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F1 2008, Budapest

Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:10 am

Ladies and Gents,

It starts to get interesting now, and we can also see emotions running high now and then in our threads. Not a bad thing as we all have our team/driver that we want to see on top of the podium, but it's still important to see the facts, which is that Mclaren/Hamilton has the upper hand right now.
Kova ended the Spanish test on top, and I wish he could start to stir things up for the frontrunners to spice things up even more. He does after all has the right tools to do it.

This season could well be desided in Brazil as well.
Will BMW be able to fight back? Nick has been showing some great drives lately as well.
We have for sure not seen the last of Ferrari, and they will for sure do everything to climb the hill they are facing at the moment.

As Budapest is not that much about speed, but more a technical track, we can probably all agree that it will suit Mclaren best, or have Ferrari been able to sort out their issues during past testing?  Smile

So bring it on, I say!  Wink

Track data;

Budapest
Race Date: 03 Aug 2008
Number of Laps: 70
Circuit Length: 4.381 km
Race Distance: 306.663 km
Lap Record: 1:19.071 - M Schumacher (2004)

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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:26 am



Lap of the track..

Hopefully Ferrari can have a good race result here, but doesnt this track more suit the Mclarens?

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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:40 am

Another exciting race coming up. To those who think I only like Hamilton, it is not quite true. I would love to see Nakajima win... but I don't want to bring my hopes up too high on this one! My other favourite driver has a lot more chances I think!

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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:48 am



Quoting Sudden (Thread starter):
we can probably all agree that it will suit Mclaren best



Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 1):
but doesnt this track more suit the Mclarens?

I believe McLaren will be very strong at the Hungaroring (and indeed in Valencia two weeks later). IMHO, Hamilton will be the man to beat this weekend. Ferrari need to up their game considerably based on the performances in the last two races.

I've been disappointed with Kovalainen's performances of late. I appreciate he seemed to suffer more than his fair share of bad luck early in the season, but just a single podium compared to 4 wins for his team-mate suggests he's not currently delivering. If McLaren is to compete for the Constructors' title, he needs to start contributing some solid results.
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=43482
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:16 am



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 3):
and indeed in Valencia two weeks later

A little information about Valencia - I must admit, I didn't realise it was a street circuit!
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=43489

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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:29 am



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 3):
I've been disappointed with Kovalainen's performances of late.

He's produced reasonable qualifying results, but his race pace is severely lacking compared to that of Hamilton. He's really got to finish where he started at worst.
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:45 pm



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 5):
He's produced reasonable qualifying results, but his race pace is severely lacking compared to that of Hamilton. He's really got to finish where he started at worst.

And in addition to that, he really needs to get some form on in the races if Lewis Hamilton is to stand any chance of winning the title as he can't do all of it by himself, especially in the last few races where every point and finishing position counts! Good qualifying results (thus bumping rivals like Kimi down one place etc) count for nothing unless he can defend them from overtaking in order for them to proceed to pounce on Lewis.
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:45 pm

Well Guys..looks like its another F1 weekend.

A bit of the news..

the Ferrari F2008 will be the next car to use the Shark Fin concept ( eww! )

and

Heikki is confirmed for 2009 at McLaren ( I am glad )

As far as I understand Hungary is a McLaren circuit, and I am Hoping for a 3rd straight LH win...

Does anyone know if McLaren is going to use the Nose Horns?....

Anyway...Cheers!
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:24 pm



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 7):
Heikki is confirmed for 2009 at McLaren

Indeed he is: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7534925.stm
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:50 pm

I'm going to go against the trend here and predict that Massa will actually take pole and the win. He's always been fairly quick at this track (not last year after a botched qualifying, though), and after a recent test, he seemed unusually confident that the car would be well suited to this track.
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:44 am

Forza Ferrari!!! Two wins for Lewis are enough in row, so lets keep the championship open!

The first training session ended in a Ferrari 1-2, Massa ahead of Raikonnen.

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 9):
I'm going to go against the trend here and predict that Massa will actually take pole and the win.

