna owns but can't point out half the countries in Europe when given a blank map.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:22 pm



Quoting Blackbird (Reply 10):
I don't care about celebrities much at all. I think the media simply focuses on them because it helps create a good diversion from what's really going on in the world.

Then why are those sections of the media that shove all this celebrity stuff in our faces often the very same sections of the media that enjoy sensationalising and often misrepresenting "what's really going on in the world"? I'm going to have to say a big  no  to that theory.

The media focuses on celebrity because it sells - no other reason. As to why it sells, well, that's effectively the question Falcon84 is asking, of course.
 
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:15 pm

I think these sh*t storms about "celebrities" has only gotten worse in recent years, most notably during the Anna Nicole Smith death. It was on every channel, any given time of the day, and IMO had coverage that could rival some post-9/11 stuff. It was at that point that I was seriously considering dumping TV for good.
 
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:53 pm



Quoting David L (Reply 26):
Quoting Blackbird (Reply 10):
I don't care about celebrities much at all. I think the media simply focuses on them because it helps create a good diversion from what's really going on in the world.

Then why are those sections of the media that shove all this celebrity stuff in our faces often the very same sections of the media that enjoy sensationalising and often misrepresenting "what's really going on in the world"? I'm going to have to say a big to that theory.

This is a little off thread,but worthy to note of possibility of misrepresentation....

The main concern I have, is with shows like Comedy Centrals,"The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report" ride a very fine line of political tabloid presentation satire that gains very notable,prominent guests such as McCain and Obama themselves.It does even out in equal air time to both candidates,Stewart(Daily Show) very pro and even bais Obama stance and Colberts(Report) conservative views, have a new huge young audence that otherwise wouldn't look at CNN,FOX,NBC,etc,etc....

True.Stewarts and Colberts shows are comedy formats,but they also undertake hardcore issues that can be misleading in their sensational and sometimes overkill views.
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:39 pm



Quoting PSA53 (Reply 28):

OK... but I'm not sure what that has to do with what I said. I see no evidence at all that a section of the media is able to hide "what's really going on in the world" from all of us by bombarding us with stories about celebrities. Anyone who only gets their information on "what's really going on in the world" from "tabloid" TV shows and tabloid newspapers can only blame themselves, not "the media". Good information about "what's really going on in the world" is out there for all to see.
 
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:05 pm



Quoting David L (Reply 29):
Anyone who only gets their information on "what's really going on in the world" from "tabloid" TV shows and tabloid newspapers can only blame themselves, not "the media". Good information about "what's really going on in the world" is out there for all to see.

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Agree.

But what is concerning is when politicians,in a election year,appear on these tabloid shows and makes the shows look creditable or the "last word".Sadly,what you say is true Some do rely on them and do no further research.But they have something else which makes them concerning.

They can cast a vote.

But yes,it's a little unrelated to the thread.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:38 pm

Count me as one who does not get it too.
I do understand that it is not so new, people obsessed over the great films stars of old, but note 'great'.
Not many of today's, (there are greats of today, but they are the ones who put in the work, not pretend they are of significance by going out with no knickers on, hoping a photographer will catch a glimpse of their twat while exiting a limo).

The prevalence of the ghastly reality TV is the real change.
Just a bunch of low self esteem thickos mostly.
Ironically, this has aided the 'rise' (as in shit floats), of celeb/heiress brats like that rat faced Hilton trollop, (enough to make me momentarily re-consider Marxism).

I have to agree too, that it is largely a female thing, (not that GDB's better half is one them, couldn't stand it if she was).

But in some areas it is not so gender specific, we in the UK saw it 11 years ago, not that many were quite sure then, often not now either, what it really was.
That death of an ex Princess and the reaction to it.
'It's so un-British' many said, then and now.
Well it was, I don't know anyone who were in those crowds, I do know of several who went to have a look at the sheer oddness of it all, not to 'mourn'.

Now I think we may have an explanation, which the market success of 'celeb' mags and TV has illustrated.
Many of them, not the curious, not the tourists, felt guilty.
A deep guilt, not on the surface, but almost sub-concious.
They were the ones who brought the mags, the tabloids, watched the celeb TV, they fed the paparazzi who were in part responsible for the car wreck.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:41 am



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 2):
I think a lot of it is just the media TELLING us we care.....

Here is my theory:

It is easier and cheaper for the major media to have reporters in Los Angeles and New York rather than shipping reporters, crews and equipment all over the world. Therefore, the media makes a big to-do about who Jennifer Love Felicity is dating because it is close to their home.

Also, I think there have been so many scandals and the media thinks Americans can not follow what goes on in government, they think we are better off being spoon-fed the juicy divorce details between Britney and K-Fed. But, when a gay scandal does come up inside the Beltway (no pun intended), they are all over it.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:48 am



Quoting PSA53 (Reply 28):

The main concern I have, is with shows like Comedy Centrals,"The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report" ride a very fine line of political tabloid presentation satire that gains very notable,prominent guests such as McCain and Obama themselves.It does even out in equal air time to both candidates,Stewart(Daily Show) very pro and even bais Obama stance and Colberts(Report) conservative views, have a new huge young audence that otherwise wouldn't look at CNN,FOX,NBC,etc,etc....

The Daily Show mocks the obvious stupidity of how the big three US news networks report their news and some of the outrageous nonsense these personalities say, the point of it is to mock them. Jon Stewart may lean left in his views but he makes fun of both sides of the aisle, its comedy and he will talk about an issue with a guest and make jokes with them. The fact that the mainstream media actually wants Stewart and Colbert is because of the fact that they can actually get the politicians that won't go on these left vs right shows.

Now Colbert's show mocks the loudmouth tv/radio pundit mainly O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Lou Dobbs etc. and is pure sarcasm.

Now anyone who takes either of these shows as legitamate news and not comedy seriously needs to question their intellect.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:05 am



Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 33):
Now anyone who takes either of these shows as legitamate news and not comedy seriously needs to question their intellect.

Actually, I have seen more hard news on those two shows than I have on any other network. The fact that those in the political arena are more at ease and act more "human" on these shows makes me more interested in these shows.
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Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:40 am



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 34):
Actually, I have seen more hard news on those two shows than I have on any other network. The fact that those in the political arena are more at ease and act more "human" on these shows makes me more interested in these shows.

There is so much validity to that statement that is saddening, in that comedy central is able to on some occasions give more actual news than three 24 hour networks combined.
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RE: Why Do People Care About Hollywood Celebs?

Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:56 am

I believe its schadenfreude, which is

Quoting dictionary.com:
satisfaction or pleasure felt at someone else's misfortune.

. People seem enjoy seeing the downfall of others who have been put on a pedestal, then be knocked off of it by going crazy, to jail, rehab or all of the above on Oprah, Tyra or the rest of the televised world. Somehow, I believe that this society has become so hooked on this that the networks go to where the market wants them to; celebs and their spectacular falls.
*However that is just my  twocents , and as with all opinions have no real academic backing and I intend it to be taken at the value of a slightly educated opinion and nothing else.*

Falcon84 I have pondered this question for a very long time, and the only thing I can come up with was the aforementioned. I even had a chance to ask a Colombia Journalism Professor and Dean, Sandy Padwe, the very same question you pose on airliners.net (albeit a month earlier than the post Smile ) and between him, and the three other speakers, could come to no one definitive answer. It flummoxes me, this question, and it is one that may never be answered.
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