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Should The Wasp-knife Be Forbidden?

Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:55 pm

I learned today through an article in the "Der Spiegel" abut the existance of a new,deadly weapon called "Waspknife",which uses gas-injections to cool and expand any bodies it is stuck into.

http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,568594,00.html

Since it is not a handgun,the sale seems more difficult to control,but the effects are quite devastating.German police officials said, the sale would be prohibited in Germany.

http://www.waspknife.com

In Great Britain police is on alert ,since the current wave of knife-attacks has killed many young British and a potential use of this Gas-Knife would considerably increase the fatality rates.

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RE: Should The Wasp-knife Be Forbidden?

Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:16 pm

Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
Since it is not a handgun,the sale seems more difficult to control,but the effects are quite devastating.German police officials said, the sale would be prohibited in Germany.

In Germany it would be classified as a "Verbotener Gegenstand" (Forbidden Item) as per the Weapons act (Waffengesetz), similar to nun-chakus, brass knuckles, koshes, steel rods, spring actuated snap knives, gravity knives, butterfly knives (Balisong) etc., so that possession itself will be a crime punishable with prison.
Import and mabnufacture would be punishable as well.
The problem is that such weapons will still be reaching the streets, maybe not as cheaply.


I see that this wasp knife can cause really nasty wounds, compliceted by air embolia.

What I find courious is the advertisement, which praisesthe Wasp-Knife as a "self defense weapon against bears and sharks".
First, I think that all A.nutters, who live in bear country rather carry a large calibre handgun, a rifle or a shotgun loaded with buckshot or rifled slugs than such a knife. Wasp-Knife or not, I think the results of getting into a close encounter with a grizzly bear are rather onesided.
Concerning sharks, I have read decades ago about a similar system mounted to a harpoon, which uses a needle to inject CO2 into the fish. Another selfdefense weapon against big sharks is a yard-long stick, with a head containing a 12 gauge shotgun shell, which explodes if it is being pressed against a surface.
Again, these weapons leave the human a little bit of distance.

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RE: Should The Wasp-knife Be Forbidden?

Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:18 pm

Wow, I did not know such thing existed...  Wow!

Interesting that it is so simple yet in its own way innovative. As I understand this is used for self defence against large predators, it must be REALLY devastating against humans beings then.

I am not sure though if regular knife of that size itself would not cause enough damage to human body. The injection definitely improves deadliness but all in all would a potential stabber want its target to literally explode? "Cleaner solution" might be preferred, but that is just my blind guess.

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RE: Should The Wasp-knife Be Forbidden?

Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:49 pm

Also, I noted that the manufacturer aims the knife to be sold to the military.
First, I'm convinced that this weapon will be rated in a similar way as Dumdum bullets and be considered to be against the rules of war.
Secondly, I wouldn't want to be a soldier being captured wearing such a knife. In WW1 German engineering troops, who carried a bayonett which was intended to double asa wood saw and had a serrated back, were often executed on the spot by enraged allied soldiers, who could imagine the wounds this saw bayonett would make when it was pulled out.

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RE: Should The Wasp-knife Be Forbidden?

Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:43 pm

Although not against the justified ownership of knives or shotguns,this knife to me looks terribly "designed" to just produce a max.killing and destruction effect.
I honestly don't see the justification for this weapon ,since,as previously mentioned,targeting "Bear and Shark encounters" is absolute B.S.
Most of the experienced divers that do go on shark-encounters ,do it in a view to admire those beautiful animals-before they will be extinct ! ( many of the previously widely encountered shark-species have been extinguished )
And those who live in "bear-countries" or "bear-infested " areas,don't want to rely on a knife to defend themselves, but rather have a powerful rifle or handgun .So to me that looks as a cheap justification to market a killing tool-nothing else.
I do myself collect islamic- knives but rather in a collectors -motivation and would never ever use a knife against somebody.
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RE: Should The Wasp-knife Be Forbidden?

Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:56 pm



Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
has killed many young British and a potential use of this Gas-Knife would considerably increase the fatality rates.

I think at nearly $400 a go the market will not include casual knife wielding thugs.

Pretty nasty weapon though.
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RE: Should The Wasp-knife Be Forbidden?

Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:06 pm

I think the primary target group are middle-aged "Walther Mitty" types, who stuff their fattening body into tactical gear and admire themselves in their bedroom mirror, while desperately waiting for their home to be burglarized, so that theycan "show it" to the burglar.

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 4):
Most of the experienced divers that do go on shark-encounters ,do it in a view to admire those beautiful animals-before they will be extinct ! ( many of the previously widely encountered shark-species have been extinguished )

Sure, but as much as I admire sharks, I'd like to have a last line of defense with me in case the big white suddenly considers me to be his breakfast.
Similar to the way polar bears are treated on the island of Spitzbergen. They are a protected species and killing them, except in self defense is illegal, but nobody in his right mind would leave a town or village without bringing along a hunting rifle. Even tourists can loan a rifle in the local grocery shops.

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RE: Should The Wasp-knife Be Forbidden?

Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:43 pm

This is another case of alarm being raised over nothing. The media finds out about something and blows it all out of proportion. They publicize something that no one ever heard of and therefore cause the problem that they claim they are trying to avoid.

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