I hope so too, and the beginning isn´t bad.
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:02 pm

McLaren fight back in second practice! Running with their new "antlers" (which they didn't in first parctice), McLaren turn the tables on Ferrari. For most of the session McLaren were 1 & 2 until a very late Piquet run split them.

1. HAMILTON McLaren 1m20.554s
2. PIQUET Renault 1m20.748s
3. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m20.760s
4. ALONSO Renault 1m20.928s
5. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m21.009s
6. MASSA Ferrari 1m21.010s
7. HEIDFELD BMW 1m21.138s
8. KUBICA BMW 1m21.363s
9. TRULLI Toyota 1m21.505s
10. ROSBERG Williams 1m21.581s
11. GLOCK Toyota 1m21.662s
12. WEBBER Red Bull 1m21.733s
13. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m21.837s
14. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m21.902s
15. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m21.955s
16. BUTTON Honda 1m22.150s
17. FISICHELLA Force India 1m22.197s
18. SUTIL Force India 1m22.358s
19. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m22.448s
20. VETTEL Toro Rosso 1m22.945s
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:05 pm

Has Piquet found the confidence to run up front after he lucked into a podium in the last race? Guess we'll see tomorrow! I'm hoping Ferrari were holding back a little bit today and that the results tomorrow will look more like today's first practice session  Smile
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:36 pm



Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 9):
I'm going to go against the trend here and predict that Massa will actually take pole and the win

Lets hope you have right.

Hamilton has actually the opportunity to win 4 races in a row, as this track and the next suites McLaren better. But hope it wont be so  duck 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:12 pm

Not a real surprise, but Renault admit they were running light in practice.

http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=43535

Quote:
Pat Symonds admitted the team’s lap times were flattered by running less fuel than its rivals while doing qualifying simulations.

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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:21 pm



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 14):
Not a real surprise, but Renault admit they were running light in practice.

Did you actually think otherwise, such as Renault had found that much speed/balance?
Even the Force India cars would be able to put in stunning lap times if they wanted during practise.

Quali will be interesting tomorrow as this is so important on this track cause of the problems with overtaking.

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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:34 pm

Man this thread is dead...

Qualifying just finished and it was pretty good...

B747Forever, do you care to let us know what happened in Qualifying?

Oh thats right....McLaren 1-2....Hamilton and Heikki.

But in all fairness, Massa did post the quickest lap in qualifying.

Whats going on with Kimi though he seems to either be struggling, or it appears that he doesn't even care...It doesn't seem like he's driving with his usual...superb monotony.

Qualifying times

Pos Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps
1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:19.376 1:19.473 1:20.899 12
2. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:19.945 1:19.480 1:21.140 16
3. Massa Ferrari 1:19.578 1:19.068 1:21.191 16
4. Kubica BMW Sauber 1:20.053 1:19.776 1:21.281 19
5. Glock Toyota 1:19.980 1:19.246 1:21.326 24
6. Raikkonen Ferrari 1:20.006 1:19.546 1:21.516 19
7. Alonso Renault 1:20.229 1:19.816 1:21.698 15
8. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:20.073 1:20.046 1:21.732 18
9. Trulli Toyota 1:19.942 1:19.486 1:21.767 20
10. Piquet Renault 1:20.583 1:20.131 1:22.371 19
11. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:20.157 1:20.144 17
12. Button Honda 1:20.888 1:20.332 15
13. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:20.505 1:20.502 16
14. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:20.640 1:20.963 16
15. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:20.748 10
16. Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:21.045 7
17. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:21.085 9
18. Barrichello Honda 1:21.332 8
19. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:21.670 9
20. Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:22.113 10
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:24 pm



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 16):
Whats going on with Kimi though he seems to either be struggling, or it appears that he doesn't even care...It doesn't seem like he's driving with his usual...superb monotony.

He really doesn't drive like the champ he is lately. On the other hand, he have also said that he is happy doing what he's doing, but I wonder how genuine that actually is. He should be beating with room to spare, but Massa is just superior lately!
Is Kimi Heavy on fuel? Well, looking at last couple of races, I doubt it.
And if Ferrari is to have any chance at the title this season it's really time they start to move things around! The silver arrows looks like they go around the track on rails.

Glock might be light on fuel, but he is still in for a good race as he knows how difficult it will be for other to overtake him.

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 16):
B747Forever, do you care to let us know what happened in Qualifying?

Don't encourage him!

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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:40 pm



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 16):
But in all fairness, Massa did post the quickest lap in qualifying.

Times in Q2 are irrelevent.  wink 

Quoting Sudden (Reply 17):
He should be beating with room to spare, but Massa is just superior lately!
Is Kimi Heavy on fuel? Well, looking at last couple of races, I doubt it.

He's been below par for the last three races. I can't see him finishing on the podium if those in front have reliability.

A 1-2 for McLaren in the race would get them right back in the Constructors' championship.
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:42 pm



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 16):
Man this thread is dead...

For some reason the Ferrari and Raikkonen fans seem to have lost their voices.  scratchchin 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:14 pm



Quoting Sudden (Reply 17):
He should be beating with room to spare

Not true, I think that when both men are at their best, Kimi is basically dead even with Massa in qualifying, just more consistent on race pace. As for Kimi of late, he really does seem like he's lost his edge a bit. Then again, people were saying that about Schumacher in 2005 and then he came back in '06 and lit up the tracks, so obviously Kimi still has the performance in him, it might just be some sort of temporary mental block.

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 19):

For some reason the Ferrari and Raikkonen fans seem to have lost their voices. scratchchin

I'm as big a Ferrari fan as anyone, though I'm a MUCH bigger fan of Massa's than Kimi. I think the qualifying today proves that Ferrari are actually closer than they were in Hockenheim. Massa didn't get an optimal lap in Q3, I don't think he would have beaten Hammy but he could have knocked Kova off the front row, they were just a couple hundredths apart as it was. In Q2, though Massa had the fastest lap, I think Hamilton could have bested that time if he'd been running the hard tires, the softs just gave out too early today. In any case, there isn't more than a tenth or two between the cars at the moment and if they were on a track like Spa, I think the red cars would have the slight advantage. Considering the rest of the season has a fair number of quick tracks like Monza, Spa, and Brazil, I think it'll be a great fight right down to the wire between Massa and Hamilton.

Great job by Glock today, by the way! It's always interesting to see which one of the midfield teams will go above and beyond in any given race, and for a while I thought Glock had a real chance at the front row. Looks like Toyota really nailed the setup at this track, unlike BMW who only made it into the top 4 because Kubica is an unbelievable driver.
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:37 pm



Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 20):
Considering the rest of the season has a fair number of quick tracks like Monza, Spa, and Brazil, I think it'll be a great fight right down to the wire between Massa and Hamilton.

Then again, it might rain. And then again again, it might all depend on safety cars!  covereyes 
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:38 pm

Congrats to Timo Glock and Toyota for their excellent qualifying results. They have truely made remarkable progress compared to the meltdown last year with Ralf Schumacher.
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:14 pm



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 19):
For some reason the Ferrari and Raikkonen fans seem to have lost their voices

I fancy Kimi cause of his: Talk less and drive more philosophy, but I'm also realistic (in comparison to some other here) enough to see when things go the wrong way, without making up any excuses. As long as we have good races with fair fights on the track, I'm all game.

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 20):
people were saying that about Schumacher in 2005 and then he came back in '06 and lit up the tracks

How good Kimi might be, I don't think he will be as good as Schumi, and that's what I see as a bit of an issue here, as I don't think Kimi is that involved off track as Schumi was.
But what do I know really!

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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:18 pm

Personally I´m most fascinated by the Singapore F1 race, take the A380 there and watch the race, unbelievable.
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:37 pm



Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 20):
Massa didn't get an optimal lap in Q3, I don't think he would have beaten Hammy but he could have knocked Kova off the front row, they were just a couple hundredths apart as it was.

Ironically, P3 may actually play to his favour - the "dirty" side of the grid always seems to be particularly bad in Hungary.
I'll be surprised if HK keeps his P2 at the start..

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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:55 am

I really hope Kovalinen has a good race to match another great qualifying performance.

Quoting Alessandro (Reply 24):
Personally I´m most fascinated by the Singapore F1 race, take the A380 there and watch the race, unbelievable.

I'm currently looking into the possibility of going to Singapore for the GP. Perhaps we'll have to have a mini anet meet there!
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:56 am



Quoting Sudden (Reply 23):

How good Kimi might be, I don't think he will be as good as Schumi, and that's what I see as a bit of an issue here, as I don't think Kimi is that involved off track as Schumi was.

See I really think Kimi would have had it in him to be as good as Schumi...But to me...Schumacher was just too focused on F1 where as Kimi seems to have his mind elsewhere...Snowmobile Racing...Rallying...Moto Cross..god knows.

I can see only Hamilton really becoming Schumacher-esqe...Maybe Vettel too...although not as much...
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:20 am



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 27):
See I really think Kimi would have had it in him to be as good as Schumi...But to me...Schumacher was just too focused

I actually didn't think so from the start. In regards to his driving skills, yes. But the technical side, no.
Well, Kimi is driving for one of the top teams, and have no. 1 on his car, so lets not count him out just yet.
More then one he have shown that he can fight his way back up. Even with a hangover!  Wink

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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:55 am



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 16):
B747Forever, do you care to let us know what happened in Qualifying?

Dont worry, next race I will be here  Wink


Wow, Kimi has really lost his form this last few races or is it the car?? . If he continues like this, it will be over for him.
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:56 am

Anyone got a link to the itv feed for us outside the UK?
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:13 pm



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 30):
Anyone got a link to the itv feed for us outside the UK?

No...But I can give you an Update if you want...Seems like Massa took Hamilton in the first corner...Pretty fantastic move IMHO. Although He locked up his wheels and they did say that there's a lot of tire degradation on the hard front tires...BUT he's supposed to be on a Higher Fuel load, so we'll see What happens...
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:22 pm



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 31):
No...But I can give you an Update if you want...Seems like Massa took Hamilton in the first corner...Pretty fantastic move IMHO. Although He locked up his wheels and they did say that there's a lot of tire degradation on the hard front tires...BUT he's supposed to be on a Higher Fuel load, so we'll see What happens...

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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:00 pm

Massa´s start was the best of the year, and its rather surprising that he´s slowly, but constantly putting a gap between his Ferrari and Hamilton´s McMercedes. Kovalainen and Raikonnen both rather disappointing. Timo Glock excellent, I hope he can attack Kovalainen.

Oh, just now Lewis is in trouble. Flat tyre, his chance of a third win in a row 99% gone.
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:05 pm

Ouch....Flat tire for Lewis Hamilton...Good Control in getting it all the way around...But now he's gotta drive the rest of the race on the Option...which is going to be REALLY bad.....But hopefully he can salvage some points....GO Timo Glock!
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:16 pm

Someone can check if this links work, works for a New Zealand friend of mine;

http://www.soccer-live.pl/ITVF1/f1player.php

30 laps on softs for Lewis, no chance. He'll probably need another stop towards the end, which would mean no points. WIll be interesting to see if the tyre failure is driving style related or debris punctured. Great drive by Massa. Clean, fair overtake on Hamilton at the start. And Glock! 3rd place at the moment and looking good for a podium.
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:24 pm

Bill142,

I just got this link from a friend of mine...you'll need SopCast...

http://channelsurfing.net/

there are still 13 laps left...see if you can catch the end.

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 35):
30 laps on softs for Lewis, no chance. He'll probably need another stop towards the end, which would mean no points.

I wonder if they would make him stop.
I don't know...I think they might just say....Don't push....Salvage the points.
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:37 pm

Noooooooooo, Massa!!!!! I don't believe it. Mega harsh. On the positive side, Go Heikki! First win! Go Glock! First podium!!!
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:37 pm

Oh my gods!....MASSSA!....I honestly...I honestly feel bad for him...

3 laps to go Sad

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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:42 pm

Bitter sweet moment now that Massa is out. Massa had been running slower without Hamilton breathing down his back so odd engine failure. Probably the blazing heat which has also been causing flash fuel fires.

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 36):
I wonder if they would make him stop.
I don't know...I think they might just say....Don't push....Salvage the points.

Hamilton did a good job keeping 5th on the soft tyres which leads me to believe his tyre failure on hards was debris related. He seemed to last longer on the softs than hards.

Drivers of the day, Massa and Glock.
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:42 pm

Thats so sad. I´m heavily disappointed. Kovalainen a totally undeserved winner after a mediocre drive, sad his engine didn´t explode, too.
I´ve just switched off the TV.
Only good thing is that Timo glock came in second.
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:42 pm

OMG!
Massa .... unbelievable ....
Hamilton can consider himself very lucky today to still be first.
I'm very very pissed off  Sad
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:44 pm

Heikki Kovalainen WINS!!!!

CONGRATS TO HIM!......that's the 100th different driver to win a race I believe...

Terrible luck for Massa....Good to know that Hamilton Salvaged some Points, and with Massa Out, I think Hamilton Retains the Lead....

Brilliant Drive for Glock...Absolutely great!...Congrats to him for his Podium!

I don't think the Race Setup was correct on the McLaren today...

Ferrari had it down...And I really feel bad for Massa....but thats Racing.

[Edited 2008-08-03 06:45:45]
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:57 pm

What a race!
Finally Kova got to stand in the middle of the podium!

Bill142, I think I won as predicted Kimi 3rd! Very well done, and how about Glock!? That came from nowhere really. Still very nice as Toyota have just got stronger and stronger through the season.

Would Hammy been able to get close enough to Massa if he wouldn't have got that unfortunate flat tire? Massa looked stronger today, and we finally got to see Kimi show some champion driving from lap 15. Remember that he made a mistake behind Alonso, and still managed to beat him in the pits, and from there on he set fastest lap 2 times.

Hamilton and Massa were the real unlucky ones today though.

Thi8s championship is becoming a real thriller!

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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:05 pm

Well done Heikki , Timo & Kimi. Good recovery drive from Lewis you have feel sorry for Felipe Massa. Who said F1 is boring. Looking forward to the next race in three weeks time at Valencia in what appears to be great season.
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:23 pm



Quoting Legoguy (Reply 39):
Hamilton did a good job keeping 5th on the soft tyres which leads me to believe his tyre failure on hards was debris related.

ITV got word from McLaren that it was; though Bridgestone themselves were examining the tyre and said they would release info about 2 hours after the race.
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:23 pm

Utterly brilliant, dominant race from Massa, right until his car let him down. 3 laps from the end is just cruel, isn't it? Perfect start, he pulled a gap on Hamilton slowly but surely every time he needed to, and if neither driver had run into trouble he would have doubtless held him off and taken the win. Always frustrating when a great championship contender duel is thrown out the window because of bad luck, but that's part of the sport I suppose. I really, really fell bad for Felipe and I was devastated when I saw that shot of the car grinding to a halt, but hopefully this race pace will build Felipe's confidence and let him know that the Ferrari is indeed every bit a match for Mclaren, even on a track where everyone assumed the Mclaren would be far superior. Congrats to Heikki on a bit of a lucky win, I know a win is a win but a driver must prefer their first win to not come in these circumstances, much like Kubica in Montreal. Glock also drove exceptionally well, and Kimi once again hides all weekend until the very end of the race, it just baffles me that he manages to look so mediocre and then set a fastest lap right at the end. Why wasn't he doing that in the first stint?
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:36 pm



Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 45):
Why wasn't he doing that in the first stint?

On Speed they said that Kimi was actually running faster on the Soft Compound all weekend. Maybe If he'd have been on them instead of the hard Compound...he'd have done much better.
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:39 pm



Quoting Sudden (Reply 43):
Thi8s championship is becoming a real thriller!

If Massa would have won, yes. Sadly, this way, with atotally underved winner, the outcame was not helpful.
 
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RE: F1 2008, Budapest

Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:42 pm



Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 45):
Why wasn't he doing that in the first stint?

He could only follow Alonso without being able to pass him, so that's the reason.

Quoting NA (Reply 40):
Kovalainen a totally undeserved winner after a mediocre drive, sad his engine didn´t explode, too.

Go post that kind of crap elsewhere dude! This sport is also about being in the right place at the right time. I didn't see you post this sort of bull after the Canadian GP. Wonder why!

